ABS and Handbrake Lights Both On

[oj88]

Since sira na rin naman, why not gamble with around 1k to 2k worth of parts and road-side/Banawe labor?

The sensor assembly is press-fit behind the hub and serves as an end-cap. The sensor reads the tone ring as the hub turns.

Baka nga marumi lang sa loob due to rust getting in the way between the sensor and the tone ring and a simple cleaning would fix it.

Anyway, kung ok pa yung tone ring (not overly rusted out or missing teeth), validate the part no. of just the ABS sensor and maybe have just that part replaced. https://shopee.ph/ABS-Wheel-Speed-Se...15.23255485321

Procedure on how to replace the sensor... Start at 5:00.

[GTcervan]

I agree. Kung wheel speed o abs sensor lang yan, hindi kasama assembly, usually madaling makahanap niyan. Baka buong assembly kasi pag sa casa.

Yung sa kia samin dati aabutin sana ng 14k. Assemblies on both sides sa rear iirc. Buti nalang under warranty pa pero merong exact na wheel speed sensors lang sa shopee na kahit yun lang mismong papalitan, wala pa ata sa 2k ang one piece nun.

[dr. d]

I agree. Kung wheel speed o abs sensor lang yan, hindi kasama assembly, usually madaling makahanap niyan. Baka buong assembly kasi pag sa casa.

Yung sa kia samin dati aabutin sana ng 14k. Assemblies on both sides sa rear iirc. Buti nalang under warranty pa pero merong exact na wheel speed sensors lang sa shopee na kahit yun lang mismong papalitan, wala pa ata sa 2k ang one piece nun.

i also had the impression that casa replaces assemblies and not tingi-tingi.
highs.
i would probably chance going to the banawe folks.

years ago, wala pa abs. yet we were driving with a decent amount of safety. this in mind, taping over the warning light don't seem to be too... evil...

[Miles_on]

Its is practical from an economic POV. You could just put a black tape over the light or have someone remove the ABS light bulb/LED. Car is still perfectly usable even withe ABS not working. Hindi ka naman aggressive yata magpatakbo.

And this is why I avoid buying 2nd hand cars.

OT: Kaya disposable asset lang talaga ang kotse- bihira na nga gamitin, nasisira pa rin...

[oj88]

years ago, wala pa abs. yet we were driving with a decent amount of safety. this in mind, taping over the warning light don't seem to be too... evil...

Nowadays, it's only responsible to utilize whatever safety features available at your disposal. ~40-50 years ago, nobody wore seatbelts either, so...

And this is why I avoid buying 2nd hand cars.

OT: Kaya disposable asset lang talaga ang kotse- bihira na nga gamitin, nasisira pa rin...

Agree. Buying used cars are a gamble, especially if you don't know how it was taken cared of.

Cars become how you treat them... more than you know it. Those times you delayed the oil change, you rode through flooded streets, kept the tire pressure low, doing hard accelerations and decelerations, using the wrong or low-quality fuel... among a thousand other ways, will have long-term repercussions one way or another. The Butterfly Effect.

[bxr monkey]

Kaya suwerte kung ka kilala iyong owner ng 2nd hand.
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Mukhang marami naman parts kung mag Google ng "e140 corolla rear abs sensor"

[Motortrend]

Kaya suwerte kung ka kilala iyong owner ng 2nd hand.
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Mukhang marami naman parts kung mag Google ng "e140 corolla rear abs sensor"

Was just going to say the same thing. Looks like local online shops have them in stock and they're pretty cheap as can be expected of Toyota parts.

[LOLZ]

years ago, wala pa abs. yet we were driving with a decent amount of safety. this in mind, taping over the warning light don't seem to be too... evil...

Depending on what broke with the ABS system and/or how the system in the vehicle was designed it could be more dangerous to drive a faulty ABS-equipped vehicle than a vehicle with no ABS from the factory. I believe toyota moved the duties of the load sensing proportioning valve to the abs system so you could end up with a car that has a new tendency to lock up the rear brakes in a panic stop.

[_Cathy_]

Its is practical from an economic POV. You could just put a black tape over the light or have someone remove the ABS light bulb/LED. Car is still perfectly usable even withe ABS not working. Hindi ka naman aggressive yata magpatakbo.

Not sure why they want to replace the entire hub, when its just the sensor. If you lok at it the hub has teeth, the sensor then counts how many times a second passes it and from there gives you the car's speed (kaya nga connected siya sa speedometer). If it detects say a sudden negative change in speed e.g. 100kph then biglang naging zero kph (indicating a lockup of the brakes) it will send a signal to the ABS pumps to disengage/re-engage the brakes (simulating the old-school method of pumping the brake pedals). You'll just have to wait till you hear a hum when the wheel turns to know when its time to replace the hub.

