2018 Subaru XV Non-casa PMS

[babkalakal]

My car is in Fusion R now and I feel stupid because they saw that the Zic 5W-30 I bought was for a diesel engine. I didn't realize that the 5W-30 is different for gasoline and diesel engines. I told them that I will just have to buy the correct Zic engine oil first and just have a nearer auto service shop change the oil for me, as that is easier than the other oil changes. Or can I do it myself?

Also, they told me that I already need the change the air filter but I can do that in my own time. The air filter costs P1800 from them. Is there a cheaper source locally for original Subaru air filters?

They also told me that the throttle body needs cleaning. It costs P1800 too and I had them go for it as it seems major. Do you agree?

Another thing they saw is that both big and small arm bushings have "malaking punit" already and they recommended to change them already. They said if I don't change them, I risk having the bushings fall down and will hear more "kalampag". Their quotes are:

Arm bushing big - 3200
Arm bushing small - 2100
Press out bushing - 1200
Labor - 1500

Is this arm bushing really major that I need to have the parts replaced ASAP? If yes, that's fine, but I was hoping to source better-priced original parts and just have Fusion R do the labor for me.

Also, they do not clean brake systems. They only clean brake pads. They seem to not know what "cleaning a brake system" is. I asked MI and they told that when they clean the brakes, they clean the whole system.

im am not sure if your subaru is picky with its oil. pero most of the time lalo na in the past sakop ng specs ng diesel oil ang requirements ng gasoline engine. nakasulat yan usually sa jug ng langis sa likod. however it is best nga to double check as with more modern cars they be sensitive to the type of oil with dpf, catalytic converters, and what not.

[babkalakal]

sa casa as i understand it "cleaning" is opening, inspecting the brakes, brake cleaner, liha or brush, adjust if necessary, brake squeal paste. brake fluid flushing is another seperate item altogether not included sa "cleaning". im not sure if cleaning the whole system as they said includes a brake flush.

[kevindd992002]

sa casa as i understand it "cleaning" is opening, inspecting the brakes, brake cleaner, liha or brush, adjust if necessary, brake squeal paste. brake fluid flushing is another seperate item altogether not included sa "cleaning". im not sure if cleaning the whole system as they said includes a brake flush.

Yeah. It's probably too advanced for Fusion R and is not a usual offered service from them.

[kevindd992002]

im am not sure if your subaru is picky with its oil. pero most of the time lalo na in the past sakop ng specs ng diesel oil ang requirements ng gasoline engine. nakasulat yan usually sa jug ng langis sa likod. however it is best nga to double check as with more modern cars they be sensitive to the type of oil with dpf, catalytic converters, and what not.

Yeah, I don't know if I want to risk that though. I have the option for a refund from the seller naman and then I'll just buy the correct one. More hassle nga lang but that's a lesson learned for me. Now I know that 5W-30 diesel is not the same as 5W-30 gasoline.

[babkalakal]

Yeah, I don't know if I want to risk that though. I have the option for a refund from the seller naman and then I'll just buy the correct one. More hassle nga lang but that's a lesson learned for me. Now I know that 5W-30 diesel is not the same as 5W-30 gasoline.

it happens bro. in that respect kasi yung jug ng diesel ng zic is too similar to the gasoline counterpart. same with shell na blue hx7. pareho yung lalagyan nakalagay lang in inconspicous letters diesel or gasoline. all too easy to miss the print.

[travajante]

Yeah, I don't know if I want to risk that though. I have the option for a refund from the seller naman and then I'll just buy the correct one. More hassle nga lang but that's a lesson learned for me. Now I know that 5W-30 diesel is not the same as 5W-30 gasoline.

You should've gotten the X9 d2(not d1). Acea C3 good for both petrol & diesel. Suitable for most current models...keeps your parts bin lean, too.[emoji4]

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[Egan101]

0w20 FS is the suggested viscosity for the FB20 engine. 5w30 FS is the alternative.

I would suggest Amsoil OE 0w20. You can get them at Lazada.


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[yapoy86]

Pero meron oil na ang tawag nila ay multi-use.. pwede for gas or diesel engine..

sa ZIC, may pang diesel at gas talaga..

if you will change brake fluid, use DOT 4, yan na ang latest at papalit sa DOT 3

medyo maaga yata bumigay bushing nyan.. have it checked muna ulit.. minsan those rubber bushing looks like may punit or biyak pero hindi pala..

