Tied up to the Gym thread... Supplements

[Karding]

Diet:

I dont have one and I eat everything, but my protein drink intake is 4 times a day. 23grams per serving.

Supplements: (I started taking these supplements Oct. 18, 2004)

AST Whey Isolate (4 servings throughout the day)
AST Multivitamins (1 cap each morning and bedtime)
ON 2222 Amino Acids (2 cap pre and 2 caps post-workout)
AST Micronize Creatine (still on my loading phase, will maintain 10grams after loading)

Workout: (I started my Max-OT routine Oct. 18, 2004)

Five times a week for 30mins on MAX-OT split program.

Supplements and new routine should have an effect by January 20, 2005. If not, then I'll be really pissed!

[Karding]

I've taken measurements of my body parts as well.

Anyway, here's to show you my physique which hit the plateau after 14months. Kaya nagiba ako ng routine and nag supplements na din.


Summer 2003:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ess/wings2.jpg

Oct. 2004:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...s/wideback.jpg

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[Karding]

Summer 2003:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ness/bis2x.jpg

October 2004:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7.../doublebis.jpg

One thing I've noticed on Summer 2003 pic. I dont have the bone (top of my spine) showing on the October 2004 pic.

A couple of pushdowns, this is what I get.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7.../righttris.jpg

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[empy]

theveed: i agree, i was thinking this could be a long-term thread.

anyway, here is what i'm starting on monday (when my stuff arrives):

objective: maintain weight and size, lose fat

limitation: i am lazy and am trying to get decent results without devoting my life to the gym

diet: nothing special, 2000 calories a day with at least 50g of protein...extra protein shake on days that i am lifting

supplement: 2 capsules of Guggulbolic 3x a day, multivitamins

workout: 20 minutes of cardio 3x a week, lift on alternate days

Karding: hardcore ka...i think i'll be happy with the muscle definition you have! :D

[ssaloon]

fafang-fafa ang dating ni karding! monstrous!

[jolog1]

Here's my favorite protein shake recipe. No mess, simple lang. Easy to prepare:

4 oz of cold water
1 packet of Nescafe Ice (vanilla flavor)
ice cubes
1.5 scoop of Designer Whey (Chocolate flavor)

In a blender, add water first then the rest. push liquify (on and off, on and off) hangang smooth ang texture. Kung kulang ang tubig, add little by little hangang umikot yung blender. Sarap ang lasa. Parang yung Nescafe Ice binebenta sa mall.

Another favorite of mine is using frozen strawberries instead of ice cubes, protein powder then water. Blend until texture is smooth. Kung kulang sa tamis, use Splenda or Nutrasweet.

Huwag over-blend or else hindi na thick. Tunaw na ang ice eh kung ganun.

[theveed]

Ahay! Si Karding!!! hahaha...

Ayos back development mo ah... ako straight up ako hehe walang lats, di ata nasama ng ermat ko nung nasa tyan pa nya ako hehehe...

Naka dorm ka ba? hehe wala lang, parang lahat ng nagdodorm kasi sa tate ganyan ang electricfan hehe ganun din akin dati :P

Kainggit dyan, mura ng mail order at web supplements, dito mahal talaga bro...

Question: Were you ever "fat"? Just wondering, coz thin people, when they gain mass, their separation is usually better than fat(ter) people trying to get lean...

[van_wilder]

hehehe... nagiimport po kami ng supplements...

