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    #32122
    so kailangan i-shut down ang buong economy hanggang lumuwag mga ospital

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    #32123
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    so kailangan i-shut down ang buong economy hanggang lumuwag mga ospital
    Akala ko ba sabi mo hospital capacity ang matrix mo?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Witcher View Post
    i need clarification.

    are we talking about the availability of serviceable hospital beds to cater to covid as well as the more traditional patients?
    puno ba ang mga kama?

    or are we talking about the hospital's ability to decongest the de-facto entrance door to the hospital, i.e., the emergency room?
    mahaba ba ang pila sa ER dahil kulang personnel to do the patient evaluation?
    or mahaba ang pila dahil hindi na maka-admit ng bagong patients ang hospital dahil puno na ang mga serviceable beds nila?

    do these hospitals report on their serviceable beds only?
    or do they also include beds that are perennially un-occupied because they lack personnel and equipment to cater to the patients that will occupy these beds? because if they do, then these hospitals will always report that they have available beds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Akala ko ba sabi mo hospital capacity ang matrix mo?


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    well yes dati sinabi ko they should use hospital capacity as the gauge, not number of cases

    pero...

    COVID Hospitalization Numbers Can Be Misleading - The Atlantic

    Our Most Reliable Pandemic Number Is Losing Meaning

    From the start, COVID hospitalizations have served as a vital metric for tracking the risks posed by the disease. Last winter, this magazine described it as “the most reliable pandemic number,” while Vox quoted the cardiologist Eric Topol as saying that it’s “the best indicator of where we are.” On the one hand, death counts offer finality, but they’re a lagging signal and don’t account for people who suffered from significant illness but survived. Case counts, on the other hand, depend on which and how many people happen to get tested. Presumably, hospitalization numbers provide a more stable and reliable gauge of the pandemic’s true toll, in terms of severe disease. But a new, nationwide study of hospitalization records, released as a preprint today (and not yet formally peer reviewed), suggests that the meaning of this gauge can easily be misinterpreted—and that it has been shifting over time.

    If you want to make sense of the number of COVID hospitalizations at any given time, you need to know how sick each patient actually is. Until now, that’s been almost impossible to suss out. The federal government requires hospitals to report every patient who tests positive for COVID, yet the overall tallies of COVID hospitalizations, made available on various state and federal dashboards and widely reported on by the media, do not differentiate based on severity of illness. Some patients need extensive medical intervention, such as getting intubated. Others require supplemental oxygen or administration of the steroid dexamethasone. But there are many COVID patients in the hospital with fairly mild symptoms, too, who have been admitted for further observation on account of their comorbidities, or because they reported feeling short of breath. Another portion of the patients in this tally are in the hospital for something unrelated to COVID, and discovered that they were infected only because they were tested upon admission. How many patients fall into each category has been a topic of much speculation. In August, researchers from Harvard Medical School, Tufts Medical Center, and the Veterans Affairs Healthcare System decided to find out.

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    #32126
    mahina ang hospital capacity ng pinas

    pre-covid era madalas may instances wala available room

    mga nasa ER naghihintay ng kwarto

    PH hospitals get easily overwhelmed

    -

    in normal times araw araw may heart attack dinadala sa ER

    that didn't change

    araw araw meron parin na-ha-heart attack not due to covid

    ngayon lahat ng dinadala sa ER sina-swab no matter what reason

    pag nagkataon positive, ung heart attack case naging covid case

    magulo
    Last edited by uls; September 18th, 2021 at 09:38 AM.

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    Hospital group ‘gravely concerned’ over Covid-19 misinformation

    In recent days a Covid-19 patient was encouraged to leave Letterkenny General Hospital by an activist, who filmed the interaction in the hospital, with the video later posted on social media.

    In the video, the activist said he was “rescuing” the man, and falsely claimed treatment in the hospital would “kill” the patient.

    Medical staff can be heard in the video warning the patient about the risks of leaving the hospital, stating they were worried about his condition.

    One staff member told the man that leaving the hospital would risk “endangering” his life. “It’s a very difficult disease that you have, and I’m not lying to you, you could die, but this could be your best chance in the hospital,” the staff member told the patient.

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    #32128
    How come I don't have a record. I was among the first batch to get vaccine (after A1)

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    Last edited by _Cathy_; September 22nd, 2021 at 08:48 PM.

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    Higher dose and longer period between doses...

    Moderna's vaccine is the most effective, but Pfizer and J&J also protect well, CDC-led study says - CNN

    A head-to-head study of all three authorized coronavirus vaccines in the United States finds the Moderna vaccine is slightly more effective than Pfizer's in real-life use in keeping people out of the hospital, and Johnson & Johnson's Janssen vaccine comes in third, but still provides 71% protection.

    Pfizer's vaccine provided 88% protection against hospitalization, and Moderna's was 93% effective.

