Which notebook is better? Toshiba or Apple?

[_Cathy_]

Yesterday I got the dreaded blue screen. I think it's my laptop telling me that it's due for retirement. I'm currently using a Toshiba Satellite which I bought for around 80K in early 2006. I am extremely satisfied with its performance over the past 5 years. My Toshiba has never been reformatted and it has never crashed despite all the **** This is my workhorse laptop for I turn it on as soon as I get home until I fall asleep. Because of this, I vowed to stick with Toshiba for my next laptop.

I bought my Tosihiba laptop with a friend who got an identical unit and we got a discount for doing so. However my friend is now considering getting an Apple to replace her Toshiba. And that's where my dilemma begins. I am very satisfied with my current Toshiba but I trust my friend's judgement when it comes to good buys.

This is my understanding of why I should get an apple:

1. Not prone to virus
2. Great OS (no bugs)

I have doubts about it's durability. Can it be really used as a workhorse?

My main considerations for getting a laptop are:

1. Practicality - I drive a Toyota. I use a Nokia. I don't need form and flash

2. Dependability - it won't fail on me.

3. Durability - it needs to be able to stand abuse. I don't want a notebook that requires great care (di pwede mabagsak, di pwede mainitan, di pwede matagal mabukas)

Ideally my budget is 40k but I can stretch it until 60k. Please help me make a decision. Your replies would be very much appreciated.

PS: I came to a decision of purchasing my new Nokia model based on the suggestions as replies to my thread on this board

PPS: Kindly inform me where it is best to buy your recommended laptop. I am considering any other brands but Toshiba or Apple.

[uls]

ayaw mo HP?


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[_Cathy_]

I don't like netbooks and I need at least a 14" screen.

[12vdc]

Get another Toshiba. the one with Harman Kardon speakers. they are solid as a rock. Failure rate is low.
Best if you could get one from US, its a real made in Japon..

Stay away from HP..these are China just like Acer with so many issues.. MSI is better or Sony ViAO IMO and experience.

[Ry_Tower]

Get a Dell XPS. Kasya budget mo.

[ghosthunter]

Check this ASUS with an Intel Core-i5 cpu notebook: Asus K43SV-VX120, Intel Core i5-2410M CPU, 2GB DDR3, 500GB HDD, nVidia GT540 1GB DDR3 dedicated VRAM | VillMan Computers

Priced at P33,000 without OS. My suggestion, upgrade the memory from 2gb to 4gb and install Windows 7 Home 64bit.

You would still have some spare change leftover from your P40,000 budget for a nice laptop bag.

[ghosthunter]

If you plan to go "APPLE", your P40,000 budget is not enough to buy a new laptop, not even for the Apple Air.

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Alternative to the ASUS above....

You can try the LENOVO Z470. Lenovo ideapad Z470 Black(5906-9400) and Pink( 59071302) DOS with 2nd Generation Core i5 processor. | VillMan Computers

Priced at P36,000 with 2gb ram "free" making a total of 4gb ram. Have Windows 7 64bit installed and it should run smooth and fast.

[keithdb]

Great OS (no bugs)

Not necessarily. It has the same amount of bugs as windows probably more, its just not that publicised as the number of user are miniscule as compared to windows users. Windows 7 is great and is updated constantly.

I have doubts about it's durability. Can it be really used as a workhorse?

They are fairly durable. If it can be used as a workhorse would depend on what you will be using it with. However, MACs are generally a lot more expensive than similarly spec'ed window counterparts.( I think as much as 2x more expensive)

1. Practicality - I drive a Toyota. I use a Nokia. I don't need form and flash

In that case the Mac is not for you as it is built more on Form than factor. see my reply above.

2. Dependability - it won't fail on me.

Quality is about the same as the high quality ones out there.

3. Durability - it needs to be able to stand abuse. I don't want a notebook that requires great care (di pwede mabagsak, di pwede mainitan, di pwede matagal mabukas)

Get a rugged notebook, they are not beautiful but built like a tank. Lenovo is know for their rugged notebooks.

Ideally my budget is 40k but I can stretch it until 60k. Please help me make a decision. Your replies would be very much appreciated.

There are a lot of midrange notebooks in the 25K to 60k bracket. It would just depend on your hardware requirements. Personally, I would go for either Asus, Lenovo, Fujitsu, or Toshiba.
14",Intel i5 processor, with 4Gig of ram is more than enough IMO.

[_Cathy_]

Not necessarily. It has the same amount of bugs as windows probably more, its just not that publicised as the number of user are miniscule as compared to windows users. Windows 7 is great and is updated constantly.

So I also need to reformat a mac? Also it also has issues on virus and hanging. Forgot to ask pala, if I get a mac are there a lot of free softwares compatible with it? I don't wanna have to buy every single software I install

They are fairly durable. If it can be used as a workhorse would depend on what you will be using it with. However, MACs are generally a lot more expensive than similarly spec'ed window counterparts.( I think as much as 2x more expensive)

In that case the Mac is not for you as it is built more on Form than factor. see my reply above..

If I decide to get a mac I'll have someone buy it in the US so it won't be that expensive. I only use my laptop for browsing. I want to download movies through ******* too. I can't do that with my current Toshiba because it hangs when I install u*******

Get a rugged notebook, they are not beautiful but built like a tank. Lenovo is know for their rugged notebooks.

There are a lot of midrange notebooks in the 25K to 60k bracket. It would just depend on your hardware requirements. Personally, I would go for either Asus, Lenovo, Fujitsu, or Toshiba.
14",Intel i5 processor, with 4Gig of ram is more than enough IMO.

Thanks. I am also considering a pink Lenovo now. Isn't Lenovo made in China na?

