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    naniniwala ba kayo na meron health benefit talaga?

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    A family member has leg ulcer (non healing wound). She is not diabetic though. It's very high maintenance because of the wound care. Her doctor referred her to another MD surgeon who does acupuncture. I didn't know that MDs are now performing acupuncture in the hospital...

    I'm still hesitant but my Mom said to give it a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    A family member has leg ulcer (non healing wound). She is not diabetic though. It's very high maintenance because of the wound care. Her doctor referred her to another MD surgeon who does acupuncture. I didn't know that MDs are now performing acupuncture in the hospital...

    I'm still hesitant but my Mom said to give it a try.
    yes there are, and yes they do.
    "dept of alternative medicine". some, tongue in cheek, call it the "department of last resort".


    i was not trained for it, so i do not believe in it too well.
    which is totally different from saying, "it don't work".

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    yes there are, and yes they do.
    "dept of alternative medicine". some, tongue in cheek, call it the "department of last resort".

    i was not trained for it, so i do not believe in it too well.
    So that means if the condition is bad na I hope that's not the case for us

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    So that means if the condition is bad na I hope that's not the case for us

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    not necessarily! it's just... an "alternative".
    but that's all that i can safely say.
    "i am not trained..."

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    if "alternative" med worked then it wouldn't be alternative anymore it would be REAL

    accupuncture has some proven use in pain management. other than that's it's about as effective as prayers

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    I wonder why MDs are getting into acupuncture

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I wonder why MDs are getting into acupuncture

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    pera

    they go where the money is. not all doctors are successful at being real doctors

    and some just wanna take it easy. just stick some needles in. attach electrodes. voila. wala nang isip-isip

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    the label "alternative" was coined by physicians trained in the traditional western methods. the label did not come from the chinese or whoever started it on this planet.
    point of view lang, is all.

    and yes, a number of real MDs do practice acupuncture. they have decided that it has its uses.
    "it is difficult to argue against success."

    and if one realizes just how old chinese civilization is, and how old western medicine is...

    consider: we know nothing about human civilization 50,000 years ago.
    Thanks doctor for making me feel a little better. Our family member can have surgery but this is what we are trying to avoid, her doctors also said tignan muna kung pwede hindi i surgery.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vodka View Post
    pera

    they go where the money is. not all doctors are successful at being real doctors

    and some just wanna take it easy. just stick some needles in. attach electrodes. voila. wala nang isip-isip
    It blows my mind because this MD is a surgeon. Our primary MD is her wife (dermatologist) so the PF is free. The leg ulcer (non healing wound) is taking too slow to close up so she referred us to her husband who does acupuncture. The upkeep for this leg ulcer is extremely expensive so she is also concerned about our expenses. I was surprised that the surgeon husband who did the acupuncture did not make up pay for PF also. He is very enthusiastic about the results of his acupuncture patients and even showed me pictures. I am still skeptical.

    My Mom and I had a fight because she wants me to continue with the acupuncture for our family member. Pero ako, I not enthusiastic about it.

    Pinaghahanap nga kami ng lintang ilog because that is supposed to improve the circulation in the legs daw. But I did watch a docu na they use linta for burn victims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Thanks doctor for making me feel a little better. Our family member can have surgery but this is what we are trying to avoid, her doctors also said tignan muna kung pwede hindi i surgery.



    It blows my mind because this MD is a surgeon. Our primary MD is her wife (dermatologist) so the PF is free. The leg ulcer (non healing wound) is taking too slow to close up so she referred us to her husband who does acupuncture. The upkeep for this leg ulcer is extremely expensive so she is also concerned about our expenses. I was surprised that the surgeon husband who did the acupuncture did not make up pay for PF also. He is very enthusiastic about the results of his acupuncture patients and even showed me pictures. I am still skeptical.

    My Mom and I had a fight because she wants me to continue with the acupuncture for our family member. Pero ako, I not enthusiastic about it.

    Pinaghahanap nga kami ng lintang ilog because that is supposed to improve the circulation in the legs daw. But I did watch a docu na they use linta for burn victims.
    well, there is this fairly recent method... but i'll guarantee you, mahihimatay kayo.
    fly larvae.
    they eat only dead tissue, leaving viable tissues alone. completely painless.
    it really works! there are even companies, growing these medical-grade larvae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    well, there is this fairly recent method... but i'll guarantee you, mahihimatay kayo.
    fly larvae.
    they eat only dead tissue, leaving viable tissues alone. completely painless.
    it really works! there are even companies, growing these medical-grade larvae.
    Is this done in Manila?

    The doctor said in the US they really use leeches, "medical leech" daw Naisip ko tuloy, sana nasa US kami, so much more options.

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