Balancing Rear Tires

[Miles_on]

I noticed the wheel weights on one of my front tires came loose a few weeks back (it was partly peeling off) so I had both front tires balanced na rin, even if it wasn't time for rotation. As I was chatting with the technician, he told me:

"Mabuti pa kayo ser, may mga iba diyan, pati yung rear tires pinapabalance din, di nila alam, nagsasayang lang sila ng pera. Unless may diperensya talaga yung gulong sa likod, bina-balance lang yan pag i-rorotate na sila sa harap"

It was not in their interest to make such claim- siyempre they'd want you to spend more money right? So I found it credible. But what he said intrigued me, so I asked around sa mga shops habang naglalakwatsa sa Banawe minsan and found that most of them are in agreement with what he said. It was a reputable shop whose name I won't mention here (baka akalain endorsment pa) but dealer sila ng well known na tire brand.

I've googled it and iba naman sinasabi (mostly foreign sources) na dapat all 4 tires should be balanced.

Tsikoteers, your thoughts on the matter and/or experiences? Please share.

[Wh1stl3r]

All 4 wheels should be balanced. The reason why you are balancing them is primarily to have them wear evenly, lessen vibration and to a lesser degree, give uniform handling. Some shops won't balance the rear tires for cars with solid axles coz you won't really feel the difference. But it can have an impact on the evenness of your rear tires as they wear down.

[oj88]

However well-intentioned, I think the technician is wrong. All tires should be balanced, regardless.

[bxr monkey]

4 dapat. Possible din maka-add sa bearing wear ang vibration.

Tapos kung rotation time na, ang likod pupunta din sa harap.

[dr. d]

i balance all my wheels.
magkano lang ba naman yon...?

[JohnM]

i balance all my wheels.
magkano lang ba naman yon...?

Wala pa atang 100 each depende sa tingga pero mabusisi. Baka isip ng technician not worth the effort. When I bought my used wheel and tire set I had them balanced before installing kahit na they just came off from the seller's car.

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[Miles_on]

i balance all my wheels.
magkano lang ba naman yon...?

Yes. Mura nga lang.

I decided to err on the side of caution din and had the rear tires balanced naman din the following day. Minimal corrections lang were needed. The machine readout when we spun them showed one was still ok while the other needed just 1 weight.

Napaisip lang ako sa sinabi nung technician and some owners of shops sa Banawe so I decided to raise the matter for discussion here. Yung 2 factors weighing in on my mind at the time were like this kasi:

a) Mura lang naman, so why not?
-- vs. ---
b) Ayos naman yung gulong, pantay ang wear, no vibrations, there's nothing wrong at all, why fiddle with it? Kaya lang napabalance yung front kasi lumuwag yung weight (nagkataon) otherwise I would've kept `em rolling that way till next rotation. (BTW, they've run less than 1400km since they were last balanced during the previous rotation.)

[crazy_boy]

All 4 wheels should be balanced. The reason why you are balancing them is primarily to have them wear evenly, lessen vibration and to a lesser degree, give uniform handling. Some shops won't balance the rear tires for cars with solid axles coz you won't really feel the difference. But it can have an impact on the evenness of your rear tires as they wear down.

Bro question. Bakit iba tingga ng steel rim and alloy wheels? Clip type sa steel rims and stick on sa alloy.


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[Wh1stl3r]

Bro question. Bakit iba tingga ng steel rim and alloy wheels? Clip type sa steel rims and stick on sa alloy.


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Bro, meron din naman clip on for alloy wheels, but kelangan yung wheel lip compatible para makabit sya. But optional yun for both. Pwedeng stick on din sa steel rims. IMHO as long as done properly, walang advantage yung clip ons. Minsan sumasabit pa nga yun at natatanggal when the car is used offroad. Mas malinis din tingnan yung tape weights kasi nasa likod lang ng wheel face.

[Miles_on]

Bro question. Bakit iba tingga ng steel rim and alloy wheels? Clip type sa steel rims and stick on sa alloy.

Bro, meron din naman clip on for alloy wheels, but kelangan yung wheel lip compatible para makabit sya. But optional yun for both. Pwedeng stick on din sa steel rims. IMHO as long as done properly, walang advantage yung clip ons. Minsan sumasabit pa nga yun at natatanggal when the car is used offroad. Mas malinis din tingnan yung tape weights kasi nasa likod lang ng wheel face.

One of mine has both types (clip on + stick on), fresh from the factory.
Even the spare, napansin ko may weights din.

Palagay ko pareho lang, although parang mas discreet lang yung clip on. Parehong pwedeng matanggal naman din. And magbabago rin yung balance as the tires wear (this is natural & expected) so when we rotate them, we check the balance and apply corrections kung kailangan.

[Wh1stl3r]

One of mine has both types (clip on + stick on), fresh from the factory.
Even the spare, napansin ko may weights din.

Palagay ko pareho lang, although parang mas discreet lang yung clip on. Parehong pwedeng matanggal naman din. And magbabago rin yung balance as the tires wear (this is natural & expected) so when we rotate them, we check the balance and apply corrections kung kailangan.

But in most cases you'll need to use tape ons for the other parts of the wheel anyway. And as I mentioned the clip ons can only be installed in wheels with a compatible lip like this one:



If your wheels don't have that ear on the lip like this one, tape weights are your only choice.



I'm sure people will have their own preferences whether to go clip on or tape but looking at the 2 pics above the tape ons are definitely more discreet as they are behind the wheel face. More so if you have wheels that are black, bronze or any color other than silver.

As for having weights fall off during use, when hitting a curb accidentally or offroading like this:



You can see how clip ons can be easily removed vs tape ons.

Haven't had a tape on removed pa naman in my 20+ years of motoring.

[dr. d]

one day, i just noticed,
there was this relatively clean gap in my mag's lip.
apparently, the old metal clip+tingga, had fallen off recently.

the taped-on weights inside the mag,
after some time,
i do not remember anymore, which tyre had what weights,
or if any had fallen off already.
"out of sight, out of mind."

[travajante]

I prefer RoadForce balancing all 4 always.

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[SidCoronel]

I noticed the wheel weights on one of my front tires came loose a few weeks back (it was partly peeling off) so I had both front tires balanced na rin, even if it wasn't time for rotation. As I was chatting with the technician, he told me:

"Mabuti pa kayo ser, may mga iba diyan, pati yung rear tires pinapabalance din, di nila alam, nagsasayang lang sila ng pera. Unless may diperensya talaga yung gulong sa likod, bina-balance lang yan pag i-rorotate na sila sa harap"

It was not in their interest to make such claim- siyempre they'd want you to spend more money right? So I found it credible. But what he said intrigued me, so I asked around sa mga shops habang naglalakwatsa sa Banawe minsan and found that most of them are in agreement with what he said. It was a reputable shop whose name I won't mention here (baka akalain endorsment pa) but dealer sila ng well known na tire brand.

I've googled it and iba naman sinasabi (mostly foreign sources) na dapat all 4 tires should be balanced.

Tsikoteers, your thoughts on the matter and/or experiences? Please share.

I've been in the transportation industry for over 20 years, with a minimum of 16 vehicles at a given time.

I always have all 4 tires balanced to avoid downtime, so when we rotate our tires (every 3mos, which we do ourselves to save P400 and exercise ) we don't have to go back to the shop for a wheel balancing.

Downtime is more expensive than the extra 2 tires if skipped.

[dr. d]

just a comment,

to some people, time is money.
many of us do not remember, or know how to, input that in our decision-making process.