Optimum 100% Whey 2lbs Double Rich Choco, Strawberry, Vanilla Ice Cream
Optimum 100% Whey 5lbs Double Rich Choco, Strawberry, Vanilla Ice Cream
Optimum 100% Whey 10lbs Double Rich Choco, Strawberry, Vanilla Ice Cream
Muscletech NitroTech 2lbs Chocolate, Vanilla
Muscletech NitroTech 4lbs Chocolate, Vanilla
Muscletech NitroTech Night-time 1.8lbs
Muscletech Masstech
Mega Mass 4000 9.9Lbs (10 servings)
Optimum Pro Complex 4.4lbs

Creatine, Glutamine and Amino Acids
SAN Fuel Injection V12 475 grams
Syntrax Swole V2 60 servings
NO2 180caps 3000mg
MHP TRAC 400 grams
Universal NOx3
Muscletech CellTech 4.3lbs Lemon Lime and Grape
Muscletech CellTech 7lbs Lemon Lime and Grape
Muscletech CellTech Carb-Control 320G (20 servings)

Fat Burners
Cytodyne Xenadrine EFX (ephedrine-free) 120 caps
Cytodyne Xenadrine NRG-8 (ephedrine-free) 120 caps
Muscletech Hydroxycut (caffeine-free) 140 caps
Muscletech Hydroxycut (ephedrine-free) 140 caps
Muscletech Hydroxycut (ephedrine-free) 210 caps
Muscletech DietTech (ephedrine-free) 140 caps


PATI DIET-FUEL w/ ephedra meron ako...

pm me for the price... pickup ito ah... kasi mura and orig...

sa akin na kayo kumuha... il email you the pricelist if you want

[denshong128]

pls email to me the price of 10 lbs whey optimum nutrition. dennisiandiosana*yahoo.com.ph

[van_wilder]

ako dati:

celltech + nitrotech... sobrang effective...

tapos nabali wrist ko... no workout... ayun, lumiit... pero unti-unti...

marc nelson daw gumagamit ng no2 eh... effective naman daw... kasi yun mga ibang model ko din na kaibigan gumagamit...

[Karding]

M54, trust me bro, this physique is not satisfying. Kung alam mo lang na Im really frustrated kse hard-gainer ako. This has caused me to have a bad temper whenever I miss a day of my 5-day routine. A work-out high in the works Saka ang physique ko, it doesnt show when I have my clothes on. Kaya gusto ko mag gain ng muscles instead of definitions. Yeah, sometimes its advantageous when your physique only shows when undressed, lalo na sa bebot, hahaha.

fafa mikz, sana nga totoo ang hinala mo sa pagiging monstrous :hihihi:

theveed, hahaha, wala ako sa dorm. Energy efficient kse itong ganito di ba? a combination of exhaust and intake fan tapos space saver pa.

And I was never fat, I have always been an ectomorph. Kung nakita mo sana ako nung bata pa, talagang tikling. Kinahihiya nga ako ng nanay ko isama sa mga gatherings eh, ganon kasama! hahaha. I started doing pull-ups along with my bro 12 years ago. I cant keep up sa kanya pero he pushed me to do at least 3 each day. Ang pull-up nga namin eh yung kahoy sa may itaas ng pintuan, nilalagyan lang namin ng basahan para hindi masakit sa kamay, pwede na.

Two of the most basic exercise na lagi kong ginagawa is pull-ups and dips. Ito yata ang foundation ng pagbubuhat ng mabigat. If you can lift your own weight, everything is going to be easy.

True. Ectomorph gets a better definition but a very consistent workout is needed. Pero mas malaki tignan ang endomorph or mesomorph, mas gusto ko yun.

What started me to hit the gym is when I wanted to become a police officer sa Pinas. Sabi ng tatay ko (RIP), kailangan daw malaki ang katawan ng pulis. I had two years to prepare para sa PNPA. Pero hindi ako naging ganon ka consistent sa work-out ko due to financial issues. Then my petition came in, I moved to states and the workout resumes.

May supplier na pala kayo eh, si van_wilder. Sana naman mura talaga ang benta mo fafa...hehehe

[Karding]

I agree with van_wilder nga pala regarding celltech. Hindi nya lang sinasabi to dahil nagbebenta sya. Effective talaga ang celltech dahil may dextrose na halo.

[notEworthy27]

diba masama pag sobra dextrose? tanong ko lang..

