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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    yup time for manning to retire. he's always had a great offense and the one year where they went to the SB, the LOB just shut them down. he's not really a playoff QB but he is arguably the best regular season QB.
    I'll give him that. He really is the best regular season QB. Playoffs though, Tom Brady's world. I would even take Joe Flacco over Manning to lead my team when it's playoffs time. Although he got injured today. Sad to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akopalasiJoan View Post
    I'll give him that. He really is the best regular season QB. Playoffs though, Tom Brady's world. I would even take Joe Flacco over Manning to lead my team when it's playoffs time. Although he got injured today. Sad to hear.
    Manning just do not have the defense to back him up like Brady, Big Ben, and Flacco had. Even when the Broncos went to the Superbowl, the Seahawks just have that best defense.

    This is the reason I do not use SB wins to compare qbs. America football teams are basically two teams playing opposite sides of the field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post

    This is the reason I do not use SB wins to compare qbs. America football teams are basically two teams playing opposite sides of the field.
    Yep, this is the reason why I think Aaron Rodgers is overrated.

    Btw, the loss of Bears to Broncos just proved that Fox is really a bad coach and justified his sacking from the Broncos, IMO.

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    football is a team sport so rings count for sure. as to who is the best qb, that is highly debatable however i'm sure everyone can agree that brady is right up there with montana. manning? as i said, one of the best regular season QBs. he simply disappears during playoffs. they had the number one offense in 2013 but they were shut down. this was supposed to be his time to shine but it just didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draiman View Post
    Yep, this is the reason why I think Aaron Rodgers is overrated.

    Btw, the loss of Bears to Broncos just proved that Fox is really a bad coach and justified his sacking from the Broncos, IMO.
    Rodger's is overrated??? Not sure about that. He carried his team when his offensive line sucked and the running game was non-existent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Rodger's is overrated??? Not sure about that. He carried his team when his offensive line sucked and the running game was non-existent.
    I Haven't had the chance to watch Aaron Rodgers this year cause honestly I couldn't care less about the NFC. I only watch Pats games and potential teams that we might face in the playoffs. Also, they're struggling right?

    I have watched him last year tho since we played the Packers. It's frustrating to watch him when you root for the other team. He's so good at extending plays. He can kill you with both his pocket presence AND his mobility. He's too overrated if and only if you'd call him the best qb of all time, or the best qb today. But he is indeed one of the greats. But not the greatest in my honest opinion. I've seen his stats, he's not that good in the clutch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    football is a team sport so rings count for sure. as to who is the best qb, that is highly debatable however i'm sure everyone can agree that brady is right up there with montana. manning? as i said, one of the best regular season QBs. he simply disappears during playoffs. they had the number one offense in 2013 but they were shut down. this was supposed to be his time to shine but it just didn't happen.
    Brady v. Manning? That debate is over. The year Tom won his 4th SB ring is the same year Peyton had his 9th one and done in the playoffs.

    And then when Peyton has a great defense, that's when father time caught up to him. They have the number 1 D this year, but their offense was struggling early in the season. Osweiler is winning. QB controversy! Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by akopalasiJoan View Post
    I Haven't had the chance to watch Aaron Rodgers this year cause honestly I couldn't care less about the NFC. I only watch Pats games and potential teams that we might face in the playoffs. Also, they're struggling right?

    I have watched him last year tho since we played the Packers. It's frustrating to watch him when you root for the other team. He's so good at extending plays. He can kill you with both his pocket presence AND his mobility. He's too overrated if and only if you'd call him the best qb of all time, or the best qb today. But he is indeed one of the greats. But not the greatest in my honest opinion. I've seen his stats, he's not that good in the clutch?
    Rodgers is good, but IMO still overrated. He can make great plays in and out of the pocket, I would take Russel Wilson over him anytime, maybe I'm being biased here, but taking Brady out of the picture, he's definitely a top 5 quarterback this season though his team is depleted with injuries, they're still in the running.

