turbo na aircon?

**angbatangobong** · June 13th, 2009 08:25 AM

please wag nyo po muna 'tong pagtawanan

. serious po ako.

mga experts, help naman po. meron kasi kaming thesis proposal at ito ang biglang pumasok sa isip ko. kelangan ko tong i-defend kasi. hindi ba ang kelangan lang naman ng turbo eh hangin? i was thingking na sa electric motor lang rin ng aircon manggagaling ang intake ng turbo. can this be possible? ang purpose nito eh para makatipid sa kuryente by not using the max power of the electric motor and instead use the boost of the turbo

what do you think guys? kung hinde pwede, magiisip nalang ako ng ibang thesis proposal. any other suggestions? pwede rin sa life science.

please reply asap
TIA!

**oj88** · June 13th, 2009 09:11 AM

On cars, the turbo captures the high velocity exhaust gasses to turn a turbine. A second turbine connected to the same shaft sucks air for the intake, providing an exponential increase in intake air pressure. This in turn makes the engine produce more power and the cycle continue.

The one you're proposing will not work simply because there's no combustion or high-velocity air present to turn the turbo.

**angbatangobong** · June 13th, 2009 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by oj88

On cars, the turbo captures the high velocity exhaust gasses to turn a turbine. A second turbine connected to the same shaft sucks air for the intake, providing an exponential increase in intake air pressure. This in turn makes the engine produce more power and the cycle continue.

The one you're proposing will not work simply because there's no combustion or high-velocity air present to turn the turbo.

thanks sir! so kelangan eh napakalakas pala na air flow ang gamitin para mapaikot yung turbo. i thought the air coming from the fan of the aircon is enogh.

BTW, any other titles you may suggest?

**roberto_minosa** · June 13th, 2009 10:54 AM

What about using the turbo to turn the a/c compressor?!?

**oj88** · June 13th, 2009 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by roberto_minosa

What about using the turbo to turn the a/c compressor?!?

Same problem. There's no exceptional force enough to turn the turbo to be of much use.

The way it works on cars, the air intake velocity is not the same as the exhaust velocity. The exhaust velocity is much, much stronger due to air+fuel combustion. Combined that with the hot exhaust manifold, it makes for a very fast-moving exhaust gas. The turbo is there to harness that energy and everybody pretty much knows what happens next.

**Horsepower** · June 13th, 2009 12:01 PM

Since may fully electric auto aircon na, try mo mag venture sa Solar AutoAC.

This is useful when parking in the desert or hot open parking areas.

**ghosthunter** · June 13th, 2009 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by angbatangobong

mga experts, help naman po. meron kasi kaming thesis proposal at ito ang biglang pumasok sa isip ko. kelangan ko tong i-defend kasi. hindi ba ang kelangan lang naman ng turbo eh hangin? i was thingking na sa electric motor lang rin ng aircon manggagaling ang intake ng turbo. can this be possible? ang purpose nito eh para makatipid sa kuryente by not using the max power of the electric motor and instead use the boost of the turbo

what do you think guys? kung hinde pwede, magiisip nalang ako ng ibang thesis proposal. any other suggestions? pwede rin sa life science.

People with no proper grasp of basic concepts of mechanics and physics shouldn't even try designing a machine.

**ghosthunter** · June 13th, 2009 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by angbatangobong

BTW, any other titles you may suggest?

What is your major?... mechanical engineering?

Anyway, try to google "MINATO MOTOR" and check out the concept and videos.

**Horsepower** · June 13th, 2009 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by ghosthunter

People with no proper grasp of basic concepts of mechanics and physics shouldn't even try designing a machine.

That's what schools and studying through experimentations are for.

Most of the useful things we have today were first thought to be crazy or stupid by the supposed intellectuals of the past.

of course, those clowns are now regarded as fools long after they have died.

**ghosthunter** · June 13th, 2009 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Horsepower

That's what schools and studying through experimentations are for.

Back in college and even high school, I already had a good grasp of science and mechanics enough to know what can and cannot work.

BTW, this guy is already going for his thesis, hence he should already have been given the basics of mechanics and physics and even chemistry. YET if he doesn't yet know how to combine these FUNDAMENTALS into something functional in theory, how else can he even make a totally original concept design???

Most of the useful things we have today were first thought to be crazy or stupid by the supposed intellectuals of the past.

of course, those clowns are now regarded as fools long after they have died.

PLEASE let us NOT go back to the DINGLE discussion again because THAT is the direction where this discussion would be headed in a few replies.

There is a big difference to what people knew 100 years ago and 50 years ago. What the TS is asking for is something even a mechanic from 50 years ago can answer effectively.

We live in a modern world where it only takes one idiot to press the wrong button to bring it all crashing down.