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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    mas konte na ngayon naoospital dahil sa covid

    lalo mas konte nasa icu

    lalo mas konte namamatay
    the number of patients, vis a vis the number of hands, is not the question.
    sa totoo lang, "hire-a-hand" is readily available.
    it's the allow-ability that's the point. some centers simply do not allow other humen in the treatment area.

    these people may not be conscious, as to appreciate a real hand.
    it is the health provider's belief that somehow, for the stuporous patients, the feeling of a caring hand is there, even if it's a fake hand, and it is a comforting feeling.
    "faith."

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    it's just weird Deestone posting something from more than a year ago


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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    it's just weird Deestone posting something from more than a year ago

    there's nothing weird about caring for others.
    if one feels strongly for it, does the original date of publication, matter?
    personally, i appreciate his post.

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    #37464
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    imagine pumayag mga tao to be separated from loved ones

    to let loved ones die alone

    tapos walang burol

    coz of some protocol

    it was a cruel time

    di na mauulit yan

    di na papayag mga tao

    They separated their relatives so that they won't know what "very questionable medicines" they are giving the patient...

    You must know daming kalokohan sa US at UK mga Doctors noon, there were questionable drugs that Doctors gave to their Covid-19 patients like Midazolam then placed them on Ventitators. Why would Doctors give Midazolam which has a side effect of slowing the breathing of a person?



    A Good Death? The Midazolam Murders

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    They separated their relatives so that they won't know what "very questionable medicines" they are giving the patient...
    they separated the relatives, because they did not want the infection to spread?
    at least, that's what i understand.
    Last edited by dr. d; August 21st, 2022 at 07:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post

    You must know daming kalokohan sa US at UK mga Doctors noon, there were questionable drugs that Doctors gave to their Covid-19 patients like Midazolam then placed them on Ventitators. Why would Doctors give Midazolam which has a side effect of slowing the breathing of a person?



    A Good Death? The Midazolam Murders


    but my interest is piqued.
    panoorin nga.
    i'll get back to you folks.

    back.
    it was largely laymen talking.
    the other side, i.e., caregiver authority's points of view, were not... available

    doing a quick google,
    the midazolam and morphine combination do have usefulness in certain situations.

    drugs can have more than one effect.
    one effect if given this dose,
    another effect if given another dose,
    and even something else, given in combination with other drugs.
    without knowing what specific medical conditions were present at that time, it is hard for me to say yeigh or neigh.

    i was having difficulty following the video.
    one reason was because of the the accent,
    another was probably because the speaking people were laymen, who spoke their thoughts from their point of view.

    hearing only one side,
    it can sound like a conspiracy.
    Last edited by dr. d; August 21st, 2022 at 08:14 PM.

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    #37467
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    they separated the relatives, because they did not want the infection to spread.
    at that time, not much was known about how the virus could spread.
    Yes, doc tama rin sinabi mo. Pero there are really "questionable medicines" Doctors were giving because that is what the higher ups are telling them to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if the doctors thought the drug would help, why not!
    and that's why they placed them on ventilators, so's they don't stop breathing.

    for some reason, some folks think that placing a patient on a ventilator, was the kiss of death.
    well, it just ain't so.
    "survivors of ventilators" just don't warrant media coverage, because the event is just so very common. i mean, in my workplace, "surviving a ventilator" is the majority case.

    You must know Doc, Midazolam slows the breathing of a person. This is what was given to Covid patients mainly in the UK. Why would Doctors give Midazolam to a Covid patient who already suffers from difficulty in breathing?

    Midazolam is the drug of choice in euthanasia by the way...

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    #37469
    Aside from questionable Midazolam, another drug that many Doctor whistleblowers are complaining is the drug Remdesivir which was mostly given in US Hospitals...

