Mountain Biking...freespirited, and not-so-complicated fun

**kimpOy** · June 5th, 2003 05:17 PM

medyo nga nahirapan ako yesterday nung inuwi ko ang bike from the bikeshop,

my pickup has a canopy so pahiga na lang yung bike minus the front wheel

**gulliver** · June 5th, 2003 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by cta2

heavyweights are coming... =)... Im one of them!

Thats why you should invest on the lightest bike you can get, coz my body is not helping making it lighter...

gulliver, how's your bike rack coming?

I had a bike rack before and each time I mount my bike at the back of my car, pagod na ako!

cta2 / kimpoy:

a trend seems to be emerging here :D

as for the bike rack, Liezl at Extreme gave me one of their attachments to show to my fabricator, which i plan to do this weekend. sa totoo lang, and after reviewing the different options presented sa isang thread...strapping the whole bike down would have been the least troublesome & of course the cheapest . tulad ng sinabi ni cta2, nakakapagod din mag kabit ng bike sa rack!

but now, with my wife showing interest in getting a bike of her own, plus a friend wants to mount his bike on my pickup when we finally do go out trailing... i have to consider a rack again! i'll post a pix later to show you the attachment Liezl gave me

and eventually the whole rack if the shop can make it.

kimpoy

a lot of nifty goodies on your new bike! i'm looking into possibly changing the tires in a couple of months maybe, pero anong brands ba maganda? noticed you have schwinn on yours, any particular reason why you chose them?

thanks!

**gulliver** · June 5th, 2003 09:12 PM

this is the rack part i mentioned earlier...

http://www.pbase.com/image/17478340

kung paano siya ikabit w/o punching more holes into the bed is the question :?

**cta2** · June 5th, 2003 09:48 PM

just mount the fabricated quick release in a steel bar, the steel bar's length should be the same as the width of your truck's bed... then just place, bolt, or weld more quick release sa steel bar depending on the number of bikes you want to place...

the only holes you should place on your bed is just to bolt the bar with the fabricated quick release.

Regarding tires: choose at least a Japanese brand (US and German ae better), Tires are a big factor on weight!... I actually have slicks on my mt. bike to reduce weight. Nubby tires are heavy and you loose speed on the road... of course kung downhill ka, use nubby tires!...

**gulliver** · June 6th, 2003 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by cta2

just mount the fabricated quick release in a steel bar, the steel bar's length should be the same as the width of your truck's bed... then just place, bolt, or weld more quick release sa steel bar depending on the number of bikes you want to place...

the only holes you should place on your bed is just to bolt the bar with the fabricated quick release.

Regarding tires: choose at least a Japanese brand (US and German ae better), Tires are a big factor on weight!... I actually have slicks on my mt. bike to reduce weight. Nubby tires are heavy and you loose speed on the road... of course kung downhill ka, use nubby tires!...

thanks cta2! i'm trying to find out if a clamp-type system can be used, para detachable din ang bar. unless the bar set up looks good enough to stay on the bed "permanently"...hmmm... the material should be light but strong, not prone to rust, and with expandable capacity, hmmm....maybe if we invent this thing, we can patent it, market it and get rich! :D

re the tires, ok, but may stick to nubbies. wud like to use this bike on raw trails, away from the fumes :wink: by the way, u mentioned "downhill", meron pa bang ibang class sa mt. biking?

**kimpOy** · June 6th, 2003 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by gulliver

kimpoy

a lot of nifty goodies on your new bike! i'm looking into possibly changing the tires in a couple of months maybe, pero anong brands ba maganda? noticed you have schwinn on yours, any particular reason why you chose them?

thanks!

actually schwinn lang "MUD" tires dito sa bike shop, eventually bibili din ako ng PANARACER

**cta2** · June 6th, 2003 05:28 PM

Downhill race/class:
They literally bring you to the top of a mountain and you race going down, mind you that this is rugged terrain and not just dirt!, you can literally fall down a cliff.
Common specs of the bike if downhill:
1. Disk Brakes
2. Full suspension (front and rear), long travel
3. 3 spoke mags
4. full nubby tires
--- they rarely mind weight coz its downhill... kung baga sa kotse, 4x4 to with lockers, and heavily modified etc!

Normal Mt Bike (epic trails) are used for endurance and travelling, uphill, downhill, flat, on off road... they are particular with weight!, usually hard tail (no suspension sa rear), optional pa ang front suspension.

Meron cross (half road bike and mt bike)... these are really light, parang roadbike with thicker tires (but smaller than mt bikes, like slicks). handle bars ng mt bike for easy riding compared to road bikes. Rarely my suspension at all (bt some models of cannondale have)...usual on road but bike can be carried on shoulders on VERY rough terrain... meron race para sa ganito.

Take note: Full suspension is actually a liability when travelling flat and uphill... the suspension robes some power on your legs... they were created for extreme trailing only like downhill

**gulliver** · June 6th, 2003 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by cta2

Take note: Full suspension is actually a liability when travelling flat and uphill... the suspension robes some power on your legs... they were created for extreme trailing only like downhill

cta2

that was one very informative post, thank you!!! so on the excerpt above, it would then make sense to stiffen up the front shock (which i already have, and don't want to let go of) if i expect to do mostly epic and cross trails, tama ba? then pag feeling ko mag downhill (suicidal) run, i should soften it up?

kimpoy

gusto ko na subukan ang UP. marami daw trails/roads doon na pangpatibay ng dibdib :lol: i think i-PM ko na yung cell # sa iba para may makasama naman ako na malapit. then sked naman tayo sa SF pag ready ka na, ok? :mrgreen:

**cta2** · June 6th, 2003 10:14 PM

if you have a variable front shock... really depends on you... parang kotse... soft if you want it comfortable, stiff for competition or downhill...

