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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    why there are elites who support du30?

    di niyo maexplain?

    it's something called elite overproduction

    and that precedes the collapse of societies



    too many elites?

    yes



    what can happen?



    this



    this



    this



    the endgame



    get it?
    Interesting theory, first time I’ve read about it

    On the other hand, how do you counter it?

    Rapid economic expansion?

    Or limiting university graduates to just 1/3 the population? Like Singapore School’s Out: How Singapore Keeps University Reserved for the Elites - The News Lens International Edition


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    There is a new script circulating among the immoral paid hacks of the Duterte administration. These are the same paid hacks who I see some of my bereft of brains military acquaintances follow and whose drivel they had been sharing during the height of the red tagging campaign. This new script is an outrageous lie that Noynoy was intentionally left to die. There really is no evil greater than the Duterte administration and its supporters in this country we call home. For them to stoop to this level of disgusting falsehood is just a mirror of how putrid their hearts and souls are. I thought that treachery was the lowest that they could go, but to attack the grieving sisters and insinuate that they just left their brother to die has the mark of Satan branded all over these abominations of Duterte.
    - Jose Antonio Custodio

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    There is a new script circulating among the immoral paid hacks of the Duterte administration. These are the same paid hacks who I see some of my bereft of brains military acquaintances follow and whose drivel they had been sharing during the height of the red tagging campaign. This new script is an outrageous lie that Noynoy was intentionally left to die. There really is no evil greater than the Duterte administration and its supporters in this country we call home. For them to stoop to this level of disgusting falsehood is just a mirror of how putrid their hearts and souls are. I thought that treachery was the lowest that they could go, but to attack the grieving sisters and insinuate that they just left their brother to die has the mark of Satan branded all over these abominations of Duterte.
    - Jose Antonio Custodio
    I think it's this "article". Honestly, I have the same questions as this guy. What I can't fathom is why his family allowed him to skip 2 dialysis sessions. My Mom and I had an argument about it. I told my Mom, I don't care if my brother gets mad at me or hates me for it, but I am FORCING him to take a dialysis. I am not going anywhere until he gets the treatment he needs. I am sure they all know that a skipped dialysis session could mean death. I know very little about medicine and I am aware that the body will be poisoned if a person with kidney failure doesn't do dialysis. I was also shocked that the night before Pnoy died he requested for sinful foods for lunch (sisig, crispy pata and burger for lunch for someone whose kidney is failing?) Yun ang mahirap kasi he has no family with him and his staff cannot force him to do anything. Also, I don't know why he did not have a nurse checking on him every X number of hours knowing he is in bad shape?

    Another thing I can't understand is why the cremation and short wake? I know it's none of my business pero kasi with Ninoy and Cory they allowed the public to see them one last time. I feel so bad because Pnoy was too young to die. If only a President could have 2 terms, I would have happily voted for him.

    BTW I am against the MALICE in this article written by a Dutertard

    WAS PNOY LEFT TO DIE?
    By Jun Abines

    The Yellows and Media are now starting their favorite game. Every story and statement about Pnoy's death is either aimed in making the current Administration look bad or painting the Yellows as the good guys.

    But no one seems interested of knowing why and how Pnoy died. The man have serious renal problem and diabetes. But how come he was allowed to skip dialysis twice? How come no nurse or doctor attending him when his health status was very, very critical?

    There was an interview of Pnoy's driver narrating what happened the night before up to the moment he was discovered dead on his chair. The story painted Pnoy's death as peaceful. But it ignored the fact that no health professional was present the very week Pnoy died.

    Imagine yourself being a former President. You have several siblings and friends all super rich and powerful. You are very sick. Yet no one was there at your most critical moment of survival. No one cares to detail a nurse or doctor to look after you. No one checked if you were able to get the life-saving dialysis sessions. You died alone on your room. Sitting dead and cold on your chair all night. Only to be discovered next morning by a maid, a driver and bodyguard.

    That was not a peaceful death. That was a tragic death for a rich and powerful former President. Thousands of flowers, songs of praises and eloquent eulogies on your tomb will not make up for it.

    Where were his families? Where were his best friends? Where were the nuns, the priests and bishops? Where were these people people who showed him love and adorations in front of camera but were gone at his most vulnerable moments?

    If someone only cared, Pnoy may still be breathing. Skipping two sessions of Dialysis is not an accident. No family member or health care professional would allow that to happen. No loving person would allow a very sick dear one in the hands of a maid, a driver and body guards.

