UAAP Season 76

[chrismarte]

nagfile din ba ng TRO si Pinggoy?

[manilamako]

^ i'm not sure about the lack of homegrown talents you're referring to but there are 7 ateneo high grads who are in this season's line-up - that's almost half of the team. if you count those who are in the farm team (team glory be), i think you'll scratch your head w/ the number of ballers coming from the ahs. that's even amazing considering ateneo isn't even recruiting as actively or as aggressively as the other institutions in the grade school and high school ranks.

Before Ravena who can you say was a product of AHS na star player quality? I'm trying to think of someone pero yun last team composed of crucial AHS products yun kila Wesley, Enrico, Fonacier, Bugia, Tadeo, Cruz, Escalona (ata). Yun sumunod na star players all came from elsewhere, correct me if I'm wrong. LA, Intal, Arao, Tiu, Rabeh, Salamat, Salva, Slaughter, etc.. Jai was my batchmate since prep and he was always the best player sa year namin but sa seniors played second fiddle to recruited players. Barracoso and Bacon mga naalala kong great HS talents na di pareho nilaro sa Seniors pero props to Bacon, from center naging guard.

Good scouting talaga kelangan ngayon to be contenders can't rely on homegrown talent. La Salle talaga ang magaling maghanap ng players for me ever since. Si MVP naman dahilan bat gumanda recruitment program ng Ateneo. Anyway, it's been a good decade for the Eagles. I was still a 'youngling' nun dark days pa so I'm thankful nagbinata ako sa glory days ng Ateneo basketball.

[baludoy]

Before Ravena who can you say was a product of AHS na star player quality?I'm trying to think of someone pero yun last team composed of crucial AHS products yun kila Wesley, Enrico, Fonacier, Bugia, Tadeo, Cruz, Escalona (ata).

i guess it would have to be the guys who comprised the back-to-back championship team of the 80's - olsen racela, jun reyes, jayvee gayoso, and the man who could've been the next mon fernandez: the legendary danny francisco

Good scouting talaga kelangan ngayon to be contenders can't rely on homegrown talent.

you're spot-on here. the ahs boys were all sheltered country club choir boys in the dark ages and mvp saw this. so imo, the best move he did to the ateneo basketball program was to recruit coach joe lipa to specifically put in place a system that would create a basketball powerhouse in loyola heights, and that meant recruiting in the college level while solidifying and honing the young and fresh talents that were already in the grade school and high school campuses. a fact, which hasn't escaped other schools resulting in the exodus of former ateneo grade school talents to elementary schools w/c dangled athletic scholarships in the last year or two.

La Salle talaga ang magaling maghanap ng players for me ever since

for recruiting par excellence, for me it would have to be feu . they have an excellent scouting network all over the country w/c see or have seen the potential of superb players like arwind santos, rr garcia, terrence romeo, mark bello, mark isip, andy barroca, jeff chan (who was actually already w/ ateneo's team b when he suddenly decided to fly the coop and play in morayta instead), denok miranda, riehl cervantes, paul sanga, aldrech ramos, etc. kung saan-saang lupalop ng bansa natin nakita iyong mga iyan at gumawa ng impact sa collegiate basketball scene

[Altis6453]

Looks like the 2 year residency rule of UAAP is going pffftttt!: UP swimmer secures TRO against UAAP residency rule | Inquirer Sports

For sure, the other affected UAAP schools are going to follow suit. Or the UAAP itself will change its rules

Quite frankly, the residency rule for HS student athletes going on collegiate is S-T-U-P-I-D.

Students are NOT commodities or trade chips. Besides, their parents pay tuition and other fees, so, by what right can schools implement this?

[vinj]

Quite frankly, the residency rule for HS student athletes going on collegiate is S-T-U-P-I-D.

Students are NOT commodities or trade chips. Besides, their parents pay tuition and other fees, so, by what right can schools implement this?

Why not ask a certain Mr. Montinola about that.

Hope they overturn that "Pinggoy Rule".

Ateneo usually has a core team from the juniors program and they back it up with a few outside blue chips. These AHS players are usually not your superstars but they make a solid core. The problem of Ateneo this year is that there is a gap in getting their blue chips online (i.e. Jerie Pinggoy) and at the same time, they lost Salva, Slaughter and Chua (while the other teams have gotten much sturdier). I personally think if they still had Chua on the lineup this year, the rankings would have been much more different.

