Tied up to the Gym thread... Supplements

[1D4LV]

used to take creatinine for a month. yup, i bulked up easily. got stronger too. but the standard of taking creatinine is limited because it really puts up quite a load into your kidneys and liver. besides, i think i reached my ideal size.

used to supplement before with whey pros after each workout. but i replaced that now by eating "5" hard boiled eggs + water after each workout.

now, i am just taking 2000 vit c, 400 iu vit e and one tablet of revicon everyday.

[lamont]

Dami pala nagbodybuild dito
I'm just taking whey protein with glucose powder as post workout.
Na-try ko na designer whey at on2 whey double rich chocolate.
I liked on2, tastes better than designer, mas madali pang mag mix sa tubig, at mas maraming protein content.

[empy]

thanks for the info. in response to Karding's question, i used to lift weights regularly until 3 years ago, then started up again in january this year and haven't stopped since. so perhaps i've hit a plateau.

i do the high rep, moderate weight stuff - i think i will take your advice and go with more isolation exercises (i do mostly compounds).

theveed, other people have suggested Guggulbolic also - i think i just might try it this time. i took both Hydroxycut and Xenadrine earlier this year (both the ephedra and ephedra-free versions) - the ephedrine works well for me but makes exercising more difficult (dizziness, nausea, etc. at full burn), while the ephedra-free stuff did absolutely nothing for me.

i'll order the stuff tonight and i'll report back with results on this thread...

[lamont]

sir happy_gilmore,
After taking creatine ba, hindi ba parang nawala yung pagiging full ng mga muscles? pagkaintindi ko kasi creatine increases the water content ng muscles (correct me if I'm wrong)....
thanks

[theveed]

M54: Hmm, just a suggestion, if you're comfy with your current exercises, why not increase the intensity but lessen the reps/sets... Same weight, but do things slower and little to no rest... Ibang exhaustion level lang... If your goal is to lose some more bodyfat, isolation won't burn as much calories than compounds kasi... Just suggesting.

Lamont: It doesn't increase the water content but it retains it instead of expelling it... Pero ang water retention sa creatine nakadepend din sa dosage and time kung kelan mo tinake... Iba-iba rin response ng tao to creatine... But you must drink a lot of water to prevent the muscles from retaining water. It's "thinking" kasi na madedehydrate sya so it'll hold up as much water as it can sa fibers...

One thing I don't quite understand (or find credible facts) is how to take Creatine effectively. Some say you must load up, some say you should take it daily at a certain amount... One contradicts the other when I read labels or seek web advice.

[1D4LV]

Originally posted by lamont
sir happy_gilmore,
After taking creatine ba, hindi ba parang nawala yung pagiging full ng mga muscles? pagkaintindi ko kasi creatine increases the water content ng muscles (correct me if I'm wrong)....
thanks

di naman pre. (per my experience)

pareng theveed, crea is taken for a certain limited period as i mentioned above, but you have to take it daily (a certain dosage). you also have to drink lots of water to help your kidneys excrete unused creatinine.

[Chip]

theeved..
tama ka, in the end its still what suits you. may nagsabi nga "find the biggest guy in your gym and doing the OPPOSITE of what he does and youll still grow". its about finding whats best for you.

Karding
di naman hardcore.. feeling hardcore lang hehehehe

Jolog1
with regards to megamass... oo nga e dami sugar and carbs but with my budget ahem ahem ok na to hehehe i plan to switch to ON once tapos na to.

hmm whats next for this thread... tsikot bikini showdown? hehehe
sayang walang female bodybuilding tsikoteers, yon sana hehehe

[theveed]

Chip: Hehe, may bikini ka!???

Baka biglang tumaas ang traffic ng site at bumagal lalo kung nag post mga tao ng bikini clad pics dito hehehehe

LASWA hehehhe

[jolog1]

Kung gusto ninyo, mag weight meet tayo. Benchpress o clean press tayo to get the Strongest Tsikot title. Calculation will be based on how much you can lift, in ratio to your bodyweight.

Pagtapos meron trophy and the winner will have 5 minutes to brag and everyone is obligated to listen and agree he's a badass.

[ssaloon]

:bwahaha:

ayus yan! lugi na kaming mga mabibigat!

[Ungas]

Bwahaha!

Talo ako sa inyo, ang lalakas nyo pala bumuhat. :D

[Karding]

by jolog1:

Kung gusto ninyo, mag weight meet tayo. Benchpress o clean press tayo to get the Strongest Tsikot title. Calculation will be based on how much you can lift, in ratio to your bodyweight.