[Wh1stl3r]

For Zic oils message crazy_boy, he will know much more about the oil lineup by Zic.

Re: diesel engine oils normally you can use them for gas engines as long as they also meet the required specs for your engine and has the same recommended viscosity. Diesel engine oils do have more detergent. Not sure if that will be an issue with Subie's boxer engines. Someone raised that question before in BITOG, just forgot what conclusion they arrived at. Diesel oils are called HDEO in the BITOG forum.

[kevindd992002]

it happens bro. in that respect kasi yung jug ng diesel ng zic is too similar to the gasoline counterpart. same with shell na blue hx7. pareho yung lalagyan nakalagay lang in inconspicous letters diesel or gasoline. all too easy to miss the print.

Exactly. I bought the 6L diesel jug last March 2021 and I didn't even notice until Fusion R mentioned it to me earlier.

0w20 FS is the suggested viscosity for the FB20 engine. 5w30 FS is the alternative.

I would suggest Amsoil OE 0w20. You can get them at Lazada.


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I don't have the manual with me now but when I was asking about this a few years ago, I remember 5W-30 being recommended to me and that is what I've been using eversince I got this car. IIRC, MI also uses Motul 5W-30 for their engine oil for the 2018 XV.

Pero meron oil na ang tawag nila ay multi-use.. pwede for gas or diesel engine..

sa ZIC, may pang diesel at gas talaga..

if you will change brake fluid, use DOT 4, yan na ang latest at papalit sa DOT 3

medyo maaga yata bumigay bushing nyan.. have it checked muna ulit.. minsan those rubber bushing looks like may punit or biyak pero hindi pala..

Yeah, I bought Prestone DOT4 for brake fluid pero di ko nagamit kanina since malinis pa daw yung brake fluid ng car ko. Tapos makapal pa daw yung mga brake pads, both front and rear.

As for the bushings, kanino ko siya ipapacheck? Sa casa or another service center? Probably 2211 Works? Kasi wala naman kalampag na naririnig e.

For Zic oils message crazy_boy, he will know much more about the oil lineup by Zic.

Re: diesel engine oils normally you can use them for gas engines as long as they also meet the required specs for your engine and has the same recommended viscosity. Diesel engine oils do have more detergent. Not sure if that will be an issue with Subie's boxer engines. Someone raised that question before in BITOG, just forgot what conclusion they arrived at. Diesel oils are called HDEO in the BITOG forum.

I will. Thanks.

[yapoy86]

sa brake fluid, not visually makikita yun quality.. hygroscopic kasi yan kaya nag absorb ng water.. since meron ka na din nabili, pwede naman yan drain and fill..

or pa bleed mo lang each brake..

yung sa bushing, pa check mo maige.. kung wala naman unnecessary movement yung arm or wala naman abnormal noise or wear sa gulong, ok pa yan bushing mo.. usually pag bumigay yan, ramdam mo yung ingay at malikot na handling..

sa mga new cars naman matibay na mga bushing. lalo na kung di naman masyado nadaan sa mga lubak lubak

[JohnM]

No idea if they do this. I am learning from your experiences hehe.

For 1500 they should have a tool that sucks out the fluid from each brake using an external compressor. This will be faster.

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[kevindd992002]

No idea if they do this. I am learning from your experiences hehe.

For 1500 they should have a tool that sucks out the fluid from each brake using an external compressor. This will be faster.

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Haha, I see. So I asked them about this and they told me that they "manually" bleed out the fluid through each caliper. So is that the traditional way of doing it? Is there anything wrong in doing it like this?

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[Egan101]

Haha, I see. So I asked them about this and they told me that they "manually" bleed out the fluid through each caliper. So is that the traditional way of doing it? Is there anything wrong in doing it like this?

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Wala naman siguro. That’s how I see shops do it. You just need to make sure there is no air within the brake lines.


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[JohnM]

Yep. Your car is still new. The 7-year-old brake fluid on the other car still looked clear when we manually flushed it a few months ago. Just make sure na di matuyuan ang reservoir while bleeding para di mapasukan ng hangin.

