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    The Mirrorless Shootout



    Conclusion

    So let's get some questions asked and answered:

    Are these cameras better in image quality than the high-end compacts? Yes.

    Are these cameras as good as a low-end DSLR in image quality? Yes, with some minor quibbles with the m4/3 models, which are lagging slightly in dynamic range.

    Could you abandon your DSLR for one of these? Maybe. There are things you give up and things you gain. But if you're asking in terms of image quality and lens quality, then the answer is a little split, but probably yes. The m4/3 cameras are challenged above ISO 800, the NX and NEX systems are challenged by lack of lenses right now.

    Is autofocus performance good DSLR-like? No. None of these cameras are great at continuous autofocus tracking, though they're at least as good as any compact camera, if not better. Some of it will depend upon lens. I found most of them are faster with the simpler primes, and some lenses to be faster at focusing than others. I think we're one generation away from getting really good (but still not phase detect level) focusing.

    Can I use my current lenses on them? Yes, but on the m4/3 bodies you probably won't want to unless they're 4/3 lenses (due to the 2x crop factor), and on all of them you won't want to unless you like manual focusing.
    Should you consider one instead of a compact? Yes, but note that you won't be shirt-pocketing any of these, even with their smallest pancake prime lens.

    Are they worth the money? Probably. I picked up the E-PL1 during a big sale for US$399 (with lens!) from Best Buy (!), and at that price it's a bargain. I wouldn't pay more than a low-end DSLR for one, though, unless you absolutely can put a price on smaller size and weight.

    Source: Panasonic GF-1, Olympus E-PL1, Samsung NX100, and Sony NEX-5 Camera Review by Thom Hogan

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    8"+ daw...will they really follow Samsung? I thought apple is the trailblazer? Overwhelmed na siguro sila Sa Samsung dahil lahat ng sizess meron

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    8"+ daw...will they really follow Samsung? I thought apple is the trailblazer? Overwhelmed na siguro sila Sa Samsung dahil lahat ng sizess meron


    Everyone is suprised at the success of the 5.3" Galaxy Note. Pad and phone 5 million units sold.

    Samsung recently disclosed that they have sold 5 million Galaxy Note smartphone/tablet devices globally, and officially credited that particular smartphone for helping them to one of their best financial quarters ever in Q1 2012.
    Last edited by Monseratto; May 21st, 2012 at 08:34 PM.

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    Go to 9to5mac.com for the latest rumors. Updated sila dun. Nandoon ang mga news na pinoproduce na yung mga components ng upcoming new iOS devices, kaya alam mong malapit nang i-release.

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    and why would i take my dslr to someone's party and take their photos? never! ano ako photographer for hire? for free? di nila kaya per hour rate ko hahahaha! bumili ako ng dslr for me, not for them.

    at ano ngayon kung 10x a year ko lang nagagamit yung dslr at nakatago siya sa cabinet 11 months and 20 days in a year? paano kung kelangan, use the ipad? and look like a fool?
    bakit yung santa fe ko 2x a week ko lng ginagamit? mas mahal pa yun sa dslr. bakit di ko binebenta? e paano pag coding? taxi? bus? dyip?
    bakit yung mga baril ko di ko naman ginagamit? nakatago lang sa cabinet 365 days a year. 200k+ din total nun, ibebenta ko din? paano pag may babarilin ako? tirador na lang, bato, kutsilyo?
    etc etc.

    the thing is, pag kailangan ko andun meron ako. and i want it to that standard, no compromises. and i want it NOW, not later.

    now, balik sa ipad3. seriously i'm considering instead the asus transformer prime 32G wifi 3g. same price. anyone has this?

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    it all boils down to preference. some people are happy with blurry or grainy pictures. as long as they can see their face they are happy with it. but those with a higher standard for photography will definitely look for a better or best equipment for it.

    an example is the swiss army knife. it does have everything in it. but, will anyone be cutting an 8foot 3/4 thick plywood with it? dont think so.

    with the moon shot given by ghosthunter, which i must say is very good. i dont know any phone or tablet that can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baker123 View Post
    with the moon shot given by ghosthunter, which i must say is very good. i dont know any phone or tablet that can do that.
    Exactly. Cameras excel at taking pictures.

