PNRI: 15 vinegar brands made from cancer-causing synthetic acetic acid

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24 Oras: PNRI: 15 vinegar brands made from cancer-causing synthetic acetic acid



Published on May 10, 2019
Fifteen out of 17 brands of vinegar sold in major supermarkets in the Philippines are made from cancer-causing synthetic acetic acid, a year-long study by the Philippine Nuclear Research Institute (PNRI) has indicated.

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So ano dapat bilhin = Basahin if fermented from cane sugar or coconut. Two of the most common in the philippines.

[dr. d]

24 Oras: PNRI: 15 vinegar brands made from cancer-causing synthetic acetic acid



Published on May 10, 2019
Fifteen out of 17 brands of vinegar sold in major supermarkets in the Philippines are made from cancer-causing synthetic acetic acid, a year-long study by the Philippine Nuclear Research Institute (PNRI) has indicated.

i wish they had emphasized on what's in the item, that makes it un-healthy.

[sparc179]

i wish they had emphasized on what's in the item, that makes it un-healthy.

Isn't it the synthetic acetic acid part Doc?

Because it's artificially made and inorganic, perhaps?

[dr. d]

Isn't it the synthetic acetic acid part Doc?

Because it's artificially made and inorganic, perhaps?

CH3COOH is CH3COOH, however it was made.

if the final product comes with admixtures of other, potentially harmful, chemicals, the researchers should have said so, and identified these. after all, they had the high-tech machinery...
instead, the guy just mentions it somewhat, in one brief statement.
the entire report comes on, to me, as a smear campaign.

i find the usfda item in the other thread, more useful.
in it, the agency simply said that "vinegar" is vinegar, because it was made in such and such manner, and that diluted acetic acid is not vinegar, because it was not made in such and such manner.

[sparc179]

CH3COOH is CH3COOH, however it was made.

if the final product comes with admixtures of other, potentially harmful, chemicals, the researchers should have said so, and identified these. after all, they had the high-tech machinery...
instead, the guy just mentions it somewhat, in one brief statement.
the entire report comes on, to me, as a smear campaign.

i find the usfda item in the other thread, more useful.
in it, the agency simply said that "vinegar" is vinegar, because it was made in such and such manner, and that diluted acetic acid is not vinegar, because it was not made in such and such manner.

Incomplete and inaccurate reporting from a media organization, what's new, right?

Anything to sensationalize the topic so they get more viewers, more clicks, more advertising revenue.

I see your point though Doc, it would help if they specified what chemicals they found harmful.

I thought that because it was artificially made using synthetics, which are often harmful in themselves AFAIK.

[dr. d]

Incomplete and inaccurate reporting from a media organization, what's new, right?

Anything to sensationalize the topic so they get more viewers, more clicks, more advertising revenue.

I see your point though Doc, it would help if they specified what chemicals they found harmful.

I thought that because it was artificially made using synthetics, which are often harmful in themselves AFAIK.

yespo.
we need science writers who know how to separate the chaff from the grain.

[uls]

ano ba yan bagong concern na naman

kahit anong ingat mo, kahit ano iwas mo sa mga bagay na nakakacancer, you're still not getting out of this life alive

kung hindi ka patayin ng cancer may ibang bagay papatay sayo

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patay ka datu puti

yari ka silver swan

Kaya nga dati ko pa sinasabi wala ako tiwala sa Department of Health ng pinas dahil MUKHANG KWARTA. Wala sa isip kung ano ikakabuti.

Masyado na napagiwanan ang DOH. Eh sa asin na lang ang hirap bumili ng natural rock salt. Over iodized na pinoy kaya nagkandaleche-leche hormones. Look gaano kahaba pila sa mga endocrinologist. So iodization of salt hindi nakakatulong yan. Bring it back sa pure goodness of salt

[dr. d]

patay ka datu puti

yari ka silver swan

Kaya nga dati ko pa sinasabi wala ako tiwala sa Department of Health ng pinas dahil MUKHANG KWARTA. Wala sa isip kung ano ikakabuti.

Masyado na napagiwanan ang DOH. Eh sa asin na lang ang hirap bumili ng natural rock salt. Over iodized na pinoy kaya nagkandaleche-leche hormones. Look gaano kahaba pila sa mga endocrinologist. So iodization of salt hindi nakakatulong yan. Bring it back sa pure goodness of salt

talaga! sinabi nilang hindi natural vinegar ang datu puti and silver swan?

kags, sa palengke, maraming natural salt na hindi artificially iodized.

