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[sean-archer]

4k is 4k. Sabagay iba iba appreciation natin sa bagay bagay na nakikita natin. When you talk of viewing experience, quality is first than size, well that's just me.

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[jut703]

4k is 4k. Sabagay iba iba appreciation natin sa bagay bagay na nakikita natin. When you talk of viewing experience, quality is first than size, well that's just me.

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Agree. A decade ago people were saying that 1080p was unnecessary and most people just bought 720p TVs, even for 40" TVs which were already quite big back then. But now almost everything is at least 1080p and there's a very visible difference between 1080p and 720p.

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[LancerA174A]

As muxh as possible , stay away from smart tvs with Os, kasi hackable thru backdoors, thru the router ang tira nyan

Ang ok na TV is firmware type upgrades that serve the purpose, Netflix, Youtube maybe Facebook Video in the near future

Ang hirap pag lagi na hack ang tv mo, worst case scenario back and forth ka sa service center, eh pano kung 75” na tv mo, bigat nun, pain in the ass to carry to and fro

Sony's lineup kasi is mostly runs on Android TV platform for the mid to the higher end models, they also get the higher end panels and better picture processors kaya wala din choice, I've been using Android phones naman for years, never had security issues din. They also offer 2-year home service warranty kaya pwede na din. [emoji28]

Sa pagkakaintindi ko naman, iba ang processor ng OS, iba din and picture processor kaya I don't think it would matter sa picture quality if a Smart TV is powered by Mediatek, Qualcomm, or Huawei's.

Android really needs to step up their game sa TV platform nila, medyo laggy talaga.

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[Verbl Kint]

In my understanding,

Your understanding is grossly incorrect.


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[kagalingan]

Ano ba yan mga pinaguusapan nyo. Magyear 2020 na eh wala pa din nakakapalag kay LG webOS.


Best Smart TV 2019: every smart TV platform and which set does it best
By Nick Pino, Henry St Leger 2019-12-13T16:34:09Z

We compare the best connected TV services

WebOS (found on 2019 LG OLED, Nano Cell and some UHD TVs)

Setup: OK | Ease of use: Good | Speed: Better | Number of apps: Good | Universal search: OK

Pros: Alexa and Google Assistant integration. Fast to navigate.
Cons: No major flaws!
LG rewrote the rulebook for smart TV platforms with its webOS, starting the trend for minimal, simplified user interfaces back in 2014.

Since then it's been gradually refining its offering, leading us to the all-new WebOS 4.5 launching in 2019 on the latest and best LG TVs.

The UI, which is still built around a Launch Bar for apps, inputs and features, remains tidy and customizable this year, plus you can change the running order to best suit how you use the set. If you like to Miracast images from your smartphone, grab the Screen Share app with LG's cursor-based Magic Remote and move up further up the pecking order.

App support is also surprisingly good: Netflix streams in 4K with both HDR and Dolby Vision, as well as Dolby Atmos audio when available. There's also Amazon with UHD HDR and YouTube in 4K. Other options include Now TV, Sky Store, Wuaki.TV, plus all the main channel catch-up services.

As we’ve seen on earlier webOS builds, these streaming apps remain open and live, even when you navigate away from them. This means you can pause Star Trek Discovery, browse the TV listings for The Walking Dead, and then return to the action.

Other cool features recently added to the platform include 360-degree video playback (from 360-degree videos on YouTube), support for both Google Assistant and Alexa, and an OLED still image gallery. LG TVs also have Freeview Play in the UK, which means a full larder of catch-up television.

For US viewers, there's Netflix, Amazon, YouTube and Google Play TV and Movies, as well as Hulu, VUDU, MLB.TV, and FandangoNow.

Android TV (found on 2019 Sony 4K and OLED TVs)

Setup: OK | Ease of use: Good | Speed: OK | Number of apps: Better | Universal search: Better

Pros: Recommended content row. Clean layout.
Cons: Most builds are very buggy and prone to crashing.
Android TV is the nearest the smart TV universe has to a standardized operating system, but there are still variations between brand executions.

Sony has the most comprehensive Google solution. For UK viewers, it has rather cleverly layered a YouView program guide platform on top, deftly addressing one of Android TV’s big weaknesses – catch-up TV provision. This YouView app ensures that all the main catch-up services are provided, and accessible via a roll-back 7-day EPG.

Other supporters of Android TV are Philips (via maker TP Vision) and in the US, Sharp and Hisense. It’s also available on the Nvidia Shield streaming device.

While other TV platforms make a virtue of their minimalism, Android stacks the screen with various layers of content: There’s also a row of specific Sony selected content, followed by apps for Netflix, Amazon Video, links to the Google Play Store, Google Play Music, Google Play Movies and TV, YouTube and so on.

Owners of Android phones/tablets can use their device to control Android TVs via Sony’s TV SideView app, and Google Assistant continues to get more and more useful with its own Android TV integration.

Android TV devices also have Chromecast built-in, which simplifies streaming from mobile Android devices (iOS users can download the AirBuddy app to Google Cast). Controllers from Logitech and Razer also promise gaming without needing a console.

