Mid level gaming pc

[Jun aka Pekto]

ngayon ko lang napansin, i5 boards are capable of handling DDR3-2400?

daig pa niya current i7 boards * 1600 lang...

there are also i5 boards that go as cheap as 5.3k the Asrock P55M Pro, CrossFireX ready pa

Gee. DDR3 2400? Newegg doesn't even carry it yet.

The fastest DDR3 they carry is DDR3 2200. 4gb costs $275 (from an obscure brand). Ouch.

[Horsepower]

I think all motherboards switched to Japanese solid-state capacitors after 2006.

No, there are still a lot of non-solid caps.

Gigabyte uses Japanese solid-type caps but there are brands that use china type which of course is inferior.

*haruto, usually makikita mo na bakal talaga yung buong capacitor, walang plastic wrap. Sa Gigabyte, usually mga UD series ang all-solid. Ultra Durable ata ang ibig sabihin sa model coding nila.


*tidus, yeah medyo mahirap maghanap ng Gigabyte kasi high-end brand ito e pero it's worth the wait naman. Ang bread and butter kasi ng mga distro yung mga low-end kasi marami naman gusto yung basta gumagana na lang. hehe

[tidus1203]

*tidus, yeah medyo mahirap maghanap ng Gigabyte kasi high-end brand ito e pero it's worth the wait naman. Ang bread and butter kasi ng mga distro yung mga low-end kasi marami naman gusto yung basta gumagana na lang. hehe

And I am one of those. Basta as long as the components last their usable upgrade cycle (meaning bago sila malaos in terms of specs) I am happy with that already. Matibay nga motherboard mo pero laos na din in terms of specs and features wala na din kwenta... Alam naman natin kano kabilis ang upgrade cycle sa PC industry...

[tidus1203]

who sells 58xx or 57xx series Radeons here? Want to build a new rig.

Bro gusto ko din sana ng 5000 series pero lahat ng mga Gilmore shops WALA. Its either special order or they don't carry it yet... Kaya naplitan ako mag 4000 series, oh well since cheap naman maybe 2 years from now I can buy a new video card and I am confident naman my mobo might still be useful specs wise in 2 years since AM3 socket and DDR3 na din...

[Jun aka Pekto]

No, there are still a lot of non-solid caps.

Gigabyte uses Japanese solid-type caps but there are brands that use china type which of course is inferior.

Hmmm. You're right. I looked only at the AMD side and found several.

But most seem directed towards the older Athlon 64/X2/Phenom/Sempron. The exception would be Zotac motherboards. All were nVidia based and all have the old style capacitors even for the Phenom II.

As for the capacitor type..... So long as it uses the solid-state Conductive Polymer Capacitor (CPC) rather than the old-style electrolytic (soda can ), I'm happy.

Anyway, an article about Gigabyte's approach is here:

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2113

[rion]

who sells 58xx or 57xx series Radeons here? Want to build a new rig.

try reaching this store:

Gee. DDR3 2400? Newegg doesn't even carry it yet.


The fastest DDR3 they carry is DDR3 2200. 4gb costs $275 (from an obscure brand). Ouch.

they are actualy OC mode
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=P55M Pro&s=1156

for 5.2k pesos only.

[Jun aka Pekto]

I could probably do a better job of tying up the cables and make them more appealing to the eyes. But, they're not in the way. So, meh. The only thing I hate with this current build is the big PSU. I was forced to take off the blow hole fan to accommodate it. Well, at least the case is roomy enough for a 5870-sized board.

[rion]

some early testing for one of my hampas lupa rig.



used a used ek water block and a broken rechargable flashlight leds to be powered from the psu soon, as soon as I found out what ohms value should I use for a 4 volts led from a 5 volts psu source.

aparrently, the flashlight board cannot be wet. there is a .5 volts ground in the water. it creates some chemical reaction because of the light short... hanap pa ako ng solusyon...

I will be using a cheap used watercooling kit. I don't think this will be a suitable cooling for OC. but it would just cool down a old used cpu intel e2140 with a 17" crt monitor anyway. lol

[Jun aka Pekto]

some early testing for one of my hampas lupa rig.



used a used ek water block and a broken rechargable flashlight leds to be powered from the psu soon, as soon as I found out what ohms value should I use for a 4 volts led from a 5 volts psu source.

aparrently, the flashlight board cannot be wet. there is a .5 volts ground in the water. it creates some chemical reaction because of the light short... hanap pa ako ng solusyon...

I will be using a cheap used watercooling kit. I don't think this will be a suitable cooling for OC. but it would just cool down a old used cpu intel e2140 with a 17" crt monitor anyway. lol

Geez. What kind of overclock are you plannning? 2X rated speed?

I like my Phenom II X3 720 old-fashioned air-cooled. It's the classic Volkswagen Beetle of pc's. The only concession I made is to unlock the 4th core.

[rion]

not really, I'm using a ready kit for that. a cheapo... and used pa. lol

this kit would probably make a small difference compared to stock fan.



I just want to try watercooling at the least cost as possible... though mahal parin in the end. specialy that reservoir and the barb.

damage spent:

used Coolermaster water cooling kit complete pump+block+rads = 2,300
used ek 250ml waterblock = 2,900
used bitspower barbs 2pcs = 500 pesos

=5,700


my main rig is using Coolermaster V8. I'm comfortable with fans because signs of worn out fan is obvious. sa water pump, di masyado napapansin... so I feel safe with fans for 24/7 use.




costs 2,600 today

[Jun aka Pekto]

$5700 doesn't sound too bad. There are other kits costing 4x as much.


I suppose I'd try water-cooling too if I was over there where it's hot.

Here, outside temperatures tonight will drop to -9C (and it's only November). I could do safe overclocking if I turn the heat off to the computer room. Maybe I can use the pc to keep the room warm.

The room does feel warmer if I disable sleep mode and leave the pc on overnight.

[rion]

$5700 doesn't sound too bad. There are other kits costing 4x as much.


I suppose I'd try water-cooling too if I was over there where it's hot.

Here, outside temperatures tonight will drop to -9C (and it's only November). I could do safe overclocking if I turn the heat off to the computer room. Maybe I can use the pc to keep the room warm.

The room does feel warmer if I disable sleep mode and leave the pc on overnight.

yeah, I suppose... a real kit is no where that price indeed. lol

a rad alone would cost: 3.5k-5k
pump: 4k-6k
waterblock: 2k-5k
reservoir: 2k-4k
tubing: 250 per foot

= super damage. lol

though *5.7k, it can buy me a GTS 250 or 4850 video card. lol

same here, despite my cpu is very cool and not overclocked when in 24/7 mode. I can feel my room being warmer.

[Horsepower]

Actually, you can also try an aquarium or a little aquarium with lots of ice, submersible pump and a copper water block.

you can also experiment if the cpu heat/ice blocks can kill goldfishes. :bwahaha:

[rion]

ay uu, puwede.

someone over tpc is actualy selling his DIY watercooling kit now. have he posted earlier, I would have buy his stuff.

just look at his waterblock, I wonder how he did it...



1,500 rad+fan and aquarium pump

[Haruto]

hello mga sirs,

tanong ko lang.. okay po ba ang vc na 9400gt 1gb ddr2? inno3d?

[tidus1203]

Depende saan mo gagamitin? Pero para sakin try getting yung 9600GT na lang yun ang IMO (among Nvidia) the best bang for the buck.

[Haruto]

*tidus1203

Sir sa gaming and a lil' photo editing and basic 3d-modelling lang po. yung 9600gt po how much ang range nun?

[Horsepower]

if you're not into gaming and more of a pro like you edit and do CADD, you should consider QuadroFX or FireGL, even 2nd hand ones..

[rion]

9400gt is lame. a 1,100 pesos 2600pro is even better.

for reference:

49. 8800GT 512MB/ 9800GT 512mb (same card)
50. HD2900XT CrossFire
51. 7900GTX SLI
52. HD3870 512MB gDDR4
53. 9600GT 1gb
54. 9600GT 512
55. HD3850 256mb CrossFire
56. 9600GSO/8800GS 768mb OC
57. HD4670 512
58. HD3870 512MB gDDR3
59. HD2900XT 1GB
60. HD2900Pro 1GB
61. HD2900XT 512MB
62. HD2900Pro 512MB
63. X1900 XT CrossFire
64. X1950 XTX CrossFire
65. 7800GTX 512mb SLI
66. 7950GX2 1gb Quad SLI
67. X1900 XTX CrossFire
68. 7950GT 512mb SLI
69. 7900GT 256mb SLI
70. 8600GTS 256mb SLI
71. 8800GTS 640MB
72. HD3850 512MB
73. 8800GT 256MB
74. 8800GTS 320MB
75. 7950GX2
76. 8800GS/9600GSO 384mb
77. HD 3850 256MB
78. HD2900GT
79. 8600GT 256mb gDDR3 SLI
80. X1950XTX
81. X1900XTX
82. X1950XT
83. X1900XT 512MB
84. 7900GTX
85. X1900XT 256MB
86. 7900GTO
87. 7800GTX 512MB
88. 7950GT
89. X1650 XT Crossfire
90. X1950Pro 512MB
91. X1950Pro 256MB
92. 7600GT SLI
93. 7900GT 512MB
94. 8600GTS
95. 9500GT 256 gDDR3
96. X1800XT 512MB
97. 7900GT 256MB
98. X1800XT 256MB
99. X1900GT
100. X1950GT
101. 8600GT 512MB
102. 8600GT 256MB
103. X1900GT Rev2
104. 7800GTX 256MB
105. 7900GS
106. 7800GT
107. 6800GT SLI
108. HD2600 Pro Crossfire
109. 7600GS SLI
110. X1800XL
111. 7800GS
112. X1800GTO
113. HD2600XT
114. HD3650
115. X1650XT
116. X850XTPE
117. 7600GT
118. X850XT
119. 7600GTS
120. HD2600Pro
121. X800XT/PE
122. 6800Ultra/EE
123. 6800GT
124. 6800GS
125. X800XL
126. X850Pro
127. X800pro
128. X800GTO/GTO2
129. 9400GT
130. 8500GT
131. Chrome 440GTX
132. Chrome 430
133. X1650Pro
134. X1600XT
135. 7600GS

[Jun aka Pekto]

Maybe I'm just imagining things. But, when I was tying to find an HD 5850 earlier this month, I could've sworn the price was around $260.00 at newegg.com

Now, it's still hard to find and the price at newegg.com has jumped up to $309.99.

WTF???????

My HD 5770 is holding steady at $164.99

The HD 5870 price went up to $409.99

For you guys with money to burn, the HD 5970 is only $599.99