2022 BRZ

**Jiggs** · April 6th, 2021 04:11 PM

After seeing in pictures the twin .(BRZ & GR86) my taste and vote goes to the Blue car..mas oks dating ng front fascia.. Tsaka if will be based sa previous gen...mas maraming naging Ricey na 86 compared sa BRZ.... observation ko lang naman...

**Egan101** · April 6th, 2021 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Jiggs

After seeing in pictures the twin .(BRZ & GR86) my taste and vote goes to the Blue car..mas oks dating ng front fascia.. Tsaka if will be based sa previous gen...mas maraming naging Ricey na 86 compared sa BRZ.... observation ko lang naman...

The old GT86 and BRZ may share the same platform, engine, and tranny. However, the BRZ has a much stiffer suspension this making it better on the track. I guess Subaru will do the same for the new BRZ.

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**thearsenal1205** · April 6th, 2021 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Jiggs

After seeing in pictures the twin .(BRZ & GR86) my taste and vote goes to the Blue car..mas oks dating ng front fascia.. Tsaka if will be based sa previous gen...mas maraming naging Ricey na 86 compared sa BRZ.... observation ko lang naman...

Ito kasi silang dalawa..

Youthful - 86

matured or getting old - BRZ

**ice15** · April 8th, 2021 10:52 AM

**Jiggs** · April 8th, 2021 03:06 PM

Watching that video, just wondering what exactly ang contribution ng Toyota in development of the Car? Engine definitely Subaru and most probably underpinnings..Baka body Shell ang Toyota?

**Egan101** · April 8th, 2021 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Jiggs

Watching that video, just wondering what exactly ang contribution ng Toyota in development of the Car? Engine definitely Subaru and most probably underpinnings..Baka body Shell ang Toyota?

Yes, Toyota is mostly involved in the design of the frame and body. Engine and tranny is primarily Subaru. If the same approach as the previous generation, Toyota and Subaru may opt for different suspension tuning for their models.

Toyota also did the same with the new Supra when it partnered with BMW. The new Supra and new Z4 shares a lot in its platform.

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**Jiggs** · April 8th, 2021 03:40 PM

Nice info 👍

**Dr.Kamiya** · April 8th, 2021 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Yes, Toyota is mostly involved in the design of the frame and body. Engine and tranny is primarily Subaru. If the same approach as the previous generation, Toyota and Subaru may opt for different suspension tuning for their models.

Toyota also did the same with the new Supra when it partnered with BMW. The new Supra and new Z4 shares a lot in its platform.

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Is that why the Supra suffers from bump-steer while the Z4 seems to be ok?

**Egan101** · April 8th, 2021 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya

Is that why the Supra suffers from bump-steer while the Z4 seems to be ok?

No idea on the Toyota-BMW child. As for the previous gen BRZ and 86, the key difference is just the suspension setup. Subaru made the BRZ thus making it better on the track compared to the 86.

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**JohnM** · April 8th, 2021 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

No idea on the Toyota-BMW child. As for the previous gen BRZ and 86, the key difference is just the suspension setup. Subaru made the BRZ thus making it better on the track compared to the 86.

According to some articles I read BMW and Toyota met at the beginning of the project to discuss the base chassis, engine, and other components which they share between them. They then went their own separate ways with suspension setup without comparing notes. So even if the Supra has a rebadged i-Drive in the interior they still feel different.

I like the new 86 looks-wise. The Subie's face just looks busier.