Strada PMS thread [continued]

**beni23** · February 16th, 2011 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by tormis

Mga Sirs, inquire lang po. totoo po ba na during PMS kailangan sa Casa mo kunin lahat like filters, engine oils, etc if under warranty ka pa?

Regards po kay Sir Sael.

Not true sir. Pwede kang magsource sa labas ng mga yan and labor lang sa casa. Just make sure na original parts ang bibilhin at ipapalit mo.

**tormis** · February 17th, 2011 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by beni23

Not true sir. Pwede kang magsource sa labas ng mga yan and labor lang sa casa. Just make sure na original parts ang bibilhin at ipapalit mo.

Sir Beni23 thanks sa reply..I'm availing our company carplan and getting a strada. hopefully madeliver na sya next week and i assume it was awarded to Union motors Balintawak(kila Sir Xave ba ito, kami ung kumukuha ng 1 strada at 1 montero with lots of add ons). anywayz..our motorpool have this advisory

Sir,

Engine oil with a particular SAE grade would come in different types: 1. mineral based, 2. Semi-synthetic, 3. Fully synthetic 4. Special blend. It comes with different lubrication characteristics and special additives, but all can be used based on recommended SAE grade. Our main consideration will be on cost. A fully synthetic engine oil with the same SAE grade will cost 3x that of a mineral based engine oil. Casa and other repair shop would normally recommend to use a fully synthetic engine oil because they are a profit center, normally they would charge a profit margin of 30% of the base price of spare parts. The higher the base price, the higher the profit. A car owner should always have a clear instruction on what type of engine oil he should prefer to use. There is no specification indicated on the label of a Fully synthetic engine oil that says “double engine oil life”.

FYi. Thanks…

Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: Advise Note

Hi , for clarification only though I don’t have a carplan yet.

In using a fully synthetic engine oil even with the same SAE grade and viscosity as recommended by the manual will void the warranty? As I understand, using a full synthetic oil is cheaper considering that you can have another change oil after your 10,000km but you should also have your PMS every 5,000km.

Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:18 PM
Subject: Advise Note

Engineering and Maintenance Department

ADVISE NOTE

To : All Car Plan Grantee
Date : February 4, 2011

INCIDENT:

1. Using a Fully Synthetic Engine Oil on change oil and following a 10,000 km Preventive Maintenance Schedule

RECOMMENDATION:

1. All is advised to use OEM recommended Engine Oil on your change oil and follow the recommended Preventive Maintenance schedule of every 5,000 km during the warranty coverage period on your vehicle. Usage of fully synthetic engine oil will be allowed after the warranty coverage period provided that the cost in excess of the OEM recommended Engine Oil will be shouldered by the employee. Failure to comply with this advised note will be a ground for denying a repair subsidy claim.

**Arvin Cristi** · February 17th, 2011 09:51 AM

tormis, i hate to say this but there are a lot of things in your company circular that i greatly disagree with, but then again it is your company's SOP so that's what you have to live with.

if i was to start preaching about oils and the maintenance regimen, hahaba lang lalo yung usapan and magiging paulit ulit lang dito.

my advice to you, stick to what is allocated within your company memos, sagot namn nila yan pag may nagloko diba?

**Spoileddux** · February 17th, 2011 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by beni23

Not true sir. Pwede kang magsource sa labas ng mga yan and labor lang sa casa. Just make sure na original parts ang bibilhin at ipapalit mo.

Tama!

**tormis** · February 17th, 2011 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Arvin Cristi

tormis, i hate to say this but there are a lot of things in your company circular that i greatly disagree with, but then again it is your company's SOP so that's what you have to live with.

if i was to start preaching about oils and the maintenance regimen, hahaba lang lalo yung usapan and magiging paulit ulit lang dito.

my advice to you, stick to what is allocated within your company memos, sagot namn nila yan pag may nagloko diba?

