airguns/airsoftguns/gasguns

**dieselNUBI** · October 9th, 2003 11:30 AM

Originally posted by mikey177
yung hula ko lang ay mas malakas yung pneumatic type kasi hanggang nakaka-pump ka pa ay madadagdagan mo yung charge ng hangin sa reservoir nya. i would think that the web sites of airgun manufacturers would include specifications for the velocities of their products. check mo na lang po. ano po ba yung intended purpose nya at gusto nyo ng mas malakas? casual plinking? target practice and competition? pest control?

check out Hahn Manila, PB Dionisio (along Roces Ave.), and Ultra Systems (5th level SM Megamall), they have good selections of airguns to choose from. am not sure about the licensing requirements though.

more on pest control! ive seen rats as big as cats sa amin eh. its time to do some actions na! kaya i want more firing power.

**mikey177** · October 9th, 2003 11:46 AM

for pest control, i 'd suggest a CO2 powered air rifle in .22 cal.

at least with the CO2, you can get a quick follow-up shot if you were able to hit the rat but not kill it with the first shot. kung pneumatic kasi, under stress ka na after the first shot kaya baka mataranta ka sa pag-pump for a followup shot.

mas gusto ko yung .22 imbes na .177 for pest control kasi mas mabigat yung pellet ng kaunti at mas malaki yung diameter. i've tried shooting rats with a .177 pneumatic and believe me, if you don't get a head shot or penetrate deep enough to hit a vital organ, tatawanan ka lang ng daga :dead:

YMMV.

**logbook** · October 9th, 2003 01:28 PM

dagdag ko lang po sa sinabi ni sir mikey177...

the choice of ammunition could also be helpful....ang pagkaka-alam ko 3 type yun e (flat, rounded, at pointed).

plus also try considering compressed air rifles/pistols against CO2. AFAIK mas consistent ang compressed air kse hindi cya masyado affected ng temperature against the CO2 guns... not sure though, pa confirm na lang :D

**dieselNUBI** · October 9th, 2003 10:59 PM

nag punta nako sa PB Dionisio along ROCES AVE.>

well, konti lang mapag pipilian when u hav a budget.... so ill try to look * other shops.... sa Hann ba naghahanap ng papers pa?

**nelany** · October 9th, 2003 11:20 PM

Originally posted by dieselNUBI
ito ba un all black? short handle w/ extention?

how much bili mo sa scope? CO2 ba ito? ano pwedeng bala para dito?

may mura daw sa raon? try ko kaya tumingin dun?

dieselNuBI, yes ito yung short handle with extension. Meron din silang standard na full black (executive type). Yung binili ko ay yung standard lang. Mahirap gamitin yung di folding.

CO2 ito at 0.22 pellet ang bala. Pwede ring itong iconvert para pang .22 cal na bala. Yung scope few ~ 2K ang bili ko (look very professional). Malakas itong airgun na ito compare the ibang available sa market.

**nelany** · October 9th, 2003 11:29 PM

Kung daga lang ang target more than enough yung CO2 na airgun. Thru and thru ang tama ng daga at disable agad. Kung gusto mo pa ay gamitan mo ng double action na bala para pag tama ay puputok pa ito.
My experience sa pneumatic pump ay mas mahina ito kaysa CO2 kahit na anong dami ng pump mo.

**dieselNUBI** · October 9th, 2003 11:30 PM

Originally posted by nelany
dieselNuBI, yes ito yung short handle with extension. Meron din silang standard na full black (executive type). Yung binili ko ay yung standard lang. Mahirap gamitin yung di folding.

CO2 ito at 0.22 pellet ang bala. Pwede ring itong iconvert para pang .22 cal na bala. Yung scope few ~ 2K ang bili ko (look very professional). Malakas itong airgun na ito compare the ibang available sa market.

4K only?
mukhang ok since this is way cheaper than crosman or rogunz. pero CO2 fed na sya.

btw, anong papers binigay mo ? para pwde ka makabili sa mall?

**dieselNUBI** · October 9th, 2003 11:53 PM

http://www.tobys.com/sports.asp?spor...archtype=sport

is this the one? baket parang mura mga nito?

**mikey177** · October 10th, 2003 01:31 PM

dieselNUBI::: dude, mura talaga mga locally-made airguns like Armscor and Alloy compared to foreign brands, pero kung velocity and penetration ang pag-uusapan, maganda yung performance nila kasi CO2 yung powerplant nila.

logbook::: yup, mas consistent yung performance ng compressed air airguns vs. CO2 airguns, lalo na pag malaki yung variance sa temperature sa environment mo, pero like the guy said, di naman nya gagamitin sa compet kaya ok na rin yung CO2 for his intended purpose. Tsaka masakit sa bulsa yung mga compressed air airguns like Feinwerkbau diba? If you choose CO2, just make sure you have a full charge before you go mouse hunting

**sup** · October 10th, 2003 02:07 PM

ayaw mo mag .22 cal na rifle? pwede mo rin itong kabitan ng scope & silencer!! hehe! yung friend ko na taga iloilo binabaril nial yung mga bumbilya sa labas sa isang mall malapit sa kanila,hehe! parati raw nagtataka yung guard bakit ubos lahat ng bumbilya dun. lalang..

anyway, regarding scale airguns (battery operated, na may pellets) my friends hava a team and attend jamborees at subic and coregidor. war games ito that last the whole night. sinasali nga ako pero nung sinabi nila presyo ng baril e parang totoong baril na rin binili mo (mga half the price naman). tried the m4 of my friend and its 1:1 scale na rin. mukhang totoo pero magaang lang siya & its accurate too (dont know lang up to ilang meters naka-zero yun).

mikey, pag cat hunting pwede ba co2? mga 5-10 cats papatayin ko kasi lahat ng kotse namin gasgas na ang paint!? bwisit.. no offense to cat lovers pero those cats are pests na rin to us. peace!

tagal ko na hindi nagpopost dito sa tsikot! kamiss din.. :D