Lebron james thread: Haters and lovers alikes are welcome.

[four-rings]

As if naman yung isa rito credible...binanatan pa yung isang poster regarding credibility...nagpapalitan lang tayo dito ng mga opinyon boy..

oo opinion nga pero coming from an admitted hater like you, ill take the word of one who watches than some who quotes bleacherreport, which, by the way is a "source sports network that caters to citizen journalism."

[four-rings]

*sir four-rings, we all know that Cavs could have won more games than they usually did. Ang season nato parang ginamit lang nila for their rookies to have more experience. I think they even put 2-3 rookies in their starting lineup alternately and Mo's minutes when he's still there is limited. I agree with you that LBJ's cast in last years playoffs were inconsistent.

HINDI NA AKO MAKAPAGHINTAY BUKAS AND SEE HOW WILL THE HEAT STOP DIRK AND CO.

yes and i think they tanked this season to land top picks which they did.

[four-rings]

And vice-versa with the Mavs. Again in 2006 they went up 2-zip. If you watch the 1st 2 games parang walang chance talaga Miami, they were totally outclassed. Kaso iba nga talaga yung walang pa masyadong play-off experience, natalo lang ng game 3, ulats na.

Same thing that happened with Orl in 1995. Game 1 was almost in the bag but nasulot, ayun, na-sweep pa. Imagine what would have happened if they win game 1.

But si LBJ maganda nilaro sa 2007 finals kaso iba pa lakas ng SAS noon eh, tindi pa ng combo ni TD at BB sa depensa. Pero dun ko lang nakita na pinaglaruan ni LBJ si BB gaya nung na-sweep ng LAL ang SAS noong 2001 ata yun.

Iba rin talaga pag championship na ang nakataya. I remember that 2006 series. Dirk couldve tied that crucial game (game 3) with 2 secs to go? After nun nabuhayan na miami and nagwala na si wade.

Grabe din talaga si Olajuwon daming moves. Grabe sa pivot. Kahit point guards ginagaya pa rin dream shake.

[four-rings]

hehehhe i dont discuss what i think to get my credibility from you. different people have different perspective. i am only out here to discuss what i observe on things happening to LBJ. as i have said, some people will always said he is good(i agree) but some people think he is great (that i have to be convinced). but the way things are going, baka mas mahirapan sya convinced ako lalo na ibang tao. but hey, it might not be LBJ's plan(or mav carters priority). as i have said before, i am only against LBJ's management directions(partially it might include him). it might haunt him in the future.

dami kasi entourage ni lebron. sometimes having a bunch of friends decide your business will not work to one's benefit. lalu na ngayon with the internet, twitter and such, ambilis umabot sa public lahat ng sabihin at gawin ng isang player. ambilis din ng public scrutiny.

[four-rings]

nakita niyo ba yung open letter/ reply ni kareem kay pippen?

from slamonline:
How Soon They Forget: An Open Letter to Scottie Pippen

Dear Scottie,

I have nothing but respect for you my friend as an athlete and knowledgeable basketball mind. But you are way off in your assessment of who is the greatest player of all time and the greatest scorer of all time. Your comments are off because of your limited perspective. You obviously never saw Wilt Chamberlain play who undoubtedly was the greatest scorer this game has ever known. When did MJ ever average 50.4 points per game plus 25.7 rebounds? (Wilt in the 1962 season when blocked shot statistics were not kept). We will never accurately know how many shots Wilt blocked. Oh, by the way in 1967 and 68, Wilt was a league leader in assists. Did MJ ever score 100 points in a game? How many times did MJ score more than 60 points in a game? MJ led the league in scoring in consecutive seasons for 10 years but he did this in an NBA that eventually expanded into 30 teams vs. when Wilt played and there were only 8 teams.

Every team had the opportunity to amass a solid nucleus. Only the cream of the basketball world got to play then. So MJ has to be appraised in perspective. His incredible athletic ability, charisma and leadership on the court helped to make basketball popular around the world — no question about that. But in terms of greatness, MJ has to take a backseat to The Stilt.