Hi Sir Arvin thanks for the reply, actually 50/50 sharing po on PMS. that is why I'm soliciting thoughts from the group as i've read a lot of discussion that doesn't conform with our company car plan policies. I want to rock the boat po ika nga

. kaya lang i dont have the expertise and knowledge on the topic. I been back reading your discussion since last year :headache:and learn so much that when we are discussing with my peers as if I know a lot of things. hehehe.

regards to BOSBs

**Arvin Cristi** · February 17th, 2011 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by tormis

Hi Sir Arvin thanks for the reply, actually 50/50 sharing po on PMS. that is why I'm soliciting thoughts from the group as i've read a lot of discussion that doesn't conform with our company car plan policies. I want to rock the boat po ika nga

. kaya lang i dont have the expertise and knowledge on the topic. I been back reading your discussion since last year :headache:and learn so much that when we are discussing with my peers as if I know a lot of things. hehehe.

regards to BOSBs

parekoy, yan kasi ang mahirap kung may kahati sa pms cost or totally someone else paying for it.... you have to abide to with what they really think is right and proper kahit minsan or madalas misled naman yung mga alam nila. it's a eall pain in the ass believe me... but there's really nothing much you can do about it...

yung issues regarding oils is a discussion and argument as old as oil itself, everyone has there own opinion regarding the subject and most are misled/misdirected, with some people even objecting to the statements of the body regulating oil and lubricants which in this case is the API and also the ISO...

just always remember that each vehicle manufacturer has their own spec requirements for their engines, just follow the requirements. most often than not, some manufacturer specs greatly exceed the others.. case in point is that japanese oem specs are way below par to european and american vehicle specs when it comes to lubricants, that is why you would usually see on lubricant labels these things : meets/exceeds.conforms to .............bmw/porche/MB/cat/mack/volvo/GM etc.... followed by a certain number....

i usually live with the mack and MB conformity when it comes to oils... just a personal preference though

**tormis** · February 17th, 2011 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Arvin Cristi

parekoy, yan kasi ang mahirap kung may kahati sa pms cost or totally someone else paying for it.... you have to abide to with what they really think is right and proper kahit minsan or madalas misled naman yung mga alam nila. it's a eall pain in the ass believe me... but there's really nothing much you can do about it...

yung issues regarding oils is a discussion and argument as old as oil itself, everyone has there own opinion regarding the subject and most are misled/misdirected, with some people even objecting to the statements of the body regulating oil and lubricants which in this case is the API and also the ISO...

just always remember that each vehicle manufacturer has their own spec requirements for their engines, just follow the requirements. most often than not, some manufacturer specs greatly exceed the others.. case in point is that japanese oem specs are way below par to european and american vehicle specs when it comes to lubricants, that is why you would usually see on lubricant labels these things : meets/exceeds.conforms to .............bmw/porche/MB/cat/mack/volvo/GM etc.... followed by a certain number....

i usually live with the mack and MB conformity when it comes to oils... just a personal preference though

Point well taken Sir Arvin..salamat ng marami sa payo. sana maging member ako ng TSCP.

pagnadeliver na strada ko, post ko dito pics
regards to all BOSB and TSCP members.

**marlowem** · February 18th, 2011 01:43 AM

Napalitan na 'yung SCV ko, wuhoo!

Will post details on the weekend

**alainroyce** · February 18th, 2011 12:18 PM

Thank you very much kay sir Kimospeed.

.. Napalitan yung yung Clutch Disc ko for free sa Citimotors Alabang with 57+++ mileage.. Pati sa Manager nila na si Mr. Aguirre and specially the great technician nila si Anton..

I bring my strada their almost out of warranty na, because it was the last day na of the warranty.. I look for the Service Manager and talk to Mr. Aguirre he immediately called Anton for the Verification... Then he called MMPC if they can replace the parts for free... whalla it free!

They will clean my intake manifold, because it was already clog daw..

**av8or5** · February 18th, 2011 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by alainroyce

Thank you very much kay sir Kimospeed.

.. Napalitan yung yung Clutch Disc ko for free sa Citimotors Alabang with 57+++ mileage.. Pati sa Manager nila na si Mr. Aguirre and specially the great technician nila si Anton..

I bring my strada their almost out of warranty na, because it was the last day na of the warranty.. I look for the Service Manager and talk to Mr. Aguirre he immediately called Anton for the Verification... Then he called MMPC if they can replace the parts for free... whalla it free!

They will clean my intake manifold, because it was already clog daw..

wow..mas naging okay ang Strada ni Kuya Ed. congrats!