China Corona Virus Outbreak

[Monseratto]

[Devastator]

May mamumura na naman si tanda sa press con. Typical government response will be "mahirap I-compare ang Pinas sa ibang bansa, mas advance sila, iba population nila, 1st world sila." anything to defend themselves. Imbis na umamin at mangako na pag bubutihin ang gagawin eh magagalit pa. "gusto mo Leni sprayan natin ng insecticide ang buong Pilipinas". These are not the type of response I'm expecting from a leader regarding a serious situation.

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Wala na talagang maasahan kay Duterte. I don't even know if he really cares at all at parang napipilitan lang siya magsalita every week. Ewan ko ba sa iyo, Pilipinas kung sino pa yung may magandang hangarin at maraming naitulong siya pa yung kontrabida.

[kagalingan]

so its not the fezsheld.

its the balooning 21 below population malakas makahawa.

family planning na. Wag lang putok ng putok. Gagapang ka naman in the future bili gatas, tuition....haaaay buhay!!!!

[uls]

so its not the fezsheld.

its the balooning 21 below population malakas makahawa.

family planning na. Wag lang putok ng putok. Gagapang ka naman in the future bili gatas, tuition....haaaay buhay!!!!

you only figured that out now?

young people = mostly asymptomatic / mild symptoms

nahawa mga middle aged with co-morbidity and seniors sa ospital ang bagsak

[kagalingan]

^
patweetums yang post ko painnocente.

kita mo nga ilan beses nagposit si shadow about sa assessment ko na effective pag wala kabataan sa labas.

Sino ba nagcreate sa thread about sa density and population sa miscellaneous thread.

[uls]

^
patweetums yang post ko painnocente.

kita mo nga ilan beses nagposit si shadow about sa assessment ko na effective pag wala kabataan sa labas.

una sa lahat pinakamadami cases natin sa southeast asia

mas madami pa kesa indonesia na mas malaki ang populasyan

so di ko alam ano sinasabi mo "effective" na nagawa ng gobyerno

ung pag bawal lumabas ang 21 below maari nakapigil sa MAS madami kaso

kung hindi pinagbawal ang mga 21 below siguro ubos ang senior citizen population ng Pinas

halos lahat siguro ng mga lolo't lola sa 3 generation households ubos

pinakapalpak sa SEA ang bansa natin pag dating sa contact tracing and isolation

[uls]

sa ibang bansa na pilit nag reopen ang mga eskwelahan dami namatay na teacher

[dr. d]

^


Sino ba nagcreate sa thread about sa density and population sa miscellaneous thread.

share it nah!
sino?
at bakit dapat nating pasalamatan?

[ray_noel]

yup kahit may dalang test result dapat pagdudahan parin

maari fake or maari nahawa after swab

if a country wants to make sure -- pag dating sa airport swab test + quarantine

kahit negative sa swab tapusin parin quarantine

sa lagay na yan di pa 100% yan pero that reduces the probability significantly

Sa NZ ganyan ginagawa... from airport diretso quarantine + swab test... sana ganyan din sa lahat para puro community transmission lang ang aabalahin...


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[baludoy]

i guess this just goes to show that stupidity and hardheadedness know no economic boundaries

Cavite gov orders closure of golf course over alleged quarantine violations

[Deestone]

Pass-by BDO Sea Residences in Pasay they now require quarrantine pass before you enter the bank.

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[Flipo]

How close is a coronavirus vaccine? | Free to read | Financial Times

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[Monseratto]

New cases slowly dropping in number... fingers crossed

DOH reports 2,180 new cases today, less than 4,000 daily for the 10th straight day (and less than 3,000 for the third straight day)

Moreover, 18 cases previously tagged as recovered were reclassified to deaths (17) and an active (1) case.

[uls]

How close is a coronavirus vaccine? | Free to read | Financial Times

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from the article:




J&J

[Flipo]

Yes Uls, from the map but no report from DOH.

Coronavirus vaccine: Fauci tells Congress the U.S. could have enough for every American by April

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[Flipo]

The miracle of vaccines
By: Peter Wallace - *inquirerdotnet
Philippine Daily Inquirer / 05:04 AM September 24, 2020

The first vaccine was developed in 1796 by Edward Jenner, who used cowpox material to develop immunity to smallpox. According to historyofvaccines.org, the next major breakthrough occurred in 1885, almost 100 years later: the development of the rabies vaccine by Louis Pasteur.