In terms of winning, Michael excelled as both an emotional and scoring leader but Bill Russell’s Celtics won eight consecutive NBA Championships. Bill’s rebounding average per game is over 22.5 lifetime, MJs best rebounding years was eight per game (1989). But we will never know exactly how many shots Bill Russell blocked because again, they never kept that statistic while he played. However, if you ask anybody that played against Russell, they will just roll their eyes and say he blocked all the shots he wanted to block in the crucial moments of a game.

Bill played on a total of 11 championship teams and as you very well know, Scottie, the ring is the thing, and everything else is just statistics. So I would advise you to do a little homework before crowning Michael or LeBron with the title of best ever. As dominant as he is, LeBron has yet to win a championship. I must say that it looks like Miami has finally put the team together that will change that circumstance. Its my hope that today’s players get a better perspective on exactly what has been done in this league in the days of yore.

Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer

[LeBRONghini6]

nakita niyo ba yung open letter/ reply ni kareem kay pippen?

from slamonline:
How Soon They Forget: An Open Letter to Scottie Pippen

Dear Scottie,

I have nothing but respect for you my friend as an athlete and knowledgeable basketball mind. But you are way off in your assessment of who is the greatest player of all time and the greatest scorer of all time. Your comments are off because of your limited perspective. You obviously never saw Wilt Chamberlain play who undoubtedly was the greatest scorer this game has ever known. When did MJ ever average 50.4 points per game plus 25.7 rebounds? (Wilt in the 1962 season when blocked shot statistics were not kept). We will never accurately know how many shots Wilt blocked. Oh, by the way in 1967 and 68, Wilt was a league leader in assists. Did MJ ever score 100 points in a game? How many times did MJ score more than 60 points in a game? MJ led the league in scoring in consecutive seasons for 10 years but he did this in an NBA that eventually expanded into 30 teams vs. when Wilt played and there were only 8 teams.

Every team had the opportunity to amass a solid nucleus. Only the cream of the basketball world got to play then. So MJ has to be appraised in perspective. His incredible athletic ability, charisma and leadership on the court helped to make basketball popular around the world — no question about that. But in terms of greatness, MJ has to take a backseat to The Stilt.

In terms of winning, Michael excelled as both an emotional and scoring leader but Bill Russell’s Celtics won eight consecutive NBA Championships. Bill’s rebounding average per game is over 22.5 lifetime, MJs best rebounding years was eight per game (1989). But we will never know exactly how many shots Bill Russell blocked because again, they never kept that statistic while he played. However, if you ask anybody that played against Russell, they will just roll their eyes and say he blocked all the shots he wanted to block in the crucial moments of a game.

Bill played on a total of 11 championship teams and as you very well know, Scottie, the ring is the thing, and everything else is just statistics. So I would advise you to do a little homework before crowning Michael or LeBron with the title of best ever. As dominant as he is, LeBron has yet to win a championship. I must say that it looks like Miami has finally put the team together that will change that circumstance. Its my hope that today’s players get a better perspective on exactly what has been done in this league in the days of yore.

Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer

Sa panahon ni Wilt, hindi pa gaano kagagaling ang mga players kaya kaya niya idominate sa lahat. MJ is GOAT pero dapat ang basehan ay every era or generation dahil ngayon, ang daming magagaling na players and patuloy na nageevolve ang mga athletes. Mga top picks nga na PG kahit wala gaanong skills puro speed, athleticism, power eh halos hindi na mabantayan.

[Ry_Tower]

Iba rin talaga pag championship na ang nakataya. I remember that 2006 series. Dirk couldve tied that crucial game (game 3) with 2 secs to go? After nun nabuhayan na miami and nagwala na si wade.

Grabe din talaga si Olajuwon daming moves. Grabe sa pivot. Kahit point guards ginagaya pa rin dream shake.

Dyan kay Hakeem "The Dream" nagpaturo si KB ng low post moves, dapat si LBJ paturo din.