    Smartphones are do-all-devices but master of none (except making calls and sending sms messages).

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    Quote Originally Posted by baker123 View Post
    it all boils down to preference. some people are happy with blurry or grainy pictures. as long as they can see their face they are happy with it. but those with a higher standard for photography will definitely look for a better or best equipment for it.

    an example is the swiss army knife. it does have everything in it. but, will anyone be cutting an 8foot 3/4 thick plywood with it? dont think so.

    with the moon shot given by ghosthunter, which i must say is very good. i dont know any phone or tablet that can do that.
    ang problema kasi dun ang dami ng pictures ng moon, ang dami na din videos ng moon. sa sobrang dami nangyayari sa buhay natin araw-araw you cant capture yun one-of-a-kind moment kasi nga dala-dala mo ba dslr mo? at kung dala-dala mo naman, pagtanggal lang nun sa bag at pagpili ng lens, tapos na yun moment. and therefore, iphone camera wins.

    and also wag nyo i-compared other camera phones kasi talagang walang kwenta yun mga sa nokia saka sa android, sa apple kasi maganda talaga ang camera, honest kasi si steve Jobs eh ang kinakabit nya camera sa iphone / ipad de-kalidad talaga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    ang problema kasi dun ang dami ng pictures ng moon, ang dami na din videos ng moon. sa sobrang dami nangyayari sa buhay natin araw-araw you cant capture yun one-of-a-kind moment kasi nga dala-dala mo ba dslr mo? at kung dala-dala mo naman, pagtanggal lang nun sa bag at pagpili ng lens, tapos na yun moment. and therefore, iphone camera wins.
    By the time you have taken out your iphone from your pocket/bag/purse/baby-sock, unlocked it, launched the photo app and focused on the subject... the same "moment" has also passed you by.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    By the time you have taken out your iphone from your pocket/bag/purse/baby-sock, unlocked it, launched the photo app and focused on the subject... the same "moment" has also passed you by.


    ganda naman nyan pic mo *ghost. pero yun na nga eh, even if I can produce the same photo as yours, parang natatamad ako sobra .san ba yan? imagine for me to bring that camera there handcarrry ko pa siguro yan sa eroplano

    hindi naman auto mode gamit ko, program mode. yun nga pati lang pag-dial, saka pag-focus ng lens kinatatamaran ko din eh. maybe bec. i have photographic memory, i dont need to take photos of it kasi lagi naman nasa memory ko yun mga nagustuhan ko scenes and very vivid too kahit 5 years na nakalipas ...

    i don't have this desire to share what I've seen kasi naniniwala ako na binibigay mo ng libre sa iba, they'll just take it for granted. so parang ganun,

    punta ka quiapo, bili ka dslr.
    punta ka megamall bili ka bag,
    punta ka cebu pacific, tawad ka kasi mahal bili mo sa dslr.
    pili ka ng less star hotel, kasi yun na nga mahal talaga dslr mo
    tapos pakahirap ka sa scene area, kung pano i-take or piktyuran. tapos magulat ka na lang hapon na, eh once in a lifetime ka lang makapunta sa lugar na yun.
    tapos napagod ka kakabuhat ng dslr mo, kakain ka ng madami.

    pag-uwi mo doble effort na naman sa gym kasi napakain ka ng marami kasi ang hirap-hirap magbuhat ng dSLR and accessories

    tapos pag-na-upload mo na pics, manghinayang ka kasi dami mo di na-picturan pa sana. you're thinking konti lang likes mo and comments bec. you didn't capture other beautiful scenes.

    eh kailangan mo yun, yun reviews by others, to get you motivated to do better things. if you did all of these things above, tapos wala man lang mag-waste ng kahit 30 sec. to view your work. then what's the point diba?

    pero maganda yan pics mo *ghost

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    ganda naman nyan pic mo *ghost. pero yun na nga eh, even if I can produce the same photo as yours, parang natatamad ako sobra .san ba yan? imagine for me to bring that camera there handcarrry ko pa siguro yan sa eroplano
    That is where you are wrong. That photo was taken using a point & shoot camera. Not a DLSR. No special gear, just me with the point & shoot camera taking photos and then later stitching the photos together with aid of a software into a panoramic shot.

    BTW, the photo was taken in New Zealand a couple of years ago.