Yup, I don't drive aggressively.

It's the reason why the owner of Speedyfix spoke with me kasi I told the staff na casa gave me an estimate for replacing the ABS sensor only. He said they don't do that and replace buo talaga. Then he said sometimes hindi pa guarantee and it could be the ABS na na problem and he said that will be VERY VERY expensive and told me he replaced one for an LC and it costs P150-160k so for my car it could be P80k, which is half the cost of my car na

[_Cathy_]

Some Tmodels have the sensor integral to the hub assembly.
Post'90s, nippons shifted from prioritizing reliability & ease of service to job-security.🫣

Pero nagtataka ako why casa gave a quote na pwede sensor lang. I told them naman that it's a 2010 corolla. I don't want it fixed there anymore since the labor is too high.

[_Cathy_]

Since sira na rin naman, why not gamble with around 1k to 2k worth of parts and road-side/Banawe labor?

The sensor assembly is press-fit behind the hub and serves as an end-cap. The sensor reads the tone ring as the hub turns.

Baka nga marumi lang sa loob due to rust getting in the way between the sensor and the tone ring and a simple cleaning would fix it.

Anyway, kung ok pa yung tone ring (not overly rusted out or missing teeth), validate the part no. of just the ABS sensor and maybe have just that part replaced. https://shopee.ph/ABS-Wheel-Speed-Se...15.23255485321


Procedure on how to replace the sensor... Start at 5:00.

Yung Wheel hub bearing rear left costs P22k sa speedyfix but when I called Toyorama it costs P12k. Mahal pa rin e. Na convince ako ng owner ng Speedyfix na not worth it na to have it fixed, then what Travajante said na wait for the Wheel hub na masira then replace.

If it costs less than P5k, I am willing to have it fixed now, pero with P10k plus I will wait na lang. This car is rarely used, maybe every 2 mos lang.

YOu mean cleaning can cost P1k or P2k sa Banawe? I could have that done. Na trauma lang ako sa banawe nagku kuyog yung mga tao dun and they one stole pa clips sa bumper ko, I noticed it and told them to return haha. Pero sa Toyorama maayos so I will just stay there

[_Cathy_]

I agree. Kung wheel speed o abs sensor lang yan, hindi kasama assembly, usually madaling makahanap niyan. Baka buong assembly kasi pag sa casa.

Yung sa kia samin dati aabutin sana ng 14k. Assemblies on both sides sa rear iirc. Buti nalang under warranty pa pero merong exact na wheel speed sensors lang sa shopee na kahit yun lang mismong papalitan, wala pa ata sa 2k ang one piece nun.

sobrang hirap tumawag sa Toyorama, walang sagot. Pero IIRC wala sila sensor lang na available.

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i also had the impression that casa replaces assemblies and not tingi-tingi.
highs.
i would probably chance going to the banawe folks.

years ago, wala pa abs. yet we were driving with a decent amount of safety. this in mind, taping over the warning light don't seem to be too... evil...

doc, nagulat nga si Speedyfix na casa replaces sensor lang. He asked din kung nakita na ba yung car.

[_Cathy_]

And this is why I avoid buying 2nd hand cars.

OT: Kaya disposable asset lang talaga ang kotse- bihira na nga gamitin, nasisira pa rin...

Nasaktan ako dun huh LOL.

Seriously, I will NEVER sell a car without disclosing issues. When I sold my AE101, pinagawa ko muna yung sira kasi if there's anything about my family, ayaw namin na "napupulaan" kami. It's white so kita naman nila na yung paint ang issue, that's something na hindi na ko willing iparepaint.

Re my 10th gen, casa maintained ang PMS. It has Michelin tires, amaron battery, puro mga wear and tear lang na replace. Issue niya yung melted dashboard and steering (considering na it is never parked sa sun) I have friends who know zero about cars think that it's new (no joke) even when it was 10+ yrs old. The dash melted 2020 or 2021 lang at hindi naman kita sa gabi. Odometer 51k kms only (and I have all PMS casa receipts on file)

I don't have plans of selling this since I want to retain a manual car, pero depende kasi na trigger OC side ko, I don't like the thought na may sira siya na di ko pinagawa

[_Cathy_]

Based on the following replies, I am hurt some of you think na hindi ako maalaga sa auto just because I am not having the sensor repaired. Assuming I do sell it, kitang kita naman nakailaw ang sensor. Also, sa mileage, paint and interior (except the melted dash) Kitang kita naman na sariwa auto ko. And like I mentioned, I buy the most that I can afford such as Michelin tires and Amaron battery. Dami nagsasabi sakin mag cheap tires pero never ko tinipid auto ko.