    They found that the biggest difference between the vaccine made by Moderna and Pfizer/BioNtech's vaccine was driven by a decline that started about four months after people were fully vaccinated with Pfizer's vaccine.

    "Differences in vaccine effectiveness between the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine might be due to higher mRNA content in the Moderna vaccine, differences in timing between doses (3 weeks for Pfizer-BioNTech versus 4 weeks for Moderna), or possible differences between groups that received each vaccine that were not accounted for in the analysis," the team wrote.

    "Vaccine effectiveness for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 91% at 14 -120 days after receipt of the second vaccine dose but declined significantly to 77% at more than 120 days," the team wrote.
    Pfizer's and Moderna's vaccines both use genetic material called messenger RNA to deliver immunity, but they use differing doses and slightly different formulations. The Janssen vaccine uses an inactivated common cold virus called adenovirus -- a viral vector -- to carry genetic instructions into the body.

    "A single dose of the Janssen viral vector vaccine had comparatively lower anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibody response and vaccine effectiveness against COVID-19 hospitalizations," the team said. "Understanding differences in vaccine effectiveness by vaccine product can guide individual choices and policy recommendations regarding vaccine boosters. All FDA-approved or authorized COVID-19 vaccines provide substantial protection against COVID-19 hospitalization."

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    Also in Israel, Pfizer is the only vaccine for 12-17 yo...

    The Moderna vaccine is only approved for use in individuals over the age of 18, meaning any youth 12-17 who wants to get the jab will still require Pfizer.
    Israel to begin ‘widely’ administering Moderna COVID vaccine on Sunday - The Jerusalem Post

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    Kulelat pa rin...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Kulelat pa rin...

    dun sa 17,348,671 fully vaccinated people ng Pinas...

    kunwari walang sinovac

    walang binili ang gobyerno, walang donation from china

    ilan nalang ang fully vaccinated?

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    Para kay Kags...

    LETTER OF APPEAL TO BUSINESS OWNERS AGAINST DISCRIMINATION & COERCION

    1. Concerned Citizens to download and print the letter.
    2. Indicate Name of Establishment, Name of Owner (optional). HAND WRITTEN IS OKAY.
    3. Concerned citizens to hand the letter to owners of restos, shops, stores, salons, cars, clinics, spas, gyms, offices, grocery stores, etc
    4. Wear your warm smile.
    5. Pray as you leave.


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    PH welcomes 961, new Moderna vaccine doses | ABS-CBN News

    The Philippines on Saturday received 961,000 doses of Moderna's COVID-19 vaccine, raising to 5 million the total shots shipped by the drugmaker to the country, available data showed.
    The vaccine doses, of which 712,800 will go to the national government and 248,000 to the private sector, arrived at Ninoy Aquino International Airport at about 3:45 p.m.
    more moderna!

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    #32136
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Kulelat pa rin...

    I passed by three vaccination centers (different LGUs) in metro manila last week. There was a big large sign in the front saying "By Appointment only, No walk in"
    But linalangaw yung vaccination site. During that time i only saw 1 or 2 patients getting vaccinated. seats where all empty, the HCW are all chit chatting.
    Great for social distancing but not for statistics sake.

    What causes this low vaccination rate? lack of better vaccine? bad logistics/scheduling when it comes to the LGU's? Hesitancy of the public to get vaccinated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    I passed by three vaccination centers (different LGUs) in metro manila last week. There was a big large sign in the front saying "By Appointment only, No walk in"
    But linalangaw yung vaccination site. During that time i only saw 1 or 2 patients getting vaccinated. seats where all empty, the HCW are all chit chatting.
    Great for social distancing but not for statistics sake.

    What causes this low vaccination rate? lack of better vaccine? bad logistics/scheduling when it comes to the LGU's? Hesitancy of the public to get vaccinated?
    Katamaran, hindi naman daw pala sila babarilin.

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    #32138
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Kulelat pa rin...

    Sa Cavite, panay ngayaw ni Remulla, 3 months na raw walang supply ng bakuna from national government. He is asking for more vaccine or let the LGU buy their own vaccine. I feel there's a political background with this. Matalas kasi dila nitong sa Remulla against national government, maybe admin is seeing him as opposition Kaya sinasakal ang supply ng bakuna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    Sa Cavite, panay ngayaw ni Remulla, 3 months na raw walang supply ng bakuna from national government. He is asking for more vaccine or let the LGU buy their own vaccine. I feel there's a political background with this. Matalas kasi dila nitong sa Remulla against national government, maybe admin is seeing him as opposition Kaya sinasakal ang supply ng bakuna.
    Does the Admin think that by doing so, they are going to dent the reputation of Remulla? It will backfire on them. Caviteņos love Jonvic.


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    #32140
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    More and more moderna to come!

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