Other vaccines developed through the 1930s (50 years later) include those against tetanus, cholera, typhoid, and TB. “The middle of the 20th century was an active time for vaccine research and development. Methods for growing viruses in the laboratory led to rapid discoveries and innovations, including the creation of vaccines for polio. Researchers targeted other common childhood diseases such as measles, mumps, and rubella, and vaccines for these diseases reduced the burden greatly,” the site says.

Polio and measles are diseases that supposedly no longer exist because of herd immunity. The Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology says “herd immunity (or community immunity) occurs when a high percentage of the community is immune to a disease (through vaccination and/or prior illness), making the spread of this disease from person to person unlikely. Even individuals not vaccinated (such as newborns and the immunocompromised) are offered some protection because the disease has little opportunity to spread within the community.”

This is something the world will struggle to achieve for COVID-19.

Vaccines must go through extensive trials to ensure they are not only effective but also safe to use. Unlike drugs to cure, which are administered to sick people to make them better, vaccines are given to healthy people to prevent them from getting sick. And they are administered to millions of people, not just a few. So, ensuring they are safe through rigorous, no-compromise (Trump, please note) processes with no side effects is extremely important—nay, essential.

Vaccines go through four phases. Clinical development takes up three phases. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention outlines it as: “During Phase I, small groups of people receive the trial vaccine. In Phase II, the clinical study is expanded and the vaccine is given to people who have characteristics (such as age and physical health) similar to those for whom the new vaccine is intended. In Phase III, the vaccine is given to tens of thousands of people and tested for efficacy and safety. Many vaccines also undergo Phase IV formal, ongoing studies after the vaccine is approved and licensed.”

It’s in Phase IV of post-marketing surveillance that more information on the vaccine’s safety and efficacy is collected—particularly important as it confirms whether or not side effects occur.

This is what happened with Dengvaxia, and look at the hysterical reaction it generated. Instead of accepting that this was a safe drug proven in extensive trials and Phase III tests of 29,000 people that went on for 25 months—not the few that COVID-19 is being forced through—there was a weakness that post-marketing surveillance discovered. Some people who had not had dengue before suffered more severely when they did get dengue than if they hadn’t been vaccinated—something that wasn’t uncovered in the Phase III trials and was only discovered after actual use in Phase IV. Sanofi, the manufacturer, did the responsible thing of informing health authorities worldwide.

Will we get the same mindless, hysterical reaction if subsequent market surveillance uncovers a worrying side effect from a COVID-19 vaccine?

It’s time to accept that no vaccine is perfectly safe. As long as it saves vastly more lives than it risks, it should be accepted and used. Dengvaxia has been approved and is in use in 19 countries, and has saved an estimated 1 million lives. Yet it is banned here.

Latest data from the Department of Health show that in the first eight months of 2019, there were 1,107 deaths due to dengue. Many of the 1,107 people who died of dengue would still be alive today if they’d been vaccinated. Their families might not be too happy with the Dengvaxia ban. It’s time the DOH brought Dengvaxia back on the market. And takes care in accepting and using a COVID-19 vaccine, but accepts it with the recognition that it, too, may share side effects later discovered. But they’ll almost certainly not lead to death—as lack of a vaccine will.

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[Monseratto]

Exclusive: Top adviser steps aside from FDA COVID-19 vaccine reviews over potential conflict | Reuters

Trump says he might reject stricter FDA vaccine guidelines - POLITICO

[Monseratto]

Indonesia and Myanmar new cases hitting new highs...

[dr. d]

i guess this just goes to show that stupidity and hardheadedness know no economic boundaries

Cavite gov orders closure of golf course over alleged quarantine violations

not stupid.
just pasaway.

on the other hand...
yes,
stupid.
for thinking that they would get away with it.
heh heh.

[baludoy]

^ semantics lang iyan, doc. stupid is as stupid does ika nga ni forrest gump

iloilo city to be demerited into a mecq status starting tomorrow.

Iloilo City placed under MECQ from Sept. 25 to Oct. 9 | Inquirer News