PC and Console Games Thread

**jut703** · October 31st, 2009 03:21 AM

Gusto ko rin ng Forza 3 at GT5. Haaay. Why do all the good games head straight to consoles.

Oh well at least maganda NFS Shift. But not GT5 level.

**tidus1203** · October 31st, 2009 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto

A lot of ordering online is still not taxed. I ordered $780 worth of pc parts online tax free.

Well taga US ka din eh.... But if you order from Amazon and have it shipped here you will get taxed...

**tidus1203** · October 31st, 2009 04:35 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

Gusto ko rin ng Forza 3 at GT5. Haaay. Why do all the good games head straight to consoles.

Oh well at least maganda NFS Shift. But not GT5 level.

And that's why I left PC gaming. In the 90's PC gaming was king but as soon as game makers realize that consoles make more money then they made more games for consoles...

**frenchtower** · October 31st, 2009 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by rion

no tax? wow...

medyo ot. wala bang tax kapag sa amazon or sa ebay?

You don't get any sales tax if you purchase it outside of your state. Online stores, specially Amazon, make sure that the nearest distribution center to your state will accomodate the sale and delivery of the item.This frees the buyer from paying State sales tax.

If purchase is done outside of the US, then that's a whole different story. Duties/taxes/Delivery fee are commonly paid. Hope this helps.

**n2knee** · October 31st, 2009 06:05 AM

in response to sales taxes, here is the basic rule of thumb:
*if the out of state vendor has no nexus (legal connection) to your home state, then YOU don't have to pay sales tax (the out of state vendor is not obligated to collect sales tax on your home state's behalf). however, when you file your state income tax return, you will be required to report your out of state purchases, which your home state will use to compute the USE TAX you owe. from my experience, not many people are willing to pay more tax voluntarily...if you get my drift.
----MOST OUT OF STATE ONLINE RETAILERS THAT HAVE NO BRICK AND MORTAR SHOPS (not enough nexus) IN YOUR HOME STATE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO COLLECT SALES TAXES.
software that was purchased online, downloaded online (you did not received a CD copy of it) is exempt from use tax in most states. i think, if i remember correctly, only PA & IL are the two states that do not exempt digitally downloaded software from use tax.

**Jun aka Pekto** · October 31st, 2009 06:55 AM

Anyway, is it still GT5 that's supposed to be the best driving sim around or have others like Forza 3 caught up?

I'm leaning towards buying a PS3 because we already have a Logitech driving wheel and pedals set for the PS2 (plus another for the pc). The set should work with the PS3 as well.

Geez. Anyone seen the prices on these driving wheels? They used to be $50-$150 not too long ago.

Now, a Logitech G25 is at least $200. It's got clutch, brakes, gas, and paddle shifters though.

**Negus** · October 31st, 2009 03:36 PM

hmm, the g25's brake pedal is awefully far from the gas pedal.

I might have to mod the pedals to look like this when I buy one.

Why? for easier heel-toe downshifting!

the proper positioning of the pedals as seen in a hyundai genesis coupe (and most manual transmission sports cars):

**Jun aka Pekto** · October 31st, 2009 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Negus

Why? for easier heel-toe downshifting!

I've probably done the heel n toe (real world) accidentally or unconsciously in the past. I often wondered what happened to the turbo lag. Then when I tried to retrace my steps using a classic/proper downshift, I couldn't replicate it.

Anyway, those pedals are so small, you wouldn't need to mod them. At least the pedals of my old cheap Logitech NASCAR are (for the pc). There's no clutch. He He. But, it still beats a gamepad. I shift via bottons on the wheel.

**jut703** · October 31st, 2009 07:21 PM

As if the G25 wasn't dreamy enough, Logitech releases an evolutionary improvement in the form of the G27:

Quick Overview of differences from G25:

Buttons on wheel face: G25 has two, G27 has six
Force feedback transmission: G25 features straight-cut (spur) gears, G27 features diagonal-cut (helical) gears
Pedals: G27 features taller standoffs for clutch and brake pedals, as well as horizontal adjustability, making customizability and heel-toe downshifting easier
Shifter: G27 features stiffer centering spring and more positive gear engagement feeling, improving the overall feel of the shifter.
RPM/Shift Indicator LEDs: G27 features 10 LEDs that can be used by game developers to indicate RPM, redline, or to indicate the user should shift gears.

from: http://blog.logitech.com/2009/08/17/...for-pc-gaming/

Current G25 retails for about 12,500 petot, this one goes for around 14-15k.

Sadly I can't afford either of them. The Logitech Momo is good value though, got mine for 3,600. No clutch and manual shifter, no 900 degree rotation, but it does have the same precision as the G25. From what I've read though, potentiometers on the pedals of the Momo break easily. Had mine for 10 months now, still works well.

**Jun aka Pekto** · October 31st, 2009 11:25 PM

Well, if you want maximum immersiveness in a game, you have to pay for it. A driving wheel for a car game is as standard equipment as a joystick is to a flight sim.

For both genres, it seems like I'm a Logitech junkie....... Logitech driving wheels. Logitech flight/joy stick, Logitech speakers (Z-2300)...... etc.

Logitech is the Sony of accessories.

With speakers like the Z-2300 or better, who needs force feedback? The whole freaking desk shakes when there's an explosion and loud enough to have the wife screaming at me.