    One more... using a P&S camera...


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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    By the time you have taken out your iphone from your pocket/bag/purse/baby-sock, unlocked it, launched the photo app and focused on the subject... the same "moment" has also passed you by.



    pwede pang cover photo sa fb yan sir gh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    and also wag nyo i-compared other camera phones kasi talagang walang kwenta yun mga sa nokia saka sa android, sa apple kasi maganda talaga ang camera, honest kasi si steve Jobs eh ang kinakabit nya camera sa iphone / ipad de-kalidad talaga.
    LOL! ... I have news for you. The first camera-phone was not made by Apple.

    It was invented in Japan and soon after, made popular by Nokia.

    Nokia is best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    ang problema kasi dun ang dami ng pictures ng moon, ang dami na din videos ng moon. sa sobrang dami nangyayari sa buhay natin araw-araw you cant capture yun one-of-a-kind moment kasi nga dala-dala mo ba dslr mo?
    im confused. are you saying that your one-of-a-kind moment are all steady poses? with peace signs pointed on the cheek? can your iphone/ipad clearly capture kids playing?

    dude, do you have kids? have you tried taking school plays (indoors) when your not near the stage to take pictures? kid's school plays are also included in your one-of-a-kind-moment. im not sure if your iphone can arm-zoom more than a dslr lens can optically zoom. nor can you take better pictures on a low light environment.

    and your taking those precious moments on an iphone or camera phone? are you serious?

    most of all. this thread has OT'd way too much hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by baker123

    im confused. are you saying that your one-of-a-kind moment are all steady poses? with peace signs pointed on the cheek? can your iphone/ipad clearly capture kids playing?

    dude, do you have kids? have you tried taking school plays (indoors) when your not near the stage to take pictures? kid's school plays are also included in your one-of-a-kind-moment. im not sure if your iphone can arm-zoom more than a dslr lens can optically zoom. nor can you take better pictures on a low light environment.

    and your taking those precious moments on an iphone or camera phone? are you serious?

    most of all. this thread has OT'd way too much hahaha
    well you can always remain stagnant with what you have. but i'm betting on the technology that even your kids want to have for today. buti ka pa nga may kids eh, listen to them. if you force them to buy DSLRs in the future, it's like trying to force them to play the piano. Dami old houses ngaun may piano naktambak, taking up to much precious real estate space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    well you can always remain stagnant with what you have. but i'm betting on the technology that even your kids want to have for today. buti ka pa nga may kids eh, listen to them. if you force them to buy DSLRs in the future, it's like trying to force them to play the piano. Dami old houses ngaun may piano naktambak, taking up to much precious real estate space.
    Why buy DLSR cameras for kids when future point&shoot cameras will just get better and still fit in the pocket? My niece is less than ten years old and she just loves taking pictures with her camera and later uploading via her laptop to her facebook account to share with her cousins and school friends.

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    Basta para sakin kahit magka 20MP pa ang iPhone 7, di pa rin mapapalitan ang mga camera talaga. Phones ang forte nyan is SMS and calls, yung ibang features bonus na lang kumbaga. While a DSLR camera has photography of course as its forte. There's a reason why cameras and cellphones were invented. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chikselog View Post
    Basta para sakin kahit magka 20MP pa ang iPhone 7, di pa rin mapapalitan ang mga camera talaga. Phones ang forte nyan is SMS and calls, yung ibang features bonus na lang kumbaga. While a DSLR camera has photography of course as its forte. There's a reason why cameras and cellphones were invented. Period.
    ang alam ko kasi all of us are products of 60's star trek. yun tipong one device lang dala mo. yun naman talaga goal diba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chikselog View Post
    Basta para sakin kahit magka 20MP pa ang iPhone 7, di pa rin mapapalitan ang mga camera talaga. Phones ang forte nyan is SMS and calls, yung ibang features bonus na lang kumbaga. While a DSLR camera has photography of course as its forte. There's a reason why cameras and cellphones were invented. Period.
    eh paano nga kung malagyan ng apple ang ipad or iphone ng "DSLR" quality camera.... take note that cam phones and DSLR uses the same technology.. CMOS sensors.. the only difference is the lens...

    sabi ko nga some point and shoot camera now have built in wifi na...

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