    And why did they cremate him immediately? Are they ashamed to let the world see how an uncared and abandoned dead Pnoy looked physically? Or was he dead along time ago ad some speculated?

    The narrative that Pnoy died peacefully raise more questions than answers. His driver was interviewed on how he died instead of the attending Doctor who pronounced him dead. National disunity was blamed to have cause the death instead of failure to administer necessary medical care to the critically ill patient. They just don't add up. Fishy, fishy...fishy!

    If any, Pnoy's death was a clear evidence what kind of people sorround him: Shady and Cunning. All greedy, hypocrites and selfish. He died the most painful death: Alone, Unloved and Left to Die.

    It now appears a dead Pnoy was more useful than alive for his gimmick-hungry volture friends. They badly need a new political milleage for the fast coming Presidential elections.

    To the very end, Pnoy was a victim of his very own Liberal Party's standard of Public service: PURE LIP SERVICE.
    Last edited by _Cathy_; June 27th, 2021 at 10:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I think it's this "article". Honestly, I have the same questions as this guy. What I can't fathom is why his family allowed him to skip 2 dialysis sessions. My Mom and I had an argument about it. I told my Mom, I don't care if my brother gets mad at me or hates me for it, but I am FORCING him to take a dialysis. I am not going anywhere until he gets the treatment he needs. I am sure they all know that a skipped dialysis session could mean death. I know very little about medicine and I am aware that the body will be poisoned if a person with kidney failure doesn't do dialysis. I was also shocked that the night before Pnoy died he requested for sinful foods for lunch (sisig, crispy pata and burger for lunch for someone whose kidney is failing?) Yun ang mahirap kasi he has no family with him and his staff cannot force him to do anything. Also, I don't know why he did not have a nurse checking on him every X number of hours knowing he is in bad shape?

    Another thing I can't understand is why the cremation and short wake? I know it's none of my business pero kasi with Ninoy and Cory they allowed the public to see them one last time. I feel so bad because Pnoy was too young to die. If only a President could have 2 terms, I would have happily voted for him.

    BTW I am against the MALICE in this article written by a Dutertard
    You can't force someone to take on a medical procedure. I don't like anti-vaxxers but at the end of the day its still their choice. You can educate them and entice them with benefits but you cannot put a gun to their heads to strap them down and cut them open. Walang doctor na gagawa niyan, kaya nga may consent forms eh.

    The article sounds a lot like those conspiracy theories about then Sec. Jessie Robredo being killed in order to thrust the wife, now VP Leni into the limelight and in turn on the path to Malacanan. Which kind of looks like an episode taken from a Justice League Unlimited cartoon about the origin of the Terry Mcguinnis Batman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I think it's this "article". Honestly, I have the same questions as this guy. What I can't fathom is why his family allowed him to skip 2 dialysis sessions.
    "what do you wish the family to do? manhandle him to the dialysis center?"
    heh heh.

    not all dialysis patients are so utterly depend on frequent dialysis.
    iba-iba ang level of necessity ng pasyente sa dialysis.

    the guy is an adult. he can decide for himself.
    and if what he wants is not in agreement with what we desire,
    there is nothing we can do about it.

    btw,
    this alleged patient behavior is a common observation among chronic illness sufferers.

    short lamay?
    some folks want it short. some do not want to make a fuss. some do not want to inconvenience the others with a long wake. plus, there's covid.
    my own relative, before covid, died friday. finis sunday.

    last,
    how sigurado are we, that the purported narration of events is the real truth?
    Last edited by dr. d; June 27th, 2021 at 10:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I think it's this "article". Honestly, I have the same questions as this guy. What I can't fathom is why his family allowed him to skip 2 dialysis sessions. My Mom and I had an argument about it. I told my Mom, I don't care if my brother gets mad at me or hates me for it, but I am FORCING him to take a dialysis. I am not going anywhere until he gets the treatment he needs. I am sure they all know that a skipped dialysis session could mean death. I know very little about medicine and I am aware that the body will be poisoned if a person with kidney failure doesn't do dialysis. I was also shocked that the night before Pnoy died he requested for sinful foods for lunch (sisig, crispy pata and burger for lunch for someone whose kidney is failing?) Yun ang mahirap kasi he has no family with him and his staff cannot force him to do anything. Also, I don't know why he did not have a nurse checking on him every X number of hours knowing he is in bad shape?

    Another thing I can't understand is why the cremation and short wake? I know it's none of my business pero kasi with Ninoy and Cory they allowed the public to see them one last time. I feel so bad because Pnoy was too young to die. If only a President could have 2 terms, I would have happily voted for him.

