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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Eh sino naman papalit sa kanya ngayon? Kung ako appoint, tatangihan ko.

    Para kang pumasok sa sarili mong libing


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    One of the usecretaries (hopefully a career one) will fill in as OIC until Digong appoints one.

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    Sana eto ung kapalit ni duque.

    China’s bodybuilding doctor gives update from FRONTLINE of fighting coronavirus — RT Sport News

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    Samapaloc closing in 100 cases...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Samapaloc closing in 100 cases...

    if they mass test sampaloc the number of positive cases they'll find will be shocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    for me ang pinaka malaking kasalanan ng china alam na nga nila may kumakalat na SARS-like pneumonia sa wuhan noong december 2019 hinayaan nila lumabas ng wuhan mga tao before lunar new year
    If only WHO listened to Taiwan's request for them to investigate the atypical pneumonia that they reported Nov-Dec last year. They emailed them last week of December, nagreply WHO after 3 weeks, saying it was 'just' pneumonia and nothing else.

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    Japan seems to be heading to the wrong direction... Indecisive government actions, No Mass Testing... Still insisting on test with symptoms. No forced lockdown... obedience on peer pressure . For those reasons, it is now spreading throughout the country.


    Japan to declare nationwide state of emergency as coronavirus spreads | The Japan Times
    Last edited by Monseratto; April 16th, 2020 at 05:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Japan seems to be going to the wrong direction... Indecisive government actions, No Mass Testing... Still insisting on test with symptoms. No forced lockdown... obedience on peer pressure . For those reasons, it is now spreading throughout the country.


    Japan to declare nationwide state of emergency as coronavirus spreads | The Japan Times
    not good

    many many elderly people in Japan

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    Nine prefectures running out of hospital beds | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News


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    More recoveries vs death again 2 days in a row...

    Last edited by Monseratto; April 16th, 2020 at 05:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    not good

    many many elderly people in Japan

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    Nine prefectures running out of hospital beds | NHK WORLD-JAPAN News

    I was in Japan during the first SARS outbreak in 2003. I remember never being terrified back then as I am now. and I was staying in an international dormitory with lost of international students coming in every 3 days.

    Kagoshima at least is still at zero, but Shizuoka is at 40% and Hokkaido at 20% occupied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    More recoveries vs death again 2 days in a row...

    Wonder how many of the recovered patients are non-smokers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Japan seems to be heading to the wrong direction... Indecisive government actions, No Mass Testing... Still insisting on test with symptoms. No forced lockdown... obedience on peer pressure . For those reasons, it is now spreading throughout the country.


    Japan to declare nationwide state of emergency as coronavirus spreads | The Japan Times
    Singapore naman susunod then S Korea naman 2nd wave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    if they mass test sampaloc the number of positive cases they'll find will be shocking
    Sa asymptomatic ilang weeks tumatagal ang virus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    if they mass test sampaloc the number of positive cases they'll find will be shocking
    I think expected na nila yan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Wonder how many of the recovered patients are non-smokers.

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    Nicotine may have it's day afterall. hehehe... with a pinch of salt.

    David Hockney claims smoking cigarettes could PROTECT against coronavirus | Daily Mail Online


    'This preliminary analysis does not support the argument that current smoking is a risk factor for hospitalization for COVID-19,' it reads.

    'Instead, these consistent observations, which are further emphasized by the low prevalence of current smoking among COVID-19 patients in the US (1.3 per cent), raises the hypothesis that nicotine may have beneficial effects on COVID-19.'

    The paper has not been reviewed by other scientists and admits that it is based on limited data, but says that nicotine and the coronavirus both interact with the same receptors on cells inside the lungs.

    It was done by Dr Konstantinos Farsalinos and Dr Anastasia Barbouni, from the University of West Attica in Athens, and Dr Raymond Niaura of New York University.

    They suggest that while the virus causes lung damage by depleting the numbers of those receptors - known as ACE-2 receptors - smoking can increase the number of them, reversing the effect.

    ACE-2 receptors, which are found on cells in the airways and lungs, have been said to work as the coronavirus's doorway into the body and to 'facilitate' infection.

    Therefore having more of them would seem to be a bad thing, but scientists say they have a protective effect in the lungs and low levels are linked to worse damage from viral infection.


    French scientist Professor Jean-François Delfraissy, who is leading a scientific council advising the country's government on COVID-19, said: 'We have something very special with tobacco.

    'We have found that the vast majority of serious cases are not smokers, as if (…) tobacco protects against this virus, via nicotine,' French news site Sud Ouest reported.

    The study by Dr Farsalinos adds by way of explanation: 'It has been observed that decreased ACE-2 availability contributes to lung injury and acute respiratory distress syndrome development.

    'Therefore, higher ACE-2 expression, while seemingly paradoxical, may protect against acute lung injury caused by COVID-19.'

    This is a disputed area of science - there are studies which show smoking can both increase and decrease the levels of ACE-2 available on someone's lung cells.
    Last edited by Monseratto; April 16th, 2020 at 06:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Nicotine may have it's day afterall. hehehe... with a pinch of salt.

    David Hockney claims smoking cigarettes could PROTECT against coronavirus | Daily Mail Online
    akin to saying that alcohol, by killing your left kidney, minimizes chances of kidney failure since you will only have one kidney to worry about. Or that compulsive gambling will protect you from financial loss, since you'll won't have any money to lose any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    akin to saying that alcohol, by killing your left kidney, minimizes chances of kidney failure since you will only have one kidney to worry about. Or that compulsive gambling will protect you from financial loss, since you'll won't have any money to lose any more.
    "anything to support a habit."
    heh heh.

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    Last edited by Monseratto; April 16th, 2020 at 06:40 PM.

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    personally,
    seeing the living conditions of our fellowmen in the depressed areas,
    i would expect significantly more coviders than what we are seeing...

    perhaps there is truth to the saying, "sanay sila sa sakit"...
    i'd be very interested in testing them for covid...

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    Italy sees a glimmer of hope in its high rate of coronavirus infections — more people whose antibodies can potentially be used to treat those still hospitalized | Business Insider

    Italy is looking for a silver lining, after being the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak in Europe with over 165,000 infections.

    According to CNN, the country that now has the highest death toll is hoping to use antibodies from those who recovered from COVID-19 to treat those still battling the virus.

    A doctor told CNN that the high number of infections means there are more people who can donate plasma.

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China Corona Virus Outbreak