[yapoy86]

Haha, I see. So I asked them about this and they told me that they "manually" bleed out the fluid through each caliper. So is that the traditional way of doing it? Is there anything wrong in doing it like this?

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kung manual bleeding, parang mahal yan 1.5k.. for that price, i can buy the tool and do it myself.. hehe.

[kevindd992002]

Wala naman siguro. That’s how I see shops do it. You just need to make sure there is no air within the brake lines.


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Right. I also asked MI and they do it the same way. They don't have machines like brake flush machines or compressors. To check if the fluid needs changing or not, they check the fluid reservoir level and do visual check only. They don't use those pens to check for the fluid's moisture content.

Yep. Your car is still new. The 7-year-old brake fluid on the other car still looked clear when we manually flushed it a few months ago. Just make sure na di matuyuan ang reservoir while bleeding para di mapasukan ng hangin.

So no need to change brake fluid pa? Some people say kasi na every 3 years magandang magpalit ng fluid pero wala talagang fixed interval.

Which is the better way of checking though, visual check or using a brake fluid pen tester to know moisture content? Or does it even matter? If most shops here (including MI) is doing visual checks only, I wonder if the pen tester is really worth using.

I have a 1L Prestone DOT4 here. A quick Google search says that 3 x 12 oz. bottles of brake fluid would be enough to bleed out the system so I guess I'm good.

kung manual bleeding, parang mahal yan 1.5k.. for that price, i can buy the tool and do it myself.. hehe.

That's what I thought. Parang ang mahal. I'll have to check with 2211 Works to compare their prices. Medyo hindi rin ako comfortable on how Fusion R treats me/responds to my queries. Ang susungit nung mga babae, halatang walang pakialam sa mga customer conerns. Basta lang magawa yung pinapagawa, yun lang ang importante sa kanila.

[hardwang]

Right. I also asked MI and they do it the same way. They don't have machines like brake flush machines or compressors. To check if the fluid needs changing or not, they check the fluid reservoir level and do visual check only. They don't use those pens to check for the fluid's moisture content.



So no need to change brake fluid pa? Some people say kasi na every 3 years magandang magpalit ng fluid pero wala talagang fixed interval.

Which is the better way of checking though, visual check or using a brake fluid pen tester to know moisture content? Or does it even matter? If most shops here (including MI) is doing visual checks only, I wonder if the pen tester is really worth using.

I have a 1L Prestone DOT4 here. A quick Google search says that 3 x 12 oz. bottles of brake fluid would be enough to bleed out the system so I guess I'm good.



That's what I thought. Parang ang mahal. I'll have to check with 2211 Works to compare their prices. Medyo hindi rin ako comfortable on how Fusion R treats me/responds to my queries. Ang susungit nung mga babae, halatang walang pakialam sa mga customer conerns. Basta lang magawa yung pinapagawa, yun lang ang importante sa kanila.

Ayaw niyo i-DIY? Hehe. I did it in less than an hour on my 9 year old Subaru. Just needed a 10mm wrench, a 4mm clear aquarium hose and another person to press the brake pedal. Got out 500ml of dirty brake fluid.

[ice15]

kung manual bleeding, parang mahal yan 1.5k.. for that price, i can buy the tool and do it myself.. hehe.

IMO, 1.5K isn't bad. kailangan mo ilift konti yung car tapos (kung first time mo) hahanapin mo pa yung screw...
worst case magtatanggal ka pa ng gulong... plus the assistant na tatapak sa brakes.

Ingat lang baka hindi match yung fluid mo (those old enough will remember what happens if you mix National and Prestone )

[hardwang]

IMO, 1.5K isn't bad. kailangan mo ilift konti yung car tapos (kung first time mo) hahanapin mo pa yung screw...
worst case magtatanggal ka pa ng gulong... plus the assistant na tatapak sa brakes.

Ingat lang baka hindi match yung fluid mo (those old enough will remember what happens if you mix National and Prestone )

Kung XV, possible no need to lift the car since mataas naman ground clearance. Pwede na hindi magtanggal ng gulong but it may be more messy.

I removed the wheels on my Subaru because its more convenient for me. Ang dali lang naman mag tanggal at kabit ulit ng gulong.

Yung 1.5k i-date mo na lang yan hahaha