[Karding]

hindi naman sobra ang halong dextrose sa celltech. Kapag puro destrose, yun ang masama.

You can also make a home made celltech by mixing a part of dextrose sa protein drink mo.

Not to spoil van_wilder's business but

What is the Best Type of Creatine?

Well if you want the most bang for your buck do not buy the creatine transports! These are enormously overpriced and you can make them yourself at half the price by buying your own dextrose online! A little tip...a mix of 50g whey protein and 50g dextrose has been shown to elicit the same insulin spike as a serving of Cell-Tech, and it is much cheaper I might add.

[empy]

Originally posted by Karding
This has caused me to have a bad temper whenever I miss a day of my 5-day routine. A work-out high in the works

baka mamaya, 'roid rage na yan!! j/k

update: got the guggulbolic today. when i take it i feel a little hyper, which is expected (the stuff stimulates your thyroid gland), but nothing unsafe or uncomfortable.

i'll report back on the results in about a month or so after i finish the bottle. i am not stacking it with xenadrine or anything like that but if i am still unsatisfied with the results (and i can take a little more hyper-ness), i just might do that.

[theveed]

Van_Wilder, paemail pre... davidleetong*gmail.com san location mo? hehe mamaya ang layo pala :P

Karding: Ewan ko ba hehe I'm a borderline meso-endo body, actually depende sa point of view hehe. My torso is small relative to my legs... Hard gainer sobra sa upper body, lower body medyo madali...

Have you tried take 3-4 weeks off from lifting? I've heard, read and seen great results from guys who, after plateauing for several weeks, take 3-4 weeks off from ANY weight training, but consume more protien during that off period then comes back sa gym able to lift more than before, and muscle mass gains were quite noticeable, mga 4 ata kilala ko before na ganun...

I love to do dips, pullups hina ako dyan, maybe because I'm heavy even when I'm lean... Having relatively short fingers and sweaty palms won't help much sa back hehe.

[theveed]

M54: Yohimbe Bark and MaHuang, mahyhyper ka hehe, but I dont recommend it.

[Karding]

M54, baka masobrahan hyper mo nyan ha. Langya, roid rage ka jan, talagang nagiinit ulo ko kapatid. Na feature na yung sakit na tong behaviour na to sa 20/20, nakalimutan ko lang ang tawag.

theveed, ganda advice mo ah. Kapag sa January 20 walang gain after doing Max-OT and my current supplements, try ko yang 4-weeks off with lots of protein. Nako, malamang mapapa-away ako madalas, baka naman makulong ako?

[van_wilder]

natabunan na itong thread na ito ah... muntik ko ng hindi ma-email si theveed...

nagbebenta rin ako ng dietfuel with mahuang... pero kung hindi naman kailangan wag ka na mag-take...

actually tama si karding pwedeng homemade... pwede ka rin bumili sa mercury ng dextrose tapos bumili ka na lang ng mhp trac or san v12 tapos yun... celltech na yun... ectomorph rin ako pero tamad magtimpla pero masipag pumunta sa gym tutal asa skul rin gym ko... ano pang gagawin ko eh di mag-workout! tamad ako mag-aral eh

pero pinakamaganda kung meso-endo ka mag nitric oxide ka... para lumabas definitions mo...

inemail na kita theveed... qc lang ako pwede rin makati... san ka ba?

sa lahat na gusto magpakuha ng supplements bigay niyo email niyo dito pati locations na possible tayo magmeet...

[van_wilder]

Originally posted by jolog1
Kung gusto ninyo, mag weight meet tayo. Benchpress o clean press tayo to get the Strongest Tsikot title. Calculation will be based on how much you can lift, in ratio to your bodyweight.

Pagtapos meron trophy and the winner will have 5 minutes to brag and everyone is obligated to listen and agree he's a badass.

i weigh 140-150lbs i lift 190-225 sa bench... :D i also lift 225lbs sa close-grip lat pulldown... hehehe... pero payat pa rin ako...