There is a caveat though. In our experience, Android is the least stable of the various smart platforms, with Sony TVs exhibiting more than their fair share of failures – it’s not unusual to be notified that various aspects of the Android platform have stopped working, and some of these messages are completely inscrutable (usually the best option is to simply restart the TV).

To be fair to Google, this is becoming less of an issue as successive Android TV updates roll out – the latest incarnation is particularly slick on the Nvidia Shield, for example – but there's still room for improvement.

Best Smart TV 219: every smart TV platform and which set does it best | TechRadar

Masyado na mahaba so kayo na magcheck sa link meron pa roku, tizen...etc

[Verbl Kint]

Android really needs to step up their game sa TV platform nila, medyo laggy talaga.

The smoothest one for me would be WebOS (LG only) followed by Roku (not available here) then Android TV. Android is a bit more proc+memory heavy but the newer models from 2019 are much more fluid.

Worst of all is Tizen (Samsung).

However, in terms of apps and updates, Android is leagues ahead of all the others. Obsolescence for LGs and Samsungs happens after 18-24 months. Both these companies typically stop updates on the 18th month.

Android will still have useful apps further down the timeline. The capability to run Kodi and VLC alone will outlive the usefulness of a Samsung or LG.

There is just so much more you could do with Android.

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[monty_GTV]

Our 4-year-old Devant already has a black vertical line of dead pixels right down the middle of the screen. All of its buttons are dead and the earphone plug is loose.

I was about to get a TCL to replace the Devant but the missus said our next TV will be OLED or nothing. Tiis muna sa vertical line until my savings and the price of an LG 55C9 meet.

whats the price of the new oled lg 55c9?

i had the 55c8 last year and still in very good condition. no intention to replace or upgrade any time soon[emoji39]

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[minicarph]

The smoothest one for me would be WebOS (LG only) followed by Roku (not available here) then Android TV. Android is a bit more proc+memory heavy but the newer models from 2019 are much more fluid.

Worst of all is Tizen (Samsung).

However, in terms of apps and updates, Android is leagues ahead of all the others. Obsolescence for LGs and Samsungs happens after 18-24 months. Both these companies typically stop updates on the 18th month.

Android will still have useful apps further down the timeline. The capability to run Kodi and VLC alone will outlive the usefulness of a Samsung or LG.

There is just so much more you could do with Android.

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Nakaka-embed na ng spyware/malware ngaun sa mga .mp4, pag yan nag load sa mga Android TV niyo lalo babagal yan tapos masisira, not because of the panel itself but the software. Imagine a dead android tv that eont boot just because of a corrupted Android

Ang porblema sa mga android tv ngaun, it only boasts of CPU but most have no GPU. cPU and GPu must run side bu side to have the smoothest movement,

Sa CPu nga tiped na sila, tapos mag GPU pa,

Thats why Devant, Skyworth and others lowly brands are not offering Android tvs but only Smart TVs

Pag ang Android TV sing presyo ng smart TV, then malamang lumang Android version lang yun, like the cheap china amartphones and tablets

[minicarph]

4k is 4k. Sabagay iba iba appreciation natin sa bagay bagay na nakikita natin. When you talk of viewing experience, quality is first than size, well that's just me.

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Compressed 4k lang naman ginagamit ng mga tvs ngaun coz true high def monitors cost 3000 dollars up like the new Apple Monitor

Pro Display XDR - Apple

Kaya ewan ko kung ano yun nakikita nyo malaking difference in terms of pixels, baka colors lang and contrast, it tricks the eye you know.


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Maybe we just do the math

4K video is significantly larger than 1080p and as a result requires a lot more storage space. While a single minute 1080p footage at the standard 30 frames per second requires only 130 MB, a 4K video at the same framerate will require a whopping 375 Mb.

A one minute 4k video is 375MB, convert it to megabits, that is 3000 megabits per minute. Divide 3000 megabits / 60 seconds is 50mb / sec


So for you to run an honest to goodness 4k tulfo video which is recorded at 30 fps, you need a bandwidth speed of 50Mbps sa PlDT Fiber

But action movies like Starwars and avengers are recorded at 60 fps or even 120 fps to have smoother movement

So in theory, you must at least 100Mbps or 200mbps fiber connection to run a full 4k avengers movies

So my question is sino senyo naka 200 mbps ngaun? So sayang lang 4k tv nyo unless you have a bluray or a downloaded *******.

But *******s are usually compressed 4k na yan

Antayin nyo na lang 5G, para magkaron na ng 100Gbps bandwidth, dyan sigurado makaka run kayo ng honest to goodness 4k video even at 240fps

[Archerfish]

So my question is sino senyo naka 200 mbps ngaun? So sayang lang 4k tv nyo unless you have a bluray or a downloaded *******.

But *******s are usually compressed 4k na yan

Antayin nyo na lang 5G, para magkaron na ng 100Gbps bandwidth, dyan sigurado makaka run kayo ng honest to goodness 4k video even at 240fps

I'm curious, what letters are those asterisks?

