Strada PMS thread [continued]

[krinkx]

about to have my 10k PMS and i was thinking of using oil from shell... hx7 diesel or hx7 or hx5...

kung hx7 diesel, ano ang change oil interval? kung hx7? kung hx5?

i am currently using turbo xp... ok lang bang bumalik ng mineral tapos 5k interval?

thanks...

[dBoss]

Tama bro, padouble check mo na lang sa casa kase baka meron silang hindi naibalik ng maayos nung ginawa yan dati.

Sa case ko pards naka Fully Sythethic ako but Petron gave me a Trekker 15w40. I will use it when my truck reached 15K. It is w/in the specs of our Mits Manual kaya I am not worried. If my FC will be similar to 13.80 to 14KM/liter, I will stick to my trusted Trekker; mura kasi ito and available lagi. Trekker 15W 40, multi-grade is a pure mineral oil according to my Friend (Technical Services) who is working for Petron - this is equivalent to an equivalent to a semi-synthethic. I will change my oil every 5k if I were to use the Trekker for a long period of time..

[borloloy14]

[SIZE=2]Dear Ate Charo...[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]
[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Sana 'wag na tumaas ang presyo ng diesel at luminis na sana ito para hindi na muling masira ang SCV ko. Ano po ba 'yung "Car care kit" at kailangan ba talaga ang "Varsol"? Ano po ba ang magandang alternatibo sa Motul CRDI, "kasing bisa pero hindi kasing mahal"? At bakit may oil "corkage" sa ibang casa?[/SIZE]


[SIZE=2]Gumagalang... Nagmamahal kaysa nagmumura... takatak boy [/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]1,000KMS[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Union Paco[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Labor 407[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Cleaning Materials 150[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Oil filter 1,042.72[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]H-tech 100 Plus 7lit 3,920[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Engine flush 552[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Rags 6.12[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Total 5,670.84[/SIZE]


[SIZE=2]5,000KMS[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Diamond Qave[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Turbo XP 560[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Gas Diesel Treatment 259.99[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Oil filter 1,042.72[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Varsol 95.54[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Car care kit 280[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Rags 11.99[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Total 2,250.25[/SIZE]


[SIZE=2]10,000KMS[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Diamond Qave[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Labor 2,562[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Turbo XP 8lit 4,572.88[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Oil filter 1,042.72[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Engine flush 320.49[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Gas Diesel Treatment 259.99[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Varsol 95.55[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Car care kit 280[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Rags 12[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Sand paper 20[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Camber adjustment 1,200[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Total 10, 365.65[/SIZE]


[SIZE=2]15,000KMS[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Citimotors Alabang[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Labor 1,310.40[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Turbo XP 560[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Oil filter 1,042.72[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Rags 9[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Distilled water 25[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Sandpaper 7.50[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Total 2,954.62[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]20,000KMS[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Diamond Qave[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Labor 3,297[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Engine flush 320.49[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Gas Diesel Treatment 259.99[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Fuel Filter 2,526.72[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Air Filter 2,079.84[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Oil Filter 1,042.72[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Varsol 95.55[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Car Care Kit 280[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Sandpaper 20[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Rags 23.99[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Wheel weights 8.96[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Parts discount - 847.39[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Casa total 9,107.91[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Autoplus[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Motul CRDI 8lit 4,180[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Total 13,287.91[/SIZE]


[SIZE=2]25,000KMS[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Citimotors Alabang[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Labor 1,310.40[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Oil filter 1,042.72[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Car care kit 253.64[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Rags 9[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Sandpaper 7.50[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Surcharge oil (corkage) 56[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Complete wash 850[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Casa Total 3,529.26[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]TrueValue[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Motul CRDI 749.75[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Total 4,279.01[/SIZE]


[SIZE=2]30,000KMS[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Citimotors Alabang[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Labor 1,747.20[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Oil filter 1,042.72[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Brake cleaner 275[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Car care kit 253.64[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Rags 9[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Delta Gear Oil GL-4 985[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Distilled water 25[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Sandpaper 7.50[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Surcharge oil (corkage) 448[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Complete wash 850[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Casa total 5,683.38[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Autoplus[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Motul CRDI 8lit [/SIZE]4,230
[SIZE=2]Total 9,913.38

Gusto mo mapalitan SCV mo? Sa Citimotors Alabang, hanapin si Anton at sabihing TSCP member [/SIZE]

sir ask ko lang po kung 56php lang yung corkage sa citimotors alabang? kasi im nearing my 15k pms e sa citimotors alabang din ako nagpapagawa... i already have fully synthetic oil ng shell... or nag vavary din yung charge nila ng corkage? salamat sa reply mga sir!!

[Ry_Tower]

about to have my 10k PMS and i was thinking of using oil from shell... hx7 diesel or hx7 or hx5...

kung hx7 diesel, ano ang change oil interval? kung hx7? kung hx5?

i am currently using turbo xp... ok lang bang bumalik ng mineral tapos 5k interval?

thanks...

