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    gut feel ko lang shadow kaya ko binili

    then yesterday nakita ko post ni Mons

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Monserrato posted an article that says salt water could be effective against the virus

    diba there's an old remedy where you gargle water with salt?

    when i saw that at the grocery weeks ago, i thought it "hey this makes sense and it's more convenient than sarili timpla water + salt"
    hypertonic solutions have been used for centuries, to kill bacteria.
    it is the basis of the cured meat industry.

    yes, them commercial preparations are convenient.
    but if you balk at cost, there's the ... "i-halo ang isang kutsaritang asin sa isang basong maligamgam na tubig, at i-mumog".

    bottomline,
    "whatever works for you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Missy View Post
    based on location tracking

    -

    anyway, kahit di umaalis sa lugar nila mga tao

    nakatira naman sa napaka crowded na bahay / community

    paano hindi magkahawaan?

    #1 place where virus spreads is within household

    so even if people stay home all day, when one of them goes to market to buy food and brings home the virus, the whole family gets infected

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    hypertonic solutions have been used for centuries, to kill bacteria.
    it is the basis of the cured meat industry.

    yes, them commercial preparations are convenient.
    but if you balk at cost, there's the ... "i-halo ang isang kutsaritang asin sa isang basong maligamgam na tubig, at i-mumog".

    bottomline,
    "whatever works for you."


    i'm lazy eh hehe

    kaya when i saw that binili ko

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    i'm lazy eh hehe

    kaya when i saw that binili ko
    i am happy for your intention at spreading the wealth around and helping the economy during these trying times.
    increase, tribe! increase!
    heh heh.

    their video ads were very catchy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i am happy for your intention at spreading the wealth around and helping the economy during these trying times.
    increase, tribe! increase!
    heh heh.

    their video ads were very catchy.

    haha

    anything i can do to help the economy


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    nagka COVID 19 si Duran

    Panamanian boxing legend Roberto Duran hospitalized with COVID-19 | Philstar.com

    Panamanian Roberto "Hands of Stone" Duran, six-time boxing world champion, was hospitalized in non-life-threatening condition Thursday (Friday, Manila time) with the novel coronavirus, his children said on the same day that Panama hit a new record of daily cases.

    "Test results have just arrived for my dad, and they confirm he is positive for COVID-19," the legendary fighter's son Robin Duran said on Instagram.

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    #13488
    If salt kills viruses, then dapat open na mga beach resorts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    If salt kills viruses, then dapat open na mga beach resorts!
    ...we'd have to take in the seawater... swirl it around... then spit it out!

    then, after communing with the seawater,
    we get out, and we do not wipe ourselves dry, to bring along the protective salt on our skin, for the rest of the day..
    para tayong naglalakad na salted pork... or beef...

    heh heh.
    Last edited by dr. d; June 26th, 2020 at 12:47 PM.

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    #13490
    actually

    i don't believe gargling salt water can kill the virus

    when the virus binds to ACE2 receptors on our cells it enters the cells

    so how can salt water reach the virus when it's inside our cells?

    maybe when the virus is still outside... maybe

    -

    OR, salt water can prevent secondary infections

    when the body is busy fighting the virus, may chance na bacteria can grow in the respiratory tract and lead to pneumonia

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    ang sakin lang there's no harm in gargling water + salt

    wala naman mawawala if you do it every morning pagkagising
    Last edited by uls; June 26th, 2020 at 01:01 PM.

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    Nahiyain umamin na may sakit..So while nasa bahay sige ang kalat ng sakit. Pupunta na lang kung grabe na yung sakit.

    COVID-19 cases in Central Visayas breach 7,000-mark | Cebu Daily News
    Last edited by Monseratto; June 26th, 2020 at 01:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    actually

    i don't believe gargling salt water can kill the virus

    when the virus binds to ACE2 receptors on our cells it enters the cells

    so how can salt water reach the virus when it's inside our cells?

    maybe when the virus is still outside... maybe

    -

    OR, salt water can prevent secondary infections

    when the body is busy fighting the virus, may chance na bacteria can grow in the respiratory tract and lead to pneumonia

    -

    ang sakin lang there's no harm in gargling water + salt

    wala naman mawawala if you do it every morning pagkagising
    If that’s the case... if you are infected most probably magiging asymthomatic ka if you salt+water gargle...kasi it stop infections/symptons...


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    Salt flushing up your nose and gargling can shorten the duration of covid cases...


    Hypertonic saline nasal irrigation and gargling should be considered as a treatment option for COVID-19

    Post-hoc secondary analysis of data from our recent Edinburgh and Lothians Viral Intervention Study (ELVIS) pilot randomised controlled trial (RCT) indicates that hypertonic saline nasal irrigation and gargling (HSNIG) reduced the duration of coronavirus upper respiratory tract infection (URTI) by an average of two-and-a-half days. As such, it may offer a potentially safe, effective and scalable intervention in those with Coronavirus Disease-19 (COVID-19) following infection with the betacoronavirus Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) [1].

    We also recently reported that epithelial cells mount an antiviral effect by producing hypochlorous acid (HOCl) from chloride ions [3]. HOCl is the active ingredient in bleach. Epithelial cells have this innate antiviral immune mechanism to clear viral infections. Since bleach is effective against all virus types [4], we tested to see if a range of DNA, RNA, enveloped and non-enveloped viruses were inhibited in the presence of chloride ions supplied via salt (NaCl). All the viruses we tested were inhibited in the presence of NaCl. The human viruses we tested were: DNA/enveloped: herpes simplex virus; RNA/enveloped: human coronavirus 229E (HCoV-229E), respiratory syncytial virus, influenza A virus; and RNA/non-enveloped: coxsackievirus B3 [3].

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    actually

    i don't believe gargling salt water can kill the virus

    when the virus binds to ACE2 receptors on our cells it enters the cells

    so how can salt water reach the virus when it's inside our cells?

    maybe when the virus is still outside... maybe

    -

    OR, salt water can prevent secondary infections

    when the body is busy fighting the virus, may chance na bacteria can grow in the respiratory tract and lead to pneumonia

    -

    ang sakin lang there's no harm in gargling water + salt

    wala naman mawawala if you do it every morning pagkagising
    gargling with salt water soothes my throat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    ang sakin lang there's no harm in gargling water + salt

    wala naman mawawala if you do it every morning pagkagising
    Naghanda rin ako ng pang throat, spray nga lang. Its not so much about killing the virus but helping fight the infection or provide relief.

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    thing is, in overcrowded PH metropolitan areas (metro manila, metro cebu etc), mahirap i-isolate mga infected

    una, those who could be carrying the virus (while waiting for PCR test result) they're not isolated

    nandun lang sila sa bahay nila, sa community, nakakalabas pa...

    pag lumabas ang result at positive pala... ilan araw na nakalipas ilan tao nakasalamuha nun

    sigurado nahawa na ang mga kasama sa bahay

    nahawa din mga nakasalamuha ng mga kasama sa bahay

    --

    while waiting for for PCR result madami lugar pwede puntahan nung tao

    how are you gonna trace all that?

    di naman tayo South Korea na hitech ang tracing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Salt flushing up your nose and gargling can shorten the duration of covid cases...
    ayun salt is antiviral


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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    gargling with salt water soothes my throat.
    In which, sore throat is also a symptom for covid...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ray_noel View Post
    In which, sore throat is also a symptom for covid...


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    you guys are so paranoid!
    i was having sore throat, even before 2019...
    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    you guys are so paranoid!
    i was having sore throat, even before 2019...
    heh heh.
    doc, ako rin may sore throat and stuffed nose ngayon.

    nakaka aning tbh.

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