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    RP software group slams poaching by Singapore recruiters

    By Lawrence Casiraya
    INQUIRER.net
    Last updated 05:43pm (Mla time) 07/27/2007

    MANILA, Philippines -- The Philippine Software Industry Association (PSIA) has expressed alarm over the rampant recruitment of Filipino software professionals by Singaporean companies.

    According to the PSIA, over the past two years, some of its member-companies have observed a growing number of agencies from Singapore that send representatives to Manila to recruit software engineers.

    "Their representatives usually fly in and stay for the weekend, during which period they aggressively sign up dozens of senior software engineers, most of whom are employed," said Fermin Taruc, president of PSIA and managing director Gurango Software Corp.

    Once hired, these engineers are immediately offered flight bookings, according to the PSIA in its position paper.

    "They are usually given less than a week's notice, which leaves them with no opportunity for proper resignation and transition. Much as they would like to ensure a smooth transition, these engineers are often compelled to breach their existing contracts for these 'take-it-or-leave-it' opportunities," Taruc said.

    PSIA noted that this hiring practice has been detrimental to the local software industry.

    With senior software engineers suddenly gone, local software companies reportedly end up struggling with limited time, resources and project information to deliver their clients' requirements.

    This often results in unsatisfied clients, even lawsuits against local software companies that fail to deliver mission-critical projects according to the service level agreement.

    "It is clearly hurting the business of local software companies. On a bigger scale, it is putting the Philippines in a bad light from the clients' perspective," Taruc said.

    To address the situation, the PSIA has requested the Singapore government to impose additional requirements on Filipinos securing work visas, including a copy of the applicant's resignation letter and clearance from his or her latest employer.

    "The world looks to Singapore as a role model in terms of law and order, discipline, and progressive government policies. This is why the PSIA believes that, in the spirit of fair trade, the Singapore government can make improvements in regulating the hiring and recruitment process in the Philippines," Taruc said.

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    kasalanan din nang mga companies yan dito..

    if they are paying their software engineers properly.. hindi aalis yan..

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    may point ung PSIA... pero baka lalo akong mahirapan niyan pag nagbalak ako magtrabaho sa singapore. hehehe

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    ganyan talaga sa business. kung ayaw nila umalis ang mga programmers/engineers dapat gumawa sila ng paraan hindi ganyan na nagrereklamo.


    To address the situation, the PSIA has requested the Singapore government to impose additional requirements on Filipinos securing work visas, including a copy of the applicant's resignation letter and clearance from his or her latest employer.
    gusto pa nila gawin responsible yung Singapore government for employment problems here. parang mali eh.

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    PERA-PERA lang yan di ba?!?

    Kulang talaga at underpaid ang mga magagaling natin software engineer. Contracts for programs goes as high as hundreds and millions of pesos...pero magkano lang ang mapupunta sa software developers and engineers?

    If this Fermin Taruc uses his brains, he should know that underpaid lang ang mga ito kaya this employees are more than willing to leave immediately.

    Sa Singapore side naman, they (employers) also know very well that these Pinoy engineers are cheaper and probably a better value-for-money deal than getting a local (singaporean programmer).

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    panay sila ngakngak e milliones ang kita nila sa contracts nila, tapos ambon lang ang napapala ng mga employees. sobrang takaw sa pera at ayaw nila i-share sa employees nila. una pa alam na nila na ang success ng company nila ay dahil sa galing ng kanilang employees, so dapat una din sa priorities nila ang ma-retain ang mga employees nila by giving competetive salaries and benefits like profit sharing, etc. kaso nga sobrang gahaman sa pera kaya iniiwanan ng employees. sisihin pa nila singaporean employers, ang kapal naman! magpa-sweldo sila ng katiting tapos magagalit sa companies na mataas magpasweldo, kupal talaga. all i can say is, BUTI NGA SA INYO MGA BUWAYA!

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    yes, option ng mga trabahador na umalis kapag hindi maganda ang benefits.

    pero sana temporary lang yun at bumalik sana sila dito sa pinas, kapag marami na silang pera. ito ay kagaya ng mga ginagawa ng mga indian it professionals. after making it big in the states, balik sila sa india para mapalago ang it industry dun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A121 View Post
    yes, option ng mga trabahador na umalis kapag hindi maganda ang benefits.

    pero sana temporary lang yun at bumalik sana sila dito sa pinas, kapag marami na silang pera. ito ay kagaya ng mga ginagawa ng mga indian it professionals. after making it big in the states, balik sila sa india para mapalago ang it industry dun.
    ah ganon ba mga indians? sana ung mga indians dito sa office namin yumaman na rin.

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    Ang baba naman talaga nang pasweldo dito sa atin..

    based sa jobstreet salary info:

    PROGRAMMER

    Position Level >>>> Min (Peso) >>>> Average (Peso) >>>> Max (Peso)
    Assistant Manager / Manager >>> 20,000.00 >>> 26,000.00 >>> 35,000.00
    Supervisor / 5 Years & Up Experienced Employee >>> 15,000.00 >>> 20,000.00 >>> 25,000.00
    1-4 Years Experienced Employee >>> 11,000.00 >>> 15,000.00 >>> 17,500.00
    Fresh Grad / < 1 Year Experienced Employee >>> 8,000.00 >>> 10,000.00 >>> 13,000.00

    ehh mataas pa sweldo nang call center agent eh..

    samantalang sa SINGAPORE


    Position Level Min (S$)* Average (S$)* Max (S$)*
    Senior Executive 3,000.00 3,500.00 4,000.00
    Junior Executive 2,500.00 2,800.00 3,250.00
    Fresh / Entry Level 1,850.00 2,500.00 2,800.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by theveed View Post
    "They are usually given less than a week's notice, which leaves them with no opportunity for proper resignation and transition. Much as they would like to ensure a smooth transition, these engineers are often compelled to breach their existing contracts for these 'take-it-or-leave-it' opportunities," Taruc said.

    PSIA noted that this hiring practice has been detrimental to the local software industry.
    ugok din tong taruc na ito.baka pag sya inoperan sa US ng 1M per month lipad agad din sya e.maximum utilization pero di maganda sahod, tama lang yan na magsi alisan mga empleyado nila.

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