Puwede naman bumalik sa mineral but I believe much better kung Shell HX7 na lang. Change interval depends on how you use your car and the condition of the place where you drive. Better search the Oil bypass filtration thread na lang to give you better understanding.

[bigtrak]

back to casa ulit ang strada ko for warranty check re:multiple lagutok sound sa pang ilalim, like i've said planning to change wheels and tires, kaya rushing to fix the lagutok sound. baka gawin pang dahilan for warranty claims.

this time sa citomotors laspinas ko pinaka check, iniwan ko nalang kasi tinatamad ang SA dun, pwede na sana ma check ng hapon, pinag pabukas pa. tip lang - wag kayo dun nakaka badtrip lang. mga tamad ang SA at walang kwentang kausap.

recommended ko Alabang, very accomodating and really trying to fix the problem.

[Spoileddux]

back to casa ulit ang strada ko for warranty check re:multiple lagutok sound sa pang ilalim, like i've said planning to change wheels and tires, kaya rushing to fix the lagutok sound. baka gawin pang dahilan for warranty claims.

this time sa citomotors laspinas ko pinaka check, iniwan ko nalang kasi tinatamad ang SA dun, pwede na sana ma check ng hapon, pinag pabukas pa. tip lang - wag kayo dun nakaka badtrip lang. mga tamad ang SA at walang kwentang kausap.

recommended ko Alabang, very accomodating and really trying to fix the problem.

Bro, ganon talaga dun lalo na pag wala ka kakilala. Sa citimotors-alabang okey don kahit hindi pa ko nagpapservice dun kase dami na ko good feedback na nakukuha coming from that casa, sa citimotors-makati kase ako nagpapacasa kase nandon ang mga tropa ko. If you need help text ka lang bro.

[vhronx]

Guys/Gals,

We have been talking about changing oil on a per kilometer basis depending on the type of oil (mineral, semi-synthetic or fully synthetic).

Mineral/Semi-synthetic - every 5,000k change
Fully synthetic - every 10,000k change

If you don't travel that much (City Driving only and not that often long travel), what is the best time to change in terms of months?

Mineral/Semi-synthetic - not more than ?? months even less than 5000 kms
Fully synthetic - not more than ?? months even less than 10,000 kms

Need your expert advise.

[borloloy14]

just went to citimotors las pinas and asked if pwede mag dala ng sariling oil for my 15k pms.. sabi nila pwede pero may 10% surcharge daw sa oil na supposedly galing sa kanila then sabi niya na since strada e synthetic oil daw ang ginagamit dito, so 10% ng 8L ng turboXP daw babayad ko which is 448php haaaay buhay.... so mangyayare is 448+oil ko na mabibili sa labas sobrang mapapamahal na ko

[ThePatriarch]

just went to citimotors las pinas and asked if pwede mag dala ng sariling oil for my 15k pms.. sabi nila pwede pero may 10% surcharge daw sa oil na supposedly galing sa kanila then sabi niya na since strada e synthetic oil daw ang ginagamit dito, so 10% ng 8L ng turboXP daw babayad ko which is 448php haaaay buhay.... so mangyayare is 448+oil ko na mabibili sa labas sobrang mapapamahal na ko

sa diamond motors wala naman corkage fee kung magdala ng sariling oil...

[vhronx]

Is it legal to ask for "surcharge or corkage" for bringing your own oil? Can we complain to DTI?

[Arvin Cristi]

parekoy, medyo issue yung monthly basis of change oil... kasi hindi mo pwede ijustify masyado yung time frame as compared to actuall driven distances. yung monthly basis kasi panay assumptions lang and what if figures, it is still best to use your traveled distance as a gauge for maintenance, regardless if you travel long distances or short... mas madalas lang ang change oil pag lagi ka naka gala and longer interval pag short distances diba, pero there is no issue if you still have the same oil in your engine after a year kung hindi mo pa inaabot yung reccomended distance traveled

[Arvin Cristi]

i don't think there is anything we can do about it, kasi mga bar at resto nag corkage ng alak diba? girly bars nga kung may kasama ka na babae mayrun din yung iba!! hehehehehehe

[ThePatriarch]

i don't think there is anything we can do about it, kasi mga bar at resto nag corkage ng alak diba? girly bars nga kung may kasama ka na babae mayrun din yung iba!! hehehehehehe

eh bakit dun sa bar na pinupuntahan natin walang corkage? hehehe

[ThePatriarch]

Is it legal to ask for "surcharge or corkage" for bringing your own oil? Can we complain to DTI?

legal yan sir... that is their internal policy which is allowed sa businesses. if you dont like it, we can always go elsewhere who offers a much better deal

[vhronx]

i don't think there is anything we can do about it, kasi mga bar at resto nag corkage ng alak diba? girly bars nga kung may kasama ka na babae mayrun din yung iba!! hehehehehehe

Ok lang sa girly bar may corkage, may naka kandong na man sa atin! hehhehe...
Kung ganoon din sa Casa, mga dala na lang ako palagi nang aking oil................