[Ry_Tower]

nakita niyo ba yung open letter/ reply ni kareem kay pippen?

from slamonline:
How Soon They Forget: An Open Letter to Scottie Pippen

Dear Scottie,

I have nothing but respect for you my friend as an athlete and knowledgeable basketball mind. But you are way off in your assessment of who is the greatest player of all time and the greatest scorer of all time. Your comments are off because of your limited perspective. You obviously never saw Wilt Chamberlain play who undoubtedly was the greatest scorer this game has ever known. When did MJ ever average 50.4 points per game plus 25.7 rebounds? (Wilt in the 1962 season when blocked shot statistics were not kept). We will never accurately know how many shots Wilt blocked. Oh, by the way in 1967 and 68, Wilt was a league leader in assists. Did MJ ever score 100 points in a game? How many times did MJ score more than 60 points in a game? MJ led the league in scoring in consecutive seasons for 10 years but he did this in an NBA that eventually expanded into 30 teams vs. when Wilt played and there were only 8 teams.

Every team had the opportunity to amass a solid nucleus. Only the cream of the basketball world got to play then. So MJ has to be appraised in perspective. His incredible athletic ability, charisma and leadership on the court helped to make basketball popular around the world — no question about that. But in terms of greatness, MJ has to take a backseat to The Stilt.

In terms of winning, Michael excelled as both an emotional and scoring leader but Bill Russell’s Celtics won eight consecutive NBA Championships. Bill’s rebounding average per game is over 22.5 lifetime, MJs best rebounding years was eight per game (1989). But we will never know exactly how many shots Bill Russell blocked because again, they never kept that statistic while he played. However, if you ask anybody that played against Russell, they will just roll their eyes and say he blocked all the shots he wanted to block in the crucial moments of a game.

Bill played on a total of 11 championship teams and as you very well know, Scottie, the ring is the thing, and everything else is just statistics. So I would advise you to do a little homework before crowning Michael or LeBron with the title of best ever. As dominant as he is, LeBron has yet to win a championship. I must say that it looks like Miami has finally put the team together that will change that circumstance. Its my hope that today’s players get a better perspective on exactly what has been done in this league in the days of yore.

Affectionately,
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
NBA’s All-Time Leading Scorer

Very much the way Kareem does things. He was always simple, never really playing up to the antics of the media and what a way to express himself.

[LeBRONghini6]

Dyan kay Hakeem "The Dream" nagpaturo si KB ng low post moves, dapat si LBJ paturo din.

Sana nga makuha siya ng Heat, diba may rumors na may problem between Lakers' front office and him?

Very much the way Kareem does things. He was always simple, never really playing up to the antics of the media and what a way to express himself.

And why is he not the best scorer when he is the NBA player with most points? haha

[niwde11]

Sana nga makuha siya ng Heat, diba may rumors na may problem between Lakers' front office and him?


And why is he not the best scorer when he is the NBA player with most points? haha

coz he played for 20 seasons. so medyo mababa average nya
Wilt is a dominant scorer. but later on his career medyo decoy na sya that shows his passing abilities.
MJ has the best average scoring wise per game(afair). dont know if he still after playing with the wizards.

[peejay_07]

coz he played for 20 seasons. so medyo mababa average nya
Wilt is a dominant scorer. but later on his career medyo decoy na sya that shows his passing abilities.
MJ has the best average scoring wise per game(afair). dont know if he still after playing with the wizards.

alam ko tied na sila ni Kareem, 30.1pts per game

[Ry_Tower]

tahimik na thread na ito dahil mala[it na manalo si LBJ ng 1st championship niya ano?

[LeBRONghini6]

Marami lang naghihintay siguro na magchoke siya. Siya ung last shot tapos hindi papasok, ang daming magcricriticize sa kanya pero kay Dirk wala hahaha.

[oliver1013]

Wala kasi di naman mayabang sa perception ng tao just like durant.

[valskie01]

parang nawalan ng gana mag laro si the "king" sa game 4.

[Ginnova]

kung kelan championship saka walang gana maglaro. no heart at all compare to wade....

[shadow]

baka meron din sakit parang si Dirk?

[niwde11]

baka meron din sakit parang si Dirk?

yeah yun nga sakit nya shadow. not passionate about the game the wade shows. :D

[oliver1013]

8 points? pyesta ang Lechoke haters neto

[tidus1203]

Na Lechoke ang Miami Heat!