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    Bangkok: A Chinese woman infected with the new coronavirus showed a dramatic improvement after she was treated with a cociktail of anti-virals used to treat flu & HIV, Thailand's health ministry said Sunday. The 71-year-old patient tested negative for the virus 48 hours after Thai doctors administered the combination, doctor Kriengsak Atti****wanich said during the ministry's daily press briefing.

    "The lab result of positive on the coronavirus turned negative in 48 hours," Kriengsak said

    Coronavirus treatment: Thailand sees apparent success treating Coronavirus with drug cocktail - The Economic Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketib View Post
    Bangkok: A Chinese woman infected with the new coronavirus showed a dramatic improvement after she was treated with a cociktail of anti-virals used to treat flu & HIV, Thailand's health ministry said Sunday. The 71-year-old patient tested negative for the virus 48 hours after Thai doctors administered the combination, doctor Kriengsak Atti****wanich said during the ministry's daily press briefing.

    "The lab result of positive on the coronavirus turned negative in 48 hours," Kriengsak said

    Coronavirus treatment: Thailand sees apparent success treating Coronavirus with drug cocktail - The Economic Times

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    it looks promising, but it's only one case.
    let us wait for further developments, before waving the victory flag..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it looks promising, but it's only one case.
    let us wait for further developments, before waving the victory flag..
    Sabi nga ng WHO, 1 case is hardly an evidence that it works. [emoji40]


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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    it looks promising, but it's only one case.
    let us wait for further developments, before waving the victory flag..
    doc, sorry to say this. Pero saan na mga magagaling nating doctor? Mga UP grads? Pag binasa ang article may mga gumaling na.[emoji122] [emoji122] [emoji122]

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    Haba ba netong thread [emoji16]

    Dito sa office namin all entrance may infrared thermometer gun yung security.

    Wala clear guidelines ang building admin, sabi ko what if may above 36 ang temp? Denied entry ba?

    BTT

    How can you qualify as PUI? Showing symptoms outright PUI ka na?



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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Umpisahan na dapat ng mga companies mag move out ng china. Ilipat na nila sa iba mga factories nila. It will takes years but they better starts now.

    This is an opportunity for other SEA nations na makuha na yun business from China.

    This will not be the last time na magkaroon ng sakit galing sa China.

    Big companies must be hit hard now para magising na sila.


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    tama, eto yung sinasabing "nice move!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Umpisahan na dapat ng mga companies mag move out ng china. Ilipat na nila sa iba mga factories nila. It will takes years but they better starts now.

    This is an opportunity for other SEA nations na makuha na yun business from China.

    This will not be the last time na magkaroon ng sakit galing sa China.

    Big companies must be hit hard now para magising na sila.


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    Consumer base nila is bigger than SEA. population... And they really spend. Kaya pati mga Kano ayaw umalis. Yung factories that moved to Vietnam went back to China kasi mababa ang skill levels ng workers sa Vietnam... Wala gusto lumipat sa pinas dahil... alam mo na. Which can be attributed to China's education system.

    Coronavirus Outbreak Tests World’s Dependence on China - The New York Times

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    Si wifey sinipon the other day with ubo pa, itchy throat daw, were going to Manila pa naman hahaha, biglang tanong nya sa akin, ilang days na nga ba tayo, sabi ko we sobra na tayo sa 14 days quarantine period kaya huwag kang matakot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketib View Post
    doc, sorry to say this. Pero saan na mga magagaling nating doctor? Mga UP grads? Pag binasa ang article may mga gumaling na.[emoji122] [emoji122] [emoji122]

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    nasa abroad.
    joke....
    i hope!
    heh heh.

    seriously,
    our magagaling na mga duktors are out there still, in the field of ordinary human pilipino endeavor, quietly tending to the needs of the millions of ordinary filipinos. they do not cry for recognition, they do not wave victory flags, nor do they break into the news. they may not have ideal financial and logistical support, but they do their job, anyway. happily.
    while the public's attention is glued to the relatively few specialists ministering to the victims of the new coronavirus, our magagaling na mga duktor are out there, quietly plodding along, doing their noble calling, sans advertisement. that's where our magagaling na mga duktors, are.

    hey! the patent to "magagaling na duktor" is not held by UP. maraming magagaling na mga duktor, na hindi galing sa UP.

    to bring things into perspective.
    the new corona virus is not 100% fatal. early information indicates about 2-3% fatality rate. it's similar to the usual viral pneumonias that we are already plagued with.
    so, this early, recovery after being infected with the new coronavirus, appears to be the expected norm.
    it is actually the press, that is magnifying every single detail out of proportion, as it crawls out of the medical facility. (hey! i like the press! it makes for easier funding. heh heh.)

    so begs the question, "did the patient get better because of the drugs, or did patient get better despite of and with nary a care for, the drugs?"
    hence, the need for further research.
    wag muna ilabas ang bandila ng tagumpay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badsekktor View Post
    425 na death toll, almost 20,000 infected in just a span of 2 months? i hope the spread would slow down. ang bilis kumalat! kahit mababa ang death rate eh kung mabilis ang pagkalat nyan, marami mamamatay.
    actually many believe the official numbers coming out of China are too low

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketib View Post
    doc, sorry to say this. Pero saan na mga magagaling nating doctor? Mga UP grads? Pag binasa ang article may mga gumaling na.[emoji122] [emoji122] [emoji122]

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    Wala yang pagalingan etc, kasi hindi naman contest ito. Miski John Hopkin’s Medical Center pa yan or there in Thailand…if they find a way to fight this virus, the world will rejoice.