[vhronx]

legal yan sir... that is their internal policy which is allowed sa businesses. if you dont like it, we can always go elsewhere who offers a much better deal

We have to live with it. Ok sa inyo may choices, dito sa Davao mag-isang Mitsubishi dealer. Patay na kami if mag pa bayad na pag nag dala nang oil......

[vhronx]

parekoy, medyo issue yung monthly basis of change oil... kasi hindi mo pwede ijustify masyado yung time frame as compared to actuall driven distances. yung monthly basis kasi panay assumptions lang and what if figures, it is still best to use your traveled distance as a gauge for maintenance, regardless if you travel long distances or short... mas madalas lang ang change oil pag lagi ka naka gala and longer interval pag short distances diba, pero there is no issue if you still have the same oil in your engine after a year kung hindi mo pa inaabot yung reccomended distance traveled

Sir Arvin, thank you for the clarification. I have a better understanding. I am now looking at using synthetic oil.

[DonT]

1,000 kms (April 2008)
Oil Filter = 1467.18
Mineral Oil 9li = 1,211.58
Including VAT = 3,000 Total Cost
5,000 kms (2008)
10,000 kms (May 2009) Regular Checkup
Labor P1300
Brake Cleaner P227.68
Engine Flush P223.21
Motor Oil (SAE-G) (164.29x9Li) P1,478
Oil Filter P800
Silencer Kit (320.54x2) P641.08 (free)
Rear Leafspring Repair P642.86 (free)
Foam Wash P64.29
total P 4,585.05 (including VAT)
15,000 kms (Nov 2009) Light Checkup
Labor - 975.89
Foam Wash - 89.29
Oil Filter - 800.0
Motor Oil - 1,478.61 (9x164.29)
Engine Flush - 267.86
Windshield Cleaner - 125.0
Total 3736.65
Vat 448.4
Total amount Due 4,185.05
20,000 kms (March 2010) Heavy Checkup
Labor - 1,950.0
Motor Oil - 1,719.63 (9 x 191.07)
Oil Filter - 800.0
Engine Flush - 223.21
Brake Cleaner - 227.68
Grease Fitting - 30.0 (2x15)
Air Cleaner - 1,857.14
Fuel Filter - 2,256.25
Coolant - 1,071.45 (5x214.29)
Gear Oil - 774.12 (3x258.04)
Foam Wash - 89.29
Total 10,998.77
Vat 1,319.85
Total Due - 12,318.62
25,000 kms (June 2010) Light Checkup
Labor - 1,300.0
Complete Wash (Engine & under) - 727.68
Motor Oil - 1,719.63 (9 x 191.07)
Oil Filter - 800.0
Brake Cleaner - 227.68
Engine Flush - 267.86
Total 5,042.85
Vat 605.14
Total Due 5,647.99
30,000 kms Regular Checkup

35,000 kms Light Checkup
Labor & Motor Oil - 2,500.0
Oil Filter - 800.0
Total - 3,300.00
40,000 kms (May 2011) Heavy Checkup
Labor - 2,424.11
Motor Oil - 1,719.63 (9 x 191.07)
Oil Filter - 800.0
Engine Flush - 267.86
Universal Cleaner - 230
Grease Fitting - 30.0 (2x15)
Air Cleaner - 1,857.14
Fuel Filter - 2,256.25
Coolant - 1,071.45 (5x214.29)
Gear Oil - 258.04 (6x258.04)
ATF - 2,485.00 (5x497.00)
Windshield Cleaner - 75.89
Misc Supplies - 357.00
Engine Detailing - 669.64
Total 15,762.21
Vat 1,891.47
Total Due - 17,653.68
Discounted Due - 16,600.00 Pesos
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Maintenance Costs are starting to get expensive.
Anyway, would like to share the following:
On my 35K, I sent my truck for A/C cleaning, however, i noticed that the A/C coolnes was not up to what I think it should be...especially during the past few months (summer). I got it check today and was suprised that they told me that their computer registered errors. I again asked them, 'your computer'? Nakakabit din ba A/C sa computer system. Well sabi nila..yung mga 4M41 daw or GLS Sport with climate control...yun daw meron. Long story short, just by resetting the computer, my truck is now cool like before.
Something I learned today. Maybe something to consider in the future if you experience A/C problems.

[Spoileddux]

Mga sirs, ask ko lang po kung anong maganda gamitin sa mga oils na 'to. Ano din po yung difference nila when it comes to performance of our truck. Regarding sa pms, ano po ba maganda na gamitin sa 10k pms. Lastly, yung HX7 5w-40 po ba is for diesel or gasoline engine use. Thank you.


Shell HX5 15w-40



Shell Diesel Plus 10w-40



Shell HX7 5w-40

[DonT]

Based sa net..ok daw for both Petrol and Diesel ang Shell HX7.
With regards sa performance. I doubt if anybody can really measure or quantify the effect which can be attributable to the engine oil.

There are so many variables which come into play when we use our trucks. Nandyan yung ambient temperature, Passengers or Load, Wind Drag & Direction, Quality of Fuel, etc.

These oils may not be the best, but definitely they are more than good enough.