[Ry_Tower]

Diba AdMU has a very strict education qualification for its athletes kaya hindi din puwede talaga basta-basta makakapasok isang HS talent if bagsak sa entrance exam? Ganun dati eh afaik, suspended ka pa nga sa games if hindi mo name-meet an acceptable GPA.

[CVT]

nag re-react na yunmga friends ko from UP regarding sa sinabi ni Bo kanina sa UKG: "ang inasal ko eh hindi asal ng Atenista kungdi asal ng taga UP"

Paktay,- he is digging himself deeper (in his hole)....


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[baludoy]

^^ standard iyan. this year alone there were at least 2 players who were excluded in the uaap basketball team due to academic deficiencies.

and mas masakit iyong nangyari sa football team. apat na vital players ang natanggal sa last season's championship team dahil nga sa acads. sa ladies volleyball team ganun din ang nangyari

btw, pinalitan na ba ngayon ? it's qpi and not gpa for ateneo di ba?

[Altis6453]

Why not ask a certain Mr. Montinola about that.

Hope they overturn that "Pinggoy Rule".

Ateneo usually has a core team from the juniors program and they back it up with a few outside blue chips. These AHS players are usually not your superstars but they make a solid core. The problem of Ateneo this year is that there is a gap in getting their blue chips online (i.e. Jerie Pinggoy) and at the same time, they lost Salva, Slaughter and Chua (while the other teams have gotten much sturdier). I personally think if they still had Chua on the lineup this year, the rankings would have been much more different.

Hayz, si Mr. Montinola ba me pakana?

Meantime, I'm reproducing a snipped portion of a yahoo article which summarized the arguments raised by the UAAP member schools named in the complaint by the UST swimmer:

The UAAP and Bartolome's previous school the University of Sto. Tomas were both named defendants in the case. In defense of their imposition of the two-year rule, the league argued that:

1. Playing in the UAAP is not a matter of right but a mere privilege;
2. the two-year-residency rule is not arbitrary, oppressive, high-handed and/or whimsical;
3. the two-year residency rule does not violate the Constitution nor existing laws; does not prohibit, restrict or curtail the right or freedom of choice of [Bartolome]; and
4. Petitioner (Bartolome) has no actual, existing and unmistakable right to be entitled to a TRO.

UST, meanwhile, argued the following points:

1. The plaintiff has no clear and unmistakable legal right to restrain defendant UAAP from further applying the two-year residency rule;
2. The plaintiff failed to show that she will suffer grave irreparable damage or injury if the TRO is not issued;
3. It is the defendants who stand to suffer grave and irreparable damage if the application for the issuance of TRO is granted; and
4. The High Court has no jurisdiction over the person of UST.

To which I say the rule:

1. Is oppressive because it is tantamount to making the student prolong his/her stay with the school if only to comply with the two-year rule, making it more expensive and onerous for the student and his/her family.

2. Is capricious and whimsical because the school does not stand to suffer any financial damage from a situation where the student athlete will transfer to another UAAP member school coming out of high school.

3. It does not afford protection to the student athlete if and when the school unilaterally decides not to accept the student athlete for enrolment once he/she stops playing in his/her sport due to reasons not attributable to him/her.

4. It DOES CURTAIL THE FREEDOM of the student athlete to chose which school to represent in any organized athletic event since what the UAAP member schools want to protect is THEIR RANKINGS in the sports where they compete.

Take that, UAAP.

[greenlyt]

Paktay,- he is digging himself deeper (in his hole)....


20.8K:loveshower:

topic din kanina sa 89.9

[Ry_Tower]

^^ standard iyan. this year alone there were at least 2 players who were excluded in the uaap basketball team due to academic deficiencies.

and mas masakit iyong nangyari sa football team. apat na vital players ang natanggal sa last season's championship team dahil nga sa acads. sa ladies volleyball team ganun din ang nangyari

btw, pinalitan na ba ngayon ? it's qpi and not gpa for ateneo di ba?

hehe, naguluhan ako, gpa kasi sa isang school ko, qpi nga pala sa admu. Then if that's the case na mahigpit pa din sa acads, admu will never have the same recruitment clout as sa FEU or UST. Sabi nga nang wife ko, mga FEU players eh hindi na halos pumapasok.