Also, kung hindi ako maalaga, Tue afternoon I saw the ABS light, the same day I contacted Casa na, Friday nasa Speedyfix na. I don't delay repairs. Re melted dashboard, si ULS na rin nagsabi sakin na aesthetic lang yun at pag binaba dash ko baka kung ano pa magalaw so hinayaan ko na and bought a cover na lang.

Plus wala ako work for 5 yrs so it's my Mom that pays for everything, hiya naman ako kasi bilhan pa niya ko this month 4 Michelin Tires and 4 OEM shocks for my 11th gen. Unahin ko muna yun. Malabo ako bilhan ng car since I am moving to the US. Pero kapag 10 talaga lumalabas na pala mga gastos no matter how low mileage or alaga sa auto (like the shocks paano nasira e ako lang naman nakasakay dyan 90% of the time) so it makes me wish I had a new car now so wala na sakit sa ulo :P

[_Cathy_]

Was just going to say the same thing. Looks like local online shops have them in stock and they're pretty cheap as can be expected of Toyota parts.

Now I am confused e sabi Speedyfix buo palit nyan. I will start calling other shops nga. Can anyone recommend where else I can bring my car?

[Motortrend]

Nasaktan ako dun huh LOL.

Seriously, I will NEVER sell a car without disclosing issues. When I sold my AE101, pinagawa ko muna yung sira kasi if there's anything about my family, ayaw namin na "napupulaan" kami. It's white so kita naman nila na yung paint ang issue, that's something na hindi na ko willing iparepaint.

Re my 10th gen, casa maintained ang PMS. It has Michelin tires, amaron battery, puro mga wear and tear lang na replace. Issue niya yung melted dashboard and steering (considering na it is never parked sa sun) I have friends who know zero about cars think that it's new (no joke) even when it was 10+ yrs old. The dash melted 2020 or 2021 lang at hindi naman kita sa gabi. Odometer 51k kms only (and I have all PMS casa receipts on file)

I don't have plans of selling this since I want to retain a manual car, pero depende kasi na trigger OC side ko, I don't like the thought na may sira siya na di ko pinagawa

Don't take it personally.

I think it was a general (and personal) statement that as between a brand new car and a second hand car, the brand new car will be more reliable all things being equal.

As bxr monkey said, it's good if you know the owner of the second hand car. In your case, I would have no issues buying your Corolla.

[_Cathy_]

Depending on what broke with the ABS system and/or how the system in the vehicle was designed it could be more dangerous to drive a faulty ABS-equipped vehicle than a vehicle with no ABS from the factory. I believe toyota moved the duties of the load sensing proportioning valve to the abs system so you could end up with a car that has a new tendency to lock up the rear brakes in a panic stop.

oh no buti city driving lang ako

[_Cathy_]

Don't take it personally.

I think it was a general (and personal) statement that as between a brand new car and a second hand car, the brand new car will be more reliable all things being equal.

As bxr monkey said, it's good if you know the owner of the second hand car. In your case, I would have no issues buying your Corolla.

Thank you I take pride kasi na inaalagaan ko talaga cars ko (got that from my Dad) Even little things such as maglakad ng malayo for a covered car park. I feel bad talaga about this ABS issue, it's a 15 yr old car with 51k mileage. Tapos just this year, casa refused to insure it na because of its age.

[GTcervan]

And this is why I avoid buying 2nd hand cars.

OT: Kaya disposable asset lang talaga ang kotse- bihira na nga gamitin, nasisira pa rin...

Yes. Minsan nasa age din naman kasi kung bakit nagkakaroon ng issue. Regardless of brand, kahit sabihin pang first owned na mint at super alaga pa yan o brand new but old stock (for example legit less than 1k mileage lang na 3-5 years old) yung sasakyan. Pero kung sa abs issue hindi naman dapat big deal eto, although honestly yun din ang akala ko dati. Yung repair o replacement cost nga lang pati sourcing ng mismong piyesa, well, that's another story like what's shown in this thread.

[bxr monkey]

Now I am confused e sabi Speedyfix buo palit nyan. I will start calling other shops nga. Can anyone recommend where else I can bring my car?

Panay QC nga lang.
Speedlab sa may Banawe.
Wizzard sa may T. Morato.

Kung time to replace:
Raize E MT
Vios 1.5 G MT
BRV S MT

Ayun naalala ko na, may nag recommend dati Exalta auto parts and service, sa may Banawe area din.

Tapos iyong dash, kung may improved replacement naman sa casa at covered ng recall, maganda pagawa na sa casa. Sanay naman sila mag baklas niyan, or at least may access sila sa shop manual procedure.