Pagtapos meron trophy and the winner will have 5 minutes to brag and everyone is obligated to listen and agree he's a badass.

uy, enjoy ito ah. I can bench press 5lbs less than my weight lang buti wala ako jan, kundi talo din and then I have to put up with the bragging :hihihi:

Creatine on Liver:

I started taking Micronized Creatine and I'll hold my thoughts about this issue. Coming from an ectomorph's (hard gainer in other words) point of view Kapag namatay ako, I will be F**ng happy that I lived my life to the fullest enjoying my well developed physique. yeah, I'm serious. Everyone has to die, its just a matter of when and how. Bale-todo na 'to. hahahaha

Creatine and Water:

Walang problema kse bago ako nag supplement ng creatine I usually have a 64oz of water before 11am. One misconception on drinking water is the glass size. Di ba ang sizes ng baso natin sa pinas malalaki? Akala natin, we have to drink 10 of those! Nope. 8-10 glasses of 8oz water to be more specific. A typical medium coffee mug holds 16oz of water. This is what I use to measure up, I consume four of this before 11am. I have been a water conscious since I was a kid. I remember when I was 6 yrs old, laging may isang pitcher at isang bote ng Fundador (water filled!) sa tabi ko kse gumigising ako late at night asking for water.

Isa lang ang pinagtataka ko, the US Gov't banned ephedra and pro-hormone this past year dahil daw delikado. Wag ka, Creatine came out before Ephedra, pero hindi pa din ban ang Creatine. Kung talagang delikado, how come it hasn't been banned yet?

Creatine Loading:

Study shows that there is no difference between doing the loading phase and not doing it. To "maximize and make it faster," loading phase is recommended. This case is especially beneficial to ectomorph, like myself.

All of these are based on my reading and research.

[Karding]

Creatine and mixing it with drinks:

You can mix it with anything but Citrus drinks/juice. I heard it is best to drink creatine with Grape juice. Grape juice helps the stomach for better and faster digestion, with ot without creatine. Another one is mixing creatine with Gatorade powder. Gatorade? Di ba Citrus yon? Yes. But Gatorade powder contains DEXTROSE.

Im taking Creatine with grape juice right now, but I'll get a 5lb powdered gatorade after I finish the bottle of grape juice.

[notEworthy27]

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[theveed]

Noteworthy: Pa pm naman product list and prices kung pwede... or email nalang davidleetong*gmail.com thanks pre...

Jolog: Hehe pass ako dyan, ang hina ko sa Bench hehe... Kanina I was able to hit 100KG sa deadlift 8 reps, di na kaya ng fingers ko bad trip.

[GlennSter]

Originally posted by jolog1
Kung gusto ninyo, mag weight meet tayo. Benchpress o clean press tayo to get the Strongest Tsikot title. Calculation will be based on how much you can lift, in ratio to your bodyweight.

Pagtapos meron trophy and the winner will have 5 minutes to brag and everyone is obligated to listen and agree he's a badass.

lugi ako...herherhehrer

i weigh 210lbs right now (dati 230)

and i can only bench 60kgs plus bar....thats around....150-160 lbs?

[theveed]

O nga pala, bago ma-OT tong thread... Kung dextrose drink ang habol nyo, may product akong ginagamit since bata pa ako, sobrang refreshing sya, medyong sugar substitute, pero pwede drink by itself...

I forgot the name (sorry ha hehe) pero if you go to DEC or any Chinese grocery, may kulang blue na lata (parang size ng 500mg baby milk can) light blue yung can then navy blue yung letters... Sarap nun... I use that instead of sugar.

[empy]

guys, please post your reviews of supplements in this thread. i understand results are different for different people, but i trust the opinions of people on this board.

btw, regarding bench presses, are we talking a single clean rep, or a set of 10? talo ako either way - i can do a single rep of 220 lbs, or a set of 10 at 180. i weigh 168.

[theveed]

M54: Trust me, you're better than I am in both accounts haha...

As for the supplements... I think reviews would have to be more "long terms" siguro mga 3 straight months of supplementation... Dami din kasing factors like is it stacked with something else, etc etc...

Let's post our diets and supplementation nadin... kakasya ba dito yun haha.

[Chip]

theveed..
HAHAHA! mali ako don a hehehehe

jolog1..
pabor sakin yan hehehe im a small guy kasi, tapos papayat pa ako before the meet hehehe daanin ko nalang sa liit, hindi sa lakas :P
ok to a.. gym EB ng tsikot

ditto with what was said regarding supplements..

karding..
tama ka dyan, no one lives forever! hehehe