    BTW I am against the MALICE in this article written by a Dutertard
    Ang sabi daw was Pnoy wasn't feeling well kaya he was unable to attend 2 sessions, otherwise he may have just did, and I guess his body was already on the verge of shutting down at that time. As for the cremation and short wake, I guess the Aquino sisters were mindful of the COVID situation thus they had to push for the immediate laying to rest of Pnoy, otherwise he would have been lying in state at the Senate, HoR and Malacanang in accordance with tradition. Yung cremation, not necessarily dahil sa COVID pero iyun na ang naging decision ng magkakapatid. Anyway, better not to believe all that b.s. those jerks have been spreading over socmed, buhay pa si Pnoy they've been throwing crap at him for this, for that. Mas may credibility yung sinabi nung driver at nung kasambahay, since they've been with him at Times St. for over 40 years, buhay pa ang mga magulang niya noon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    You can't force someone to take on a medical procedure. I don't like anti-vaxxers but at the end of the day its still their choice. You can educate them and entice them with benefits but you cannot put a gun to their heads to strap them down and cut them open. Walang doctor na gagawa niyan, kaya nga may consent forms eh.

    The article sounds a lot like those conspiracy theories about then Sec. Jessie Robredo being killed in order to thrust the wife, now VP Leni into the limelight and in turn on the path to Malacanan. Which kind of looks like an episode taken from a Justice League Unlimited cartoon about the origin of the Terry Mcguinnis Batman.
    Pnoy is very intelligent (and the people around him) I just find it shocking that they allowed him to skip dialysis when it could mean death, but yeah like Devastator said, his body could have been shutting down already. Pag naiisip ko kasi that he died alone in his chair nakaka depress Could his life have been extended if he were confined and got that transplant.

    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    "what do you wish the family to do? manhandle him to the dialysis center?"
    If I have to I would.

    Just to clarify, I do NOT agree with the rest of the article, just the question I highlighted (on why he was allowed to skip dialysis and why the cremation and short wake)

    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator View Post
    Ang sabi daw was Pnoy wasn't feeling well kaya he was unable to attend 2 sessions, otherwise he may have just did, and I guess his body was already on the verge of shutting down at that time. As for the cremation and short wake, I guess the Aquino sisters were mindful of the COVID situation thus they had to push for the immediate laying to rest of Pnoy, otherwise he would have been lying in state at the Senate, HoR and Malacanang in accordance with tradition. Yung cremation, not necessarily dahil sa COVID pero iyun na ang naging decision ng magkakapatid. Anyway, better not to believe all that b.s. those jerks have been spreading over socmed, buhay pa si Pnoy they've been throwing crap at him for this, for that. Mas may credibility yung sinabi nung driver at nung kasambahay, since they've been with him at Times St. for over 40 years, buhay pa ang mga magulang niya noon.
    I definitely don't believe the other BS in the article. It's just that I have the same question (why he was allowed to skip 2 dialysis sessions and why he was cremated and buried abruptly)

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    and why he was cremated and buried abruptly)
    face it: some folks have different values from yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    face it: some folks have different values from yours.
    They did not cremate Ninoy and Cory though kaya ako nagtataka

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    I think it's this "article". Honestly, I have the same questions as this guy. What I can't fathom is why his family allowed him to skip 2 dialysis sessions. My Mom and I had an argument about it. I told my Mom, I don't care if my brother gets mad at me or hates me for it, but I am FORCING him to take a dialysis. I am not going anywhere until he gets the treatment he needs. I am sure they all know that a skipped dialysis session could mean death. I know very little about medicine and I am aware that the body will be poisoned if a person with kidney failure doesn't do dialysis. I was also shocked that the night before Pnoy died he requested for sinful foods for lunch (sisig, crispy pata and burger for lunch for someone whose kidney is failing?) Yun ang mahirap kasi he has no family with him and his staff cannot force him to do anything. Also, I don't know why he did not have a nurse checking on him every X number of hours knowing he is in bad shape?

    Another thing I can't understand is why the cremation and short wake? I know it's none of my business pero kasi with Ninoy and Cory they allowed the public to see them one last time. I feel so bad because Pnoy was too young to die. If only a President could have 2 terms, I would have happily voted for him.

    BTW I am against the MALICE in this article written by a Dutertard
    "If only a President could have 2 terms, I would have happily voted for him"

    Had he served a 2nd term he wouldn't have lasted this long considering his illness

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