    That Hail Mary throw against the Lions though, was beautiful and amazing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by draiman View Post
    Rodgers is good, but IMO still overrated. He can make great plays in and out of the pocket, I would take Russel Wilson over him anytime, maybe I'm being biased here, but taking Brady out of the picture, he's definitely a top 5 quarterback this season though his team is depleted with injuries, they're still in the running.

    That Hail Mary throw against the Lions though, was beautiful and amazing!
    It was! OMG! Have you seen barstool sports' video? It was heart breaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akopalasiJoan View Post
    It was! OMG! Have you seen barstool sports' video? It was heart breaking.
    the facemask penalty before the hail mary was questionable but it gave them one more chance. the throw was good, thats for sure but the lions were expecting a lateral, not a hail mary. that one was on the coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    the facemask penalty before the hail mary was questionable but it gave them one more chance. the throw was good, thats for sure but the lions were expecting a lateral, not a hail mary. that one was on the coach.
    I'm never ever gonna stop watching it, but the NFL right now straight sucks. So many botched and missed calls. Almost every game nalang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draiman View Post
    Rodgers is good, but IMO still overrated. He can make great plays in and out of the pocket, I would take Russel Wilson over him anytime, maybe I'm being biased here, but taking Brady out of the picture, he's definitely a top 5 quarterback this season though his team is depleted with injuries, they're still in the running.

    That Hail Mary throw against the Lions though, was beautiful and amazing!
    You'll take Wilson over Rodgers? WTF?

    Wilson was lucky to have Lynch as his RB. And the Legion of Doom as his defense.

    Put Joe Flacco in that team and he'll have his 3rd SB ring.

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    Late 1990's nung nag-champion GB at Denver plus early 2000'2 rams and patriots nanunuod pa ako.

    Pero nung sunod-sunod controversy sa NE nawalan na ako gana. Did not watch the games anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    You'll take Wilson over Rodgers? WTF?

    Wilson was lucky to have Lynch as his RB. And the Legion of Doom as his defense.

    Put Joe Flacco in that team and he'll have his 3rd SB ring.
    Teka isa pa lang SB ring ni Joe Cool ah? What do you mean 3rd SB ring?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Teka isa pa lang SB ring ni Joe Cool ah? What do you mean 3rd SB ring?
    Oo nga. I stand corrected. Naiisip ko si Eli Manning kasi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    Oo nga. I stand corrected. Naiisip ko si Eli Manning kasi.
    hehe. I think Tom Brady then Peyton Manning are the best QB's f this era. Mas mganda lang talaga supporting cast nang NE kesa IND ni Peyton before. And who knows what other stuff they(NE) do just to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    hehe. I think Tom Brady then Peyton Manning are the best QB's f this era. Mas mganda lang talaga supporting cast nang NE kesa IND ni Peyton before. And who knows what other stuff they(NE) do just to win.
    They hate us cause they ain't us. [emoji58]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    hehe. I think Tom Brady then Peyton Manning are the best QB's f this era. Mas mganda lang talaga supporting cast nang NE kesa IND ni Peyton before. And who knows what other stuff they(NE) do just to win.
    hmmm, defense was ok for NE back then but aside from Randy Moss, did Brady have any other high profile receiver?

    Again, Peyton is arguably the best regular season QB but he chokes in the playoffs. Brady on the other hand has 4 rings.

    The stuff you're talking about, sure, NE is the only who does those lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew_Alcindor View Post
    You'll take Wilson over Rodgers? WTF?

    Wilson was lucky to have Lynch as his RB. And the Legion of Doom as his defense.

    Put Joe Flacco in that team and he'll have his 3rd SB ring.
    Yep. . Even without Lynch now they get decent wins and still in the running...

    Hell I'll even take Big Ben anytime.

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    WOOHOO!

    Patriots vs. Panthers!

    Go Brady!



    ... fingers crossed.

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