    We are hoping for the best, but yes, inconclusive pa yan.

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    Sa US din they used an experimental antiviral and it cured the patient (the 1st reported n-cov case in the US)

    --

    anyway, meron naman talaga gagaling sa sakit na yan may gamot o wala

    di naman pinapatay ng virus lahat ng nahawaan

    pero scary parin coz mabilis kumalat it can overwhelm hospitals specially in less developed countries

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    nasa abroad.
    joke....
    i hope!
    heh heh.

    seriously,
    our magagaling na mga duktors are out there still, in the field of ordinary human pilipino endeavor, quietly tending to the needs of the millions of ordinary filipinos. they do not cry for recognition, they do not wave victory flags, nor do they break into the news. they may not have ideal financial and logistical support, but they do their job, anyway. happily.
    while the public's attention is glued to the relatively few specialists ministering to the victims of the new coronavirus, our magagaling na mga duktor are out there, quietly plodding along, doing their noble calling, sans advertisement. that's where our magagaling na mga duktors, are.

    hey! the patent to "magagaling na duktor" is not held by UP. maraming magagaling na mga duktor, na hindi galing sa UP.

    to bring things into perspective.
    the new corona virus is not 100% fatal. early information indicates about 2-3% fatality rate. it's similar to the usual viral pneumonias that we are already plagued with.
    so, this early, recovery after being infected with the new coronavirus, appears to be the expected norm.
    it is actually the press, that is magnifying every single detail out of proportion, as it crawls out of the medical facility. (hey! i like the press! it makes for easier funding. heh heh.)

    so begs the question, "did the patient get better because of the drugs, or did patient get better despite of and with nary a care for, the drugs?"
    hence, the need for further research.
    wag muna ilabas ang bandila ng tagumpay.
    More on sarcasm naman yung UP ko doc. Future plan kasi ng bunso ko mag aral dyan. Sabi ko huwag na, kung kaya ko sa private, baka mapunta ka lang sa kalsada.

    BTT: For me, hindi nilalabas siguro ang bandila doc, least nagbigay tayo ng pag asa sa mga praning "isa na ako dun".

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Umpisahan na dapat ng mga companies mag move out ng china. Ilipat na nila sa iba mga factories nila. It will takes years but they better starts now.

    This is an opportunity for other SEA nations na makuha na yun business from China.

    This will not be the last time na magkaroon ng sakit galing sa China.

    Big companies must be hit hard now para magising na sila.


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    Hindi kaya ng ibang countries ang capability ng China as the world's factory. Many have tried to relocate, but eventually bumalik din. Only China have the skills and manpower to supply the demands of big companies. Even if, say Vietnam, will provide the manpower, but what about the raw mats? What about the supply of other parts needed to complete another part, and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Hindi kaya ng ibang countries ang capability ng China as the world's factory. Many have tried to relocate, but eventually bumalik din. Only China have the skills and manpower to supply the demands of big companies. Even if, say Vietnam, will provide the manpower, but what about the raw mats? What about the supply of other parts needed to complete another part, and so on.
    Slowly...hinde naman ilipat agad-agad. Bawasan dahan-dahan...saka dapat distribute na nila hinde pwedeng bulk sa China na lang.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketib View Post
    BTT: For me, hindi nilalabas siguro ang bandila doc, least nagbigay tayo ng pag asa sa mga praning "isa na ako dun".
    i understand.
    it is difficult for the layman to understand... medical science lingo...
    we don't understand it ourselves, sometimes.

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    The shade!

    -Oh and UP-grad here.

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    when the host disappears from the face of the earth, so does the disease.
    heh heh.

    but hey!
    i don't know how the morbidity-mortality statistics will stack out,
    but the atmosphere of fear is overpowering to some.
    i guess that's why we have to be over-cautious. because we don't really know the whole picture.

    these epidemics do have a way of disappearing for long periods of time... 1918 spanish flu..
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    I can imagine the infection rate if sa airplane mismo hinawakan yung bathroom knob...


    Coronavirus detected on doorknob in S. China's Guangzhou - CGTN


    Scientists in south China's Guangzhou last Sunday detected the nucleic acid of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) on a doorknob at the house of a patient diagnosed with the disease, according to an official for the Disease Control and Prevention Center in Guangzhou, the capital of Guangdong Province.

    Zhang Zhoubin, deputy director of Guangzhou Center for Disease Control and Prevention said that other areas prone to contamination include mobile phones, keyboards and faucet handles.

China Corona Virus Outbreak