The liability I was referring is to is for the rear shocks... each time you pedal, the rear shock moves and will not maximize your power.... coz the gear and rollers (draillers) will also move up and down together with the rear wheel... some rear suspensions can be locked... this is done during epic trails or on road use.

Also, full suspension (rear and front suspension), no matter how expensive will still be heavier than a hard tail (no suspension sa rear) if created equal. (yours is considered a hard tail w front shocks)

Again, purchase a bike base on needs and not on looks!... hard core bikers look at the "grupo" rather than suspension.... of course madaming magandang full suspension bikes din!

**gulliver** · June 7th, 2003 02:32 AM

is anybody familiar with the "Giant" brand of frames? how does it compare with Cannondale, Klein, etc. Thanks!

**kimpOy** · June 7th, 2003 09:37 AM

whew, first time i rode m y bike in 5 years,
pick up a sweat!
gulliver i pm you my grand plan he..he

**BlackMagic** · June 7th, 2003 11:28 AM

Kimpoy,
First time in 5 years? Tsk tsk tsk. Your ass is gonna be sore dude. Ako nga first ride ko in 4 months two weeks ago upto now may sakit pa rin sa wetpu hehe. Mag te-train kami nila Guliver tapos dayo kami diyan sa Pampanga ha.

**kimpOy** · June 7th, 2003 11:44 AM

sure men, give a month or two para naman makuha ko resistensya ko

ang sakit nga ng wet pu ko
damn flight seat

**BlackMagic** · June 7th, 2003 03:59 PM

Di na kelangan ng resistensiya. Fun ride na lang. Pag may resistensiya na kayo baka iwan niyo lang ako eh. Pre scout ka naman ng lugar diyan na maganda mag mtb. Dati pinasok namin ang Clark. Dumaan kami sa isang napakahabang bridge lagpas ng Expo. Pagtawid namin puro rough road na. Sarap sana dun kaso di na kami tumuloy kasi naka slick tires kaming lahat. Ngayon naka Goliath na ako sana kayanin na hehe.

**kimpOy** · June 7th, 2003 04:42 PM

BM alam ko yun, dun kami nag tra-trail sa off roading!
ayos dun men bundok talaga!

**gulliver** · June 8th, 2003 01:32 AM

u guys have been busy today, i mean yesterday! looks like all of us are in a conditioning mode too :lol:

pero si BlackMagic, advanced stage na siya at may race siya ngayon, hehehe...siya ata ang posibleng mag-iiwan sa atin...hehehe

Kimpoy, grand plan mo ok dude, date na lang kulang

but that place you and BlackMagic are discussing sounds interesting ah...

fyi, i officially turned over my Scott bike (just when i was getting used to it too) to my wife. spent half the day getting my new Giant mtb together, kaya eto, broke na naman! I just hope I can live up to its reputation, but i doubt it, hahaha...tomorrow, i mean this morning, we will do the neighborhood, and hopefully the bug will not let go of her. tumataba na rin kasi siya :lol:

**Litespeed** · June 8th, 2003 05:37 AM

Originally Posted by gulliver

is anybody familiar with the "Giant" brand of frames? how does it compare with Cannondale, Klein, etc. Thanks!

WOW! Dami palang bike enthusiasts dito. Sorry tagal kong hindi nag-log on sa tsikot.com. Just saw this thread. I actually just came abck from Phils. Anyway, I am roadie most of the time now. Although I still occassionaly go downhill here in NJ. Lots of trails here to smash. But most of the time I ride with a group with my road bike average of 50 miles/wk. Here are rides.
Litespeed Vortex with Shimano Full DuraAce Components, Look Carbon Fork and Rolf Vector Pro Wheels
Giant XTC DS1 with RockShock Sid and Shimano XT components.
Trek 2300 Road Bike with Shimano Ultegra components.

gulliver
Anong Giant and hinahanap mo? I have the dual suspension for downhill and it's amazing how comfortable it is. Pero medyo wala nang masyadong time lately. If you want to find a good review, visit this site. http://www.mtbreview.com/

**BlackMagic** · June 8th, 2003 12:10 PM

gulliver,
just to let you know, I did not finish the race due to cramps. Had to abandon with 7 laps to go. Pero i still placed 4th kasi apat lang kami sa mtb category hehe. Really need to get in shape now.

**gulliver** · June 8th, 2003 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Litespeed

gulliver
Anong Giant and hinahanap mo? I have the dual suspension for downhill and it's amazing how comfortable it is. Pero medyo wala nang masyadong time lately. If you want to find a good review, visit this site. http://www.mtbreview.com/

Litespeed

u have some real beauties there man! including one that looks line mine, but your model comes equipped with a rear shock...i decided on the Giant xtc hard tail yesterday and took it for a 45-minute spin today, very, very happy with it. Except that the "MTs" i got are pretty sticky on the asphalt. for my conditioning period which will be done mainly on tarmac, i'm considering getting a pair of slick-like tires. siguro mas mabilis yon at ma-save ko naman tong mga "MTs" ko till the bikers on this thread finally go hit the trails :D if you want to see my new ride...

http://www.pbase.com/image/17574038

looks like your road bike is your favorite tho hehehe

BlackMagic

4th, despite your cramps?! congrats kid! how many kilometers was the race and what kind of track, the fort tarmacs or a specially built off-road track? kwento ka naman!

**BlackMagic** · June 8th, 2003 09:33 PM

tarmac pre. Logged 30K lang. Could have finished the race had I done some warm up laps kaso napasarap ng kwento kaya di na naka warm up.

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