[vinj]

Hayz, si Mr. Montinola ba me pakana?

Meantime, I'm reproducing a snipped portion of a yahoo article which summarized the arguments raised by the UAAP member schools named in the complaint by the UST swimmer:



To which I say the rule:

1. Is oppressive because it is tantamount to making the student prolong his/her stay with the school if only to comply with the two-year rule, making it more expensive and onerous for the student and his/her family.

2. Is capricious and whimsical because the school does not stand to suffer any financial damage from a situation where the student athlete will transfer to another UAAP member school coming out of high school.

3. It does not afford protection to the student athlete if and when the school unilaterally decides not to accept the student athlete for enrolment once he/she stops playing in his/her sport due to reasons not attributable to him/her.

4. It DOES CURTAIL THE FREEDOM of the student athlete to chose which school to represent in any organized athletic event since what the UAAP member schools want to protect is THEIR RANKINGS in the sports where they compete.

Take that, UAAP.

Mahina (lame?) ang arguments ng schools on the rule. The fact that an athlete cannot choose his preferred college (fresh out of high school) is bordering on oppression. It's pretty much self serving when a school refuses to release a student. Ateneo got hurt big time when BJ Manalo decided to jump ship to DLSU in the late 90s, but what did they do? They took it as a sign that the sports program needed to be shaped up big time and that they did.

High court has no jurisdiction over UST? Si God lang daw sinusunod nila? What are they smoking over there? That's the same kind of arguments that get my UST friends (incl. Doc Otep) hitting the roof from time to time.

Kawawa nga si Jeron Teng. Nasapawan ni Bo Perasol at JJ Atayde yung game-winning shot niya.

[111prez]

Diba AdMU has a very strict education qualification for its athletes kaya hindi din puwede talaga basta-basta makakapasok isang HS talent if bagsak sa entrance exam? Ganun dati eh afaik, suspended ka pa nga sa games if hindi mo name-meet an acceptable GPA.

Tama ito. My niece is presently with the Ateneo women's badminton team

Pero you don't need to top the ACET. You just have to pass it.

[111prez]

.... High court has no jurisdiction over UST? Si God lang daw sinusunod nila? What are they smoking over there? That's the same kind of arguments that get my UST friends (incl. Doc Otep) hitting the roof from time to time....

Nasobrahan sa Mompo?

[Altis6453]

In the news:

1. UAAP suspends Ateneo's Bo Perasol for his outburst during the ADMU-DLSU game

2. JJ Atayde, the heckler who was involved in the fracas with Bo Perasol is banned from future UAAP games

3. Charles Mammie's suspension reduced by one game

[gearspeed]

In the news:

1. UAAP suspends Ateneo's Bo Perasol for his outburst during the ADMU-DLSU game

2. JJ Atayde, the heckler who was involved in the fracas with Bo Perasol is banned from future UAAP games

3. Charles Mammie's suspension reduced by one game

Ilang game yung kay Bo?

[vinj]

Coach Bo Perasol will sit out the Ateneo - UE game (Sunday?). Well, looks like Coach Sandy will have to take the lead.

[Altis6453]

Ilang game yung kay Bo?

Just one game.

[chrismarte]

hehe, naguluhan ako, gpa kasi sa isang school ko, qpi nga pala sa admu. Then if that's the case na mahigpit pa din sa acads, admu will never have the same recruitment clout as sa FEU or UST. Sabi nga nang wife ko, mga FEU players eh hindi na halos pumapasok.

50/50 dati naging kaklase ko pa si Nicdao at Bacani sa isang klase kasi nag cross enrol ako sa institute nila, isang beses ko lang sila nakita at sa gym ko na sila laging nakikita dun pa sila nagppractive sa FEU fym sa Lepanto. Sa taekwondo naman si Veronica Domingo aabsent lang sya pag may competition na sasalihan tapos yung chess araw araw kasi kablocmate ko yung isa.

Re: recruitment parang speciallty nang FEU ang Track and Field. Marami daw talaga ang nagttryout. Sa basketball maganda mga recruit nila lalo na nung panahon ni Coach Danny Gavieres.

[Altis6453]

^ So, all of this (re: restriction on school transfer) is to recoup the costs of Montinola's recruiting efforts?

Boo! :thumbdown: