NEWS: "Palace prioritizing program for electric PUVs"

[ghosthunter]

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/218814/b...-electric-puvs

[SIZE="4"]Palace prioritizing program for electric PUVs[/SIZE]
04/27/2011 | 08:20 AM

In the wake of continued increases in prices of fuel, the government has started taking steps to wean public utility vehicles from fossil fuels, Malacañang said Wednesday.

Presidential Communications Operations Office head Herminio Coloma Jr. said the Departments of Energy and Transportation and Communications have made the first step with tricycles.

“Yan ay priority measure, 'di maaring magpatuloy ang kasalukuyang sitwasyon na masyado tayong naliligalig sa pagkaroon ng volatility of oil price movement," he said in an interview on dzXL radio.

He noted they are starting the program with some one million public utility tricycles in the country.

The government will use a grant from the Asian Development Bank for this, he said.

“Ang unang programa natin, ang pinaka-basic transportation na ginagamit, ang tricycle. Ang objective natin alisin totally ang dependence ng tricycle sa oil at magkaroon ng electric tricycles," he said.

Coloma said that once this is completed, the Department of Energy (DOE) and the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) will set their sights on other public utility vehicles such as jeeps and buses.

Many buses already use other forms of energy such as compressed natural gas (CNG) while some taxis and jeeps have been modified to use liquefied petroleum gas (LPG).

“As for other forms of public transport, the DOTC and DOE are firming up specific measures," he said.

Power sector slightly affected

Meanwhile, Coloma noted the energy situation was not too affected by the rising prices of oil since only nine percent of electric power is sourced from fossil fuel.

He said only nine percent of electric power is generated through fossil fuel and the 91 percent is sourced from geothermal, hydroelectric and coal.

“Di tayo masyadong apektado, 9 percent lang ang fuel-related," he said. — LBG, GMA News

[ghosthunter]

Although it is a good move, would it be too little too late at this point?

Electric trikes are cheaper and easier to implement because of lower investment as compared to larger vehicles like e-jeepneys and maybe hybrid buses BUT the impact on the riding public would be also smaller, very localized only with electric trikes like the ones in the Fort.

Regarding the trikes in the FORT, I haven't seen them for a while. Are they still being used?

[Mguy]

Any word on Compressed Natural Gas (CNG)? I remember we were pushing this type of fuel for buses then. So what's the byword for this now?

[ghosthunter]

Any word on Compressed Natural Gas (CNG)? I remember we were pushing this type of fuel for buses then. So what's the byword for this now?

Last I have read about it (weeks ago), the government is planning to take over the operation of the two (?) CNG stations.

We can safely consider the government backed CNG bus project a failure.

[Monseratto]

Another reactive policy by our hare-brain politicians. They should have done that in 2008. The local industry will take decades just to catch up with existing battery technology and develop the infrastructure to mass produce these. Aren't there eletric bikes in China already? Why not just give incentives to import?

[uls]

inuna kasi ng gobyerno yung pagparating ng CNG buses kahit wala pa yung CNG infrastructure

mga genius

[sgt_taga]

ok na rin yan. kung matutuloy, maganda rin ang maidudulot sa lahat niyan pati na sa kapaligiran natin.

yun nga lang, anong plano nila sa pag-phase-out nung mga eyesore puvs at paano nila aaregluhin yung mga operators?

teka, this will probably only work if the gov't take over the transportation industry if not, regulate it.

[ghosthunter]

Another reactive policy by our hare-brain politicians. They should have done that in 2008. The local industry will take decades just to catch up with existing battery technology and develop the infrastructure to mass produce these. Aren't there eletric bikes in China already? Why not just give incentives to import?

Advantage doing it now is more choices, even if we just look at China as the supplier of e-trikes as a whole. Choice of more basic lead acid batteries would help minimize long term part sourcing & cost issues but not help in maximizing range.

[ghosthunter]

teka, this will probably only work if the gov't take over the transportation industry if not, regulate it.

You've hit the proverbial nail on the head.

[sgt_taga]

Another reactive policy by our hare-brain politicians. They should have done that in 2008. The local industry will take decades just to catch up with existing battery technology and develop the infrastructure to mass produce these. Aren't there eletric bikes in China already? Why not just give incentives to import?

nga lang brader, nung 2008, si gma pa ang nasa palasyo.

kung sinimulan man niya noon yan, malamang na nire-reverse na yan ng kasalukuyang mga namumuno... ke ayos o hindi - alam naman natin yan eh.

kung matuloy na yan ngayon, sana eh maayos ang plano at pagpapatupad para yung susunod na administrasyon eh ituloy yan...

... yun eh kung ang susunod eh me talino at di puro vendetta ang aasikasuhin.

[Monseratto]

The article is not clear how exactly they'll encourage the 1 million tricycles to go electric. Eh yung supposed implementasyon ng CNG conversions for PUVs is going nowhere itself.

[ghosthunter]

The article is not clear how exactly they'll encourage the 1 million tricycles to go electric. Eh yung supposed implementasyon ng CNG conversions for PUVs is going nowhere itself.

CNG conversion problem is the refueling stations which is obvious to anyone.

As for tricycles going into e-trikes, the issue would be more of the driving range per full change and the length of time to re-charge to 80% and 100%.

One thing I noticed in China years ago was the relative popularity of electric scooters in the major cities. This was before the Chinese economy boomed.

Ironically, today in some of the faster growing cities, the local government has banned electric scooters as well as bicycles and scooters from the city roads to reduce traffic accidents between cars and slower two wheeled vehicles. The justification was to reduce the number of people injured/killed which also affects industrial productivity.

[mahalay]

IMHO, this will fail. Kung tama yung pagkakadinig ko sa news, an e-trike costs around 200k. A regular trike (Honda TMX) cost around 100k. Mas matagal mababawi ng tricycle operators puhunan kung e-trike kukunin nila - kahit pa sabihin nating mahal ang gas ngayon.

[ghosthunter]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTG9DeZZ4c&"]YouTube - E-Trike electric tricycle philippines[/ame]

If you are bored easily, skip the first 3 minutes.

From the youtube page:

rural model starts at 50,000.00. cargo model range 130,000.00 to 150,000.00, patrol / bullet model starts from 140 to 165,000.00 & passenger / tourist model starts from 160,000,00 to 180,000.00 all in Philippine pesos FOB Marilao, Bulacan

[hondaboot]

yeah this is a lame excuse to prop up a dinosaur system

people should just walk, at wag na mag tricycle. kahit mainit. the singaporeans don't have tricycles and they walk to their trains.

or better yet, buy a car. afford it if not walk. i'd rather support electric mini-cars for each private individual than electric tricycles.

[renzo_d10]

yeah this is a lame excuse to prop up a dinosaur system

people should just walk, at wag na mag tricycle. kahit mainit. the singaporeans don't have tricycles and they walk to their trains.

or better yet, buy a car. afford it if not walk. i'd rather support electric mini-cars for each private individual than electric tricycles.

:hysterical:

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And btw, nice sig.

[Monseratto]

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[succubus]

Regarding the trikes in the FORT, I haven't seen them for a while. Are they still being used?

Yes. But I noticed that the number has significantly decreased. I had the chance to ride one. The engine (?) is extremely quiet when idling but it's very slow naman.

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[robot.sonic]

Parang mas ayos pa kung yung mga buses na lang sa EDSA ang gawing CNG. Mayayaman mga operators nyan compared sa mga tricycle operators. Mas kaya nila makabili.