Tied up to the Gym thread... Supplements

[van_wilder]

sabi nun iba... effective daw pero wala naman side-effects basta tama intake... wala pa naman akong na-encounter na namatay... pero sa news ang dami eh...

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para sa inyo ano mas-effective? whey or amino acids? kasi parang ang baba ng protein content ng amino eh tapos yun mga iba isang tablet lang pero lumalaki, parang placebo lang...

[Karding]

Ayan, si M54 and ssaloon eh nag take ng ephedra wala namang palang side effect na nakakamatay. Dapat siguro take lang for a while then kapag na meet mo na weight mo, strict diet na lang and exercise.

theveed:

Actually kaya ako ng whey kse $0.30 lang per serving. Compared sa Turkey sandwich $4.00 per serving mas magastos. Kaya nag whey na lang ako saka kailangan ko naman talaga. Kulang pa ang diet ko ng mga prutas. Busy lang ako masyado ngayon saka may ibang gagastusan kaya yan lang ang nasa diet ko. Kapag tapos na yung gastusin ko, dagdag ako ng meal.

van_wilder, amino acids whould be taken in conjunction with whey protein or any other protein supplements.

According to my readings:

The ultimate value of a food protein or a protein supplement is in its amino acid composition. Amino acids are the building blocks of protein, and muscle tissue. Many physiological processes relating to bodybuilding from energy, recovery, muscle hypertrophy, fat loss, and strength gains are linked to amino acids.

Building Blocks of Protein

Amino Acids and BCAAs Articles

eto, kakaibang brand ng Amino
Amino Acid

[Karding]

Nga pala, I almost bought the PH (ProHormone) supplement. The most potent next to steroids, talagang dramatic ang gains lalo na sa ectomorph. Saka mura lang, 60 caps is $9.89 lang. Isang cap lang per serving pre-workout. I can tolerate all the side-effects but not the erectile dysfunction while on it, which is 2 months. okay lang walang *** kung pwedeng mag sariling sikap, eh kahit sariling sikap maiinis lang ang kamay ko eh :hihihi:

[GlennSter]

vanwilder: gfrancisco*gmail.com

salamat!

[empy]

Originally posted by Karding
Nga pala, I almost bought the PH (ProHormone) supplement. The most potent next to steroids, talagang dramatic ang gains lalo na sa ectomorph. Saka mura lang, 60 caps is $9.89 lang. Isang cap lang per serving pre-workout. I can tolerate all the side-effects but not the erectile dysfunction while on it, which is 2 months.

yikes!! wag na lang...kahit lahat na ng muscles ko lumambot, wag lang yun!! :bwahaha:

[theveed]

VW: News will always show negatives hehe...

Ano mas effective, whey or AA? Ako whey... AA are building blocks, without the actual protein intake itself, it does nothing, I've been taking AA religiously before and didn't see much muscle gain, but stack that with protein (di pa nga uso whey nun hehe, i use egg protein by cybergenics) mas may effect... I'm sure it'll even be better with the new whey formulations, but most whey powders contain quite a bit of AA's already.

[van_wilder]

so whey na lang...

glennster na email ko na...

karding: mukhang mahirap itake yan PH ah! parang hindi ko kaya... tama si M54... lumambot na ang lahat ng pwedeng lumambot... wag lang yun... hindi ko yun kaya... nakakatakot din baka matuluyan eh...

[theveed]

Karding: Ika nga sabi ng mga "hard core" sites... No supplement is close to being as potent as an anabolic. If it claims to be, then it IS an anabolic hehe...

Ako whenever I read the warnings, side effects and possible danger (na di controllable) from anabolics, natatakot ako hehe, I have no clue how roid rage kicks in, and that's one thing I dont want my baby or my wife to have to go through...

[scarab]

....been there done that and it maxed out my credit cards.

....a good cheap alternative to protein drinks is enervon HP. tastes good but you gotta double the serving to get the adequate protein. only drawback is that i think it contains high amount of sugar.

...miss those gym days.

[van_wilder]

i use enervon hp... but if you compute yun per serving, masmura pa rin ang OPTIMUM NUTRITION 100% WHEY PROTEIN kasi superior type of protein, fast-absorbing...

ON - P1300 yun 31 servings of 28.4g w/ 23g protein = P42 per serving of 23g
ENRVON - P400 yun 25 servings of 40g w/ 9.9g of protein = P38 per serving of 23g

pero hindi whey yun ENERVON HP...

[jolog1]

Kung gipit kayo, boiled eggs na lang. Make sure nga lang huwag kainin yung yolk.

O kaya isang lata ng tuna. Mas masarap ang tuna dito kesa sa tate kasi mas maraming variety. May tuna adobo, tuna paksiw, tuna afritada, tuna asado. Isang latang tuna, isang bowl ng rice, atsaka isang serving ng gulay. Good meal na yan, mura at nakakabusog pa. Portable din kasi kahit saan sann meron ka mahahanap na kanin.

Pero when it comes to convenience, Whey ang pinaka ok.

[notEworthy27]

hindi ba oily yung mga yun? pano yun?

[ssaloon]

ok ang enervon prime pero mataas din ang fat/sugar content niya eh.

dati iniinom ko sustagen premium eh, pero nakakalaki ng tiyan.

[van_wilder]

sustagen nakakalaki talaga ng tiyan... akala ko dati pwede yun substitute for whey... hindi pala, dahil kakailanganin mo ng xena pagkatapos... lalakit tiyan mo...

[kennster]

Hmmm ok ah, dami din pala bodybuilders dito sa tsikot.. nice infos regarding supplements.. Btw, PM'ed you van_wilder, hope you can give us "friendly prices"..

[kennster]

from http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/wheytop.html

Optimum 100% Whey Protein - 10 lbs $55.59
155 servings per container (1 scoop per serving)

Mega Mass 4000 - 9.85 lbs $31.69
only 10 servings per container (coz it's 3 scoops per serving)

MuscleTech Nitro-Tech - 4 lbs $54.94
64 servings per container (1 scoop per serving)

Next Designer Protein - 5 lbs $28.99
95 servings per container (1 scoop per serving)

Prolab N-Large II - 10 lbs $37.95
30 servings per container (4 scoops per serving)

..what brand is the best and most effective? (based on experience)

..will it be cheaper in Cash and Carry or are the prices above plus shipping charge still be cheaper?

..also for the brands that require more than 1 scoop per serving, do I really have to follow that or can I just take 1 scoop per serving to increase the # of servings? Thanks!

[van_wilder]

hi kennster! ako rin si sp!t_k!cker... dehins mo naman sinabi na from tsikot.com ka eh... sa january ka kumuha... or pagdating ng new shipment para mababa...

dont follow yun 1scoop per serving ng pro-lab, masstech, and N-large II... masyadong concentrated yun... the rest follow mo...

[van_wilder]

forgot to tell you, optimum 10lbs lang ang baba ang presyo sa january ah... the rest ganun pa rin...

[kennster]

^^ thanks dude, hmmm cge Optimum whey na lang ako, un lagi ndidinig ko eh.. Mukhang MegaSugar lang pala yung MegaMass. hehehe. Cge kuha ako sa January ng Optimum 10 lbs. pero kuha din ako ngayon ng smaller size for nov-dec consumption ko. Discount naman sa 5 lbs dude.

[van_wilder]

2750 yun eh... 2600 lowest ko mabigay...