[heavenlee]

talaga! sinabi nilang hindi natural vinegar ang datu puti and silver swan?

kags, sa palengke, maraming natural salt na hindi artificially iodized.

They didn't mention any brand at all, though the should have mentioned the offending brands, imo. Now everyone is suspect.

[Jiggs]

Agree that guy should have explained it clearer, parang ang pagkakaintindi ko dahil sa Synthetic and from its manufacturing there will be some impurities left and that impurities ang makakapag cause ng cancer and not the synthetic acetic acid itself....Kase it is approved naman for human consumption ang mga food grade synthetic materials..i.e. mga vitamins supplements look at their label mostly synthetic derived.....

So synthetic products ba tlaga masama or was it the impurities that comes with it? Sa end of the report parang sabi me synthetic materials daw....ano ba tlaga?

[uls]

there's a zeitgeist going on that anything not natural is bad

that anything man-made / synthetic is bad

there's a lot of quackery and pseudoscience out there

madami mga wellness advocates with little knowledge of science unfortunately have many followers and are quite influential... they're spreading false medical info and health myths

[kagalingan]

Dok,

my post below, year 2019. Im just being consistent sa walang kwenta DOH FDA.

again saan ba grumadweyt namumuno jan.

patay ka datu puti

yari ka silver swan

Kaya nga dati ko pa sinasabi wala ako tiwala sa Department of Health ng pinas dahil MUKHANG KWARTA. Wala sa isip kung ano ikakabuti.

Masyado na napagiwanan ang DOH. Eh sa asin na lang ang hirap bumili ng natural rock salt. Over iodized na pinoy kaya nagkandaleche-leche hormones. Look gaano kahaba pila sa mga endocrinologist. So iodization of salt hindi nakakatulong yan. Bring it back sa pure goodness of salt

[dr. d]

Dok,

my post below, year 2019. Im just being consistent sa walang kwenta DOH FDA.

again saan ba grumadweyt namumuno jan.

... and your concerns are still as baseless today as they were, back then.

[tarzegetakizerd]

medyo amusing yung thread na to haha

if people are already reacting this way about some synthetic acetic acid, how'd they manage if they knew what other chemicals are being used in the manufacture of their everyday food?

[Yatta]

Having experience with media, I am quite sure the reporter and the reseracher had a much longer interview. Unfortunately, due to the need to compress it, only the more sensational bits were left. A few weeks ago teh news said PHIVOLCS warned a M8 earthquake was coming in Surigao. What the news didn't explain was that the agency has always been monitoring the are because the trench facing it was capable of generating an earthquake that severe.

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[chronicle]

Did they already named the vinegar brands? They are doing a disservice to the people by being a coward

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[kagalingan]

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hindi na tinuloy ni PNRI yung higher ups na nagsalita kumambyo na.

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Ang problema kasi ito mga artificial products, bakit nagdidisguise as natural kung kaya nila i-angas na safe ang product?

And sa panlasa na lang ang layo eh.

Im not saying na hindi ok artificail. May tinatake ako amino acid na synthetic.

[chronicle]

^
hindi na tinuloy ni PNRI yung higher ups na nagsalita kumambyo na.

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Ang problema kasi ito mga artificial products, bakit nagdidisguise as natural kung kaya nila i-angas na safe ang product?

And sa panlasa na lang ang layo eh.

Im not saying na hindi ok artificail. May tinatake ako amino acid na synthetic.

This is what i hate about the media here.
Sa ibang bansa, pinangalanan na yan as a warning to all. Dito takot or ang mindset is negative publicity is still publicity. What's the sense of reporting it they are not going to provide full details.

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[misseksaherada]

medyo nalalabuan din ako sa news.. Sana medyo specific sila.. Like gaano kadami ba ang pag intake ng suka na pwedeng mag result sa cancer..

Kasi sa bahay hindi naman lagi ginagamit ang suka.. at kung ipanluto naman sya konti lang din naman ilalagay.. kung gagawing sawsawan.. Sawsaw lang hindi naman lagok..

(e.g. sa seminar about HIV.. sabi ng health workers 1 litrong laway daw ang kelangan bago ka mahawa ng HIV.. salamat sa QC na every year required ang Occupational Permit [emoji24][emoji31])

Sana naman yung news hindi yung maka create lang ng panic.. Mag spread naman sana sila ng information na reliable and complete.. *sigh*

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