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    #37470
    3 Years Worth of Midazolam Suddenly Gone - "I Think [People] Were Being Murdered"

    https://rumble.com/v12elbi-3-years-w...-murdered.html

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    Athrunzala

    akala ko pa naman you'd understand what i was saying

    imagine pumayag mga tao to be separated from loved ones

    to let loved ones die alone

    tapos walang burol

    coz of some protocol

    it was a cruel time

    di na mauulit yan

    di na papayag mga tao
    pre-covid pag pinasok sa opsital ang tao tapos pinagbawalan may kasama tapos namatay walang tanong tanong cremate agad

    papayag ba ang pamilya?

    that's totally unacceptable

    demanda ang aabutin ng ospital

    o isusumbong kay tulfo

    but coz of covid fearmongering by the powers-that-be / the scientific & medical establishment, people were convinced to accept something previously unacceptable

    say goodbye to your loved one on an ipad

    di mo na makita uli

    just acceptance, no outrage from anyone

    that demonstrated to governments they can make people accept anything basta with adequate brainwashing

    and they can do that again

    gets?
    Last edited by uls; August 21st, 2022 at 08:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Athrunzala

    akala ko pa naman you'd understand what i was saying



    pre-covid pag pinasok sa opsital ang tao tapos pinagbawalan may kasama tapos namatay walang tanong tanong cremate agad

    papayag ba ang pamilya?

    that's totally unacceptable

    demanda ang aabutin ng ospital

    o isusumbong kay tulfo

    but coz of covid fearmongering by the powers-that-be / the scientific & medical establishment, people were convinced to accept something previously unacceptable

    say goodbye to your loved one on an ipad

    di mo na makita uli

    just acceptance, no outrage from anyone

    that demonstrated to governments they can make people accept anything basta with adequate brainwashing

    and they can do that again

    gets?

    if there's no pressure from the populace to better themselves, yes , it is very tempting for the government to do it again

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    Athrunzala

    pag alam ng gobyerno parating na ang tag gutom

    ikokondisyon nila ang populasyon nila na ok lang makaramdam ng gutom


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    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    You must know Doc, Midazolam slows the breathing of a person. This is what was given to Covid patients mainly in the UK. Why would Doctors give Midazolam to a Covid patient who already suffers from difficulty in breathing?

    Midazolam is the drug of choice in euthanasia by the way...
    ... to sedate the patient? so they won't fight the ventilator machine?
    i'm not an anaesthesiology expert, so i don't really know the quirks of the practice.
    googling, the medical literature are way beyond my head.
    Last edited by dr. d; August 21st, 2022 at 08:25 PM.

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    #37475
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    if there's no pressure from the populace to better themselves, yes , it is very tempting for the government to do it again
    if the population doesn't demonstrate outrage towards something the government proposes or implements, they'll be tempted to do it again and go even further

    it was unthinkable before March 2020 to make people not leave their homes for months

    it was unthinkable to shut down the global economy

    they saw it can be done

    watch them do it again for some other reason

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    #37476
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Athrunzala

    pag alam ng gobyerno parating na ang tag gutom

    ikokondisyon nila ang populasyon nila na ok lang makaramdam ng gutom


    Oo, nakakita rin ako ng mga ganyang same Articles sa Mainstream News about "Feeling Hungry is actually good for your Health"

    This is after I read 3 months ago "Eating bugs is good for you" haha!

    "They have to tell us first what they will do before they will do it"

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    #37477
    Quote Originally Posted by Athrunzala View Post
    Yes, doc tama rin sinabi mo. Pero there are really "questionable medicines" Doctors were giving because that is what the higher ups are telling them to do.
    i'm a doctor.
    i assure you, no government is dictating to me, or even suggesting, what medicines to give.

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    #37478
    Just a moment...

    Hotel Jen permanently closes on Sept. 1....

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    #37479
    sabi sa news bumababa na daw ulit veeerus. Eh hindi naman tumaas vaccination ah. Ang Philippines eh napakababa compare sa countries na mRNA tinurok.

    ang bwenas talaga ng pinas by not following the medical community.

    as always the most consistent tsikoters this pandemic = unvaxxx, walang ligo, walang rubbing alcohol, walang ka-effort-effort, walang lagnat

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    #37480
    How could we be so sure na hindi ka lang umaamin dyan. Baka na covid ka na hindi ka lang nag test kaya di mo alam

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