China Corona Virus Outbreak

[shadow]

Ito yun nakita ko follow ni *uls

Natural immunity is 9x less than vaccine immunity.





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[dr. d]

Ito yun nakita ko follow ni *uls

Natural immunity is 9x less than vaccine immunity.





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... although natural immunity is still preferable to zero immunity,
i certainly would not recommend intentionally getting infected, to acquire it.
instead, let's get vaxxed.
let's DOH it!

it also means that those previously infected but had since recovered, still stand a significant chance at getting re-infected.
medical literature is full of examples of second, third, and even a fourth viral experience.
our own colleague, got it, twice, over a span of four months. whether it was the same strain or not, it was not determined.

[Monseratto]

COVID Reinfections Have Jumped 3% Since May | Public Radio Tulsa

The Oklahoma State Department of Health is now tracking people who catch COVID a second time.

OSDH considers a case a reinfection if it comes at least 90 days after the first one.

The latest state epidemiology report shows the coronavirus has reinfected almost 4,700 vaccinated and unvaccinated Oklahomans so far this month, and reinfections have risen more than 300% since May.

Dr. Jennifer Clark who is part of OSU’s Project ECHO says the Delta variant is responsible for the big rise in repeat cases.

“You can see how much that has jumped during the Delta surge,” said Clark.

Continuing to track the numbers may lead to more answers about natural immunity after a person has COVID, especially as we move through more stages in the pandemic.

“It’s just another trend line that we can watch to kind of see these kind of endemic pop-ups as we move into that state throughout the latter part of the acute pandemic,” said Clark.

The report also shows breakthrough infections for fully vaccinated people have jumped from 503 in May to more than 9,400 in September.

While the number of reinfections is lower, the rate of repeat cases is double the rate of breakthrough infections.

[uls]

COVID Reinfections Have Jumped 3??% Since May | Public Radio Tulsa

months ago there was the narrative that breakthrough infections are rare

it's obvious by now it's not

[shadow]

months ago there was the narrative that breakthrough infections are rare

it's obvious by now it's not

Narrative lang ba yun? Baka naman totoo for the earlier variants and then delta came and changed all the narratives.


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[uls]

Narrative lang ba yun? Baka naman totoo for the earlier variants and then delta came and changed all the narratives.


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noong paumpisa palang ang delta wave sa US

may mga nabasa ako articles saying breakthroughs are rare

[dr. d]

noong paumpisa palang ang delta wave sa US

may mga nabasa ako articles saying breakthroughs are rare

brakethroughs are expectedly rare at the start, when there are not that many cases or new strains or variants to speak of.

[uls]

when they said "breakthroughs are rare" they sounded so sure

so sure that their assumptions were used to form policy

US CDC said pwede na daw di mag mask mga fully vaccinated

then as breakthroughs increased pina-mask uli mga tao

[dr. d]

when they said "breakthroughs are rare" they sounded so sure

so sure that their assumptions were used to form policy

US CDC said pwede na daw di mag mask mga fully vaccinated

then as breakthroughs increased pina-mask uli mga tao

"it probably seemed the logical outcome, given the information available at that time."
it's the first time we are experiencing something like this. we are all guessing at what the next development will be.

[Yatta]

"it probably seemed the logical outcome, given the information available at that time."
it's the first time we are experiencing something like this. we are all guessing at what the next development will be.

Thats how science works. You conclude based on the available data. Now as more data comes in and if it refutes the previous hypothesis then be prepared to change your conclusion and admit it. After all, a hundred years ago they said tobacco and cocaine were good for you.

[Monseratto]

Sana they included what vaccine brands were used...

[uls]

sorry i need to explain further

covid is very political sa US

it was assumed that fully vaxxed people cannot catch the virus and cannot spread the virus

gov't said fully vaxxed people can go around without mask

then binawi nila

ang point ko gov't needs to be careful

yes i know that's how science works

but it's not scientists that form policy

gov't listens to scientists then form policy

knowing how politically charged the environment is, gov't needs to be extra careful

coz this is what happens when gov't flip flops

[uls]

because when half your country is already skeptical of vaccines / refuse to get vaxxed

policy errors make things worse

like this

when your country is THE manufacturer of the 2 most in demand covid vaccines in the world

but you can't convince half your population to get vaccinated






yeah i know how science works, thanks

[shadow]

Mga trumpist lang nagpapalaki ng issue sa flip flopping.

Wala naman ako nakikita masama sa pagbawi dahil it means they are listening to scientists and experts.

Nag based lang sila sa kung anong data meron sila then nagbago so kailangan din nila baguhin.


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[uls]

but the important thing is the end result

[viper888]

A lot of governments are flip flopping

Even good ones like Singapore are moving back and forth with their restrictions

They just flipped back even if they are 80% vaccinated


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[uls]

in the case of singapore, citizens have very high trust in their gov't

and covid is not a political issue in singapore

ibang iba sa US

[ale828]

But if its true then Our governments flip flopping is acceptable since most other gov't in the world is doing the same thing.

[shadow]

But if its true then Our governments flip flopping is acceptable since most other gov't in the world is doing the same thing.

Flip flopping based on data and science, hinde dahil sa kapritso lang ng engot


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[uls]

citizens that have very high trust in their gov't (Taiwan, Singapore etc) ok lang the gov't flip flops once in a while

pero when half your country already hates the other half

and the president is viewed as illegit (stolen election)

fuggedaboutit