[ghosthunter]

Thanks. I am also considering a pink Lenovo now. Isn't Lenovo made in China na?

Lenovo units are made on the same production line (n china) that used to make IBM laptop computers. So quality is very good. Stigma of being made in "china" doesn't really apply here.

[_Cathy_]

windows or mac? people who complain on viruses and bugs on windows are like homeowners who just invite strangers to their home then complain when something is missing. wag na kasi kung san san nagpupuntang site, if you want **** just download from *******s haha! kidding aside, i can see that your primary use for the laptop is work, better check if compatible yung softwares na gagamitim mo sa mac.

Lahat naman ata ng **** may virus. lol. I won't be using my laptop for work. Pang browse lang talaga and downloading. Kaya naisip ko maganda din mac kung hindi siya navi virus kasi I intend to do a lot of downloads with my new laptop.

Not necessarily. But you have lesser risk. Most viruses are written for windows.

It is necessary to clean your OS from time to time. It became slower due to garbage being stored in your computer by applications over time. Have it re-formatted and you will see that it will be fast again. re-formatting every 2 years is good practice. This is specially true with windows xp. I don't know if this was remedied with windows 7.

OEM version is cheaper but it can be installed in only 1 machine. If you change your motherboard, goodbye na yung license. THe Full Product Version can be transferred from 1 machine to another, it is also more expensive by I think about 1K. If your the type who does not change hardware all the time, the OEM version is for you. But if you swap parts every now and then the full product version is the way to go. BTW, some packages include the OS so you can look for those deals.

Your insights have been very helpful. I keep on procastinating regarding my laptop being re formatted. I hate having to back up my files and I have to write down all my bookmarks pa. I have to do it one of these days because I could barely use my laptop now. I was able to dl the free version of AVG and everytime it runs I absolutely cannot use my laptop I never upgrade my hardware pala but I plan to buy extra ram for my current toshiba.

Bumili muna ako ng Toshiba N520 na netbook. Yung may harman kardon na speakers. Mukhang matibay din. Kaya pinangalanan ko rin ng 302nd_Spartan. At napakalakas ng tunog. Nag upgrade ako nang windows 7 starter to home edition using the "free route"..

Mahal ng may harman kardon speakers. Where did you buy your Toshiba? Ano ba yang free route na yan? P word ba?

Di pwede sa akin ang mac. Di pwede yung apps na ginagamit ko. Pero pansin ko nga rin na yung mga mac users di na bumabalik sa windows.

I forgot to list down this issue. Mapili mac sa apps. Curious nga rin ako bakit yung mga mac user tuwang tuwa sa mac. How much better is their OS compared to windows nga ba. I started with windows 3.1 kasi baka hindi maging intuitive sakin ang mac. Naalala ko sa school yung classmate ko bumili ng mac. Hindi nila mapagana sa projector. hehe.

[ghosthunter]

Your insights have been very helpful. I keep on procastinating regarding my laptop being re formatted. I hate having to back up my files and I have to write down all my bookmarks pa. I have to do it one of these days because I could barely use my laptop now. I was able to dl the free version of AVG and everytime it runs I absolutely cannot use my laptop I never upgrade my hardware pala but I plan to buy extra ram for my current toshiba.

In current versions of internet browsers, there is usually an export tool to copy the bookmarks to a file that can be used to restore your bookmarks on another computer. I used that facility when I switched netbooks recently.

BTW, if your current computer screeches to a halt when the updated anti-virus runs, it is a sign to upgrade your PC.

Mahal ng may harman kardon speakers. Where did you buy your Toshiba? Ano ba yang free route na yan? P word ba?

Free route = pirated copy

Practically the same as the legal version except you should NOT update the OS. IN fact better to disable the auto-update feature.

[robot.sonic]

Sa Automatic center sa gateway. Netbook lang yun. tag 23990. May kasamang external dvd writer, 4 gb flash drive, sleeves, at yung jologs na patungan nga laptop.

Sulit naman. Di ko na kailangan iconnect sa speakers ko kasi malakas na rin tunog. Kung di lang nanakaw laptop ko di ko pa papalitan yun e.

I reformat mo na lang toshiba mo at i save yung 40K mo. Tumatakbo pa naman e. Try mo din avira anti virus. ok din. di mabigat.

[Ry_Tower]

Free route = pirated copy

Practically the same as the legal version except you should NOT update the OS. IN fact better to disable the auto-update feature.

* C4Y - search mo yung Windows 7 Loader eXtreme Edition v3.544. It will make your new laptop seem genuine for windows in case you get the free route way. Then it would enable you to update your OS without problem.

But since may budget ka naman, bili ka na lang ng genuine OS.

[miLes]

Lahat naman ata ng **** may virus. lol. I won't be using my laptop for work. Pang browse lang talaga and downloading. Kaya naisip ko maganda din mac kung hindi siya navi virus kasi I intend to do a lot of downloads with my new laptop.

haha nope hindi naman, its just a movie, same as any other movie uploaded/downloaded, no diff from the kung fu panda 2 i downloaded just last night hehe. um im not sure if bi******* will work on mac. maraming virus and spam yung **** sites, wag nalang dun, you can find alot of **** movies on ******* virus free.

what you need tho is a fast net connection and lots of hard disk space, we only have 1mbps net speed so a reg movie file of 700mb will take about 1hr 30min. Hi-res movies 3-4gb will take about 5-6hrs, so i usually just leave my laptop running overnight. pero di narin ako nagdownload ng hi-res to save space, usually 700mb-1.4gb movie files lang ok na. with just a 14" screen walang diff yung 700mb file sa 3gb hehe