[jut703]

Compressed 4k lang naman ginagamit ng mga tvs ngaun coz true high def monitors cost 3000 dollars up like the new Apple Monitor

Pro Display XDR - Apple

Kaya ewan ko kung ano yun nakikita nyo malaking difference in terms of pixels, baka colors lang and contrast, it tricks the eye you know.


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Maybe we just do the math



A one minute 4k video is 375MB, convert it to megabits, that is 3000 megabits per minute. Divide 3000 megabits / 60 seconds is 50mb / sec


So for you to run an honest to goodness 4k tulfo video which is recorded at 30 fps, you need a bandwidth speed of 50Mbps sa PlDT Fiber

But action movies like Starwars and avengers are recorded at 60 fps or even 120 fps to have smoother movement

So in theory, you must at least 100Mbps or 200mbps fiber connection to run a full 4k avengers movies

So my question is sino senyo naka 200 mbps ngaun? So sayang lang 4k tv nyo unless you have a bluray or a downloaded *******.

But *******s are usually compressed 4k na yan

Antayin nyo na lang 5G, para magkaron na ng 100Gbps bandwidth, dyan sigurado makaka run kayo ng honest to goodness 4k video even at 240fps

Nagmamarunong ka na naman. [emoji854]

It's not the TVs that have compressed 4K - it's the streaming. A pixel is a pixel - so a Devant 4K TV really has a 3840x2160 resolution. A higher end TV with the same 4K resolution will have better contrast and color reproduction, but the resolution stays the same between them.

An Apple XDR display is a 32" 6K monitor (6016x3384) with 218 ppi density, while a typical 4K 55" TV will have 80 PPI. You don't need very high pixel density on a TV because you watch a few feet away, whereas you are only a few inches away from a monitor when you work on professional creatives (i.e. photo, video, digital art). Net, pointless comparison.

Going back to the discussion on compressed streaming - Netflix only requires 15 mbps to stream their compressed 4K, but obviously their compressed 4K is still better than their compressed 1080p. An uncompressed 1080p BluRay will be generally better than compressed 4K, but as compression algorithms get better over time (big leap from H264 to H265 in recent years), people will be able to stream higher quality compressed content which will maximize their 4K screens.

In general, a video with 1:10 compression (i.e. 10% of uncompressed size) will not be discernable to the human eye if watched from a proper viewing distance. You'll have to be pixel peeping to really find the difference.

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[LancerA174A]

The smoothest one for me would be WebOS (LG only) followed by Roku (not available here) then Android TV. Android is a bit more proc+memory heavy but the newer models from 2019 are much more fluid.

Worst of all is Tizen (Samsung).

However, in terms of apps and updates, Android is leagues ahead of all the others. Obsolescence for LGs and Samsungs happens after 18-24 months. Both these companies typically stop updates on the 18th month.

Android will still have useful apps further down the timeline. The capability to run Kodi and VLC alone will outlive the usefulness of a Samsung or LG.

There is just so much more you could do with Android.

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Yes sir I've read about that one, though I personally don't like the UI. Hindi yata priority ng Google yung Android TV and Android Wear platforms, hopefully they'll be more flexible in terms of OEM-specific customizations like Android smartphones.

Sony started rolling out Android Pie to their US models, no word about their Asian models though.

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[sean-archer]

I'm curious, what letters are those asterisks?

Bwhahha. Na curious din ako sir archerfish. Probably they're about global warming or that Mars habitation project.

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[jut703]

Bwhahha. Na curious din ako sir archerfish. Probably they're about global warming or that Mars habitation project.

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T0rrent yung bawal na word.

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[minicarph]

Nagmamarunong ka na naman. [emoji854]

Going back to the discussion on compressed streaming - Netflix only requires 15 mbps to stream their compressed 4K, but obviously their compressed 4K is still better than their compressed 1080p. An uncompressed 1080p BluRay will be generally better than compressed 4K, but as compression algorithms get better over time (big leap from H264 to H265 in recent years), people will be able to stream higher quality compressed content which will maximize their 4K screens.

In general, a video with 1:10 compression (i.e. 10% of uncompressed size) will not be discernable to the human eye if watched from a proper viewing distance. You'll have to be pixel peeping to really find the difference.

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ikaw na din nagsabi juts, an uncompressed 1080p is better than a compressed 4k coz sobrang daming data loss sa compression

You know what the problem is with TVs, they can not simulate true blacks. Kaya tignan nyo final battle sa end game which was done in a dark environment, dun nyo ma-appreciate talaga if the Avengers End Game 4k is truly 4k. And itÂ’s not.

Those scenes can only be watched genuinely in a very good monitor like the Apple TV or some studio high equipments of disney or pixar or whatever

Nag-aral kasi ako ng Youtube vlogging, juts. Next month im gonna take the international Google test on Youtube Content Ownership and part of the course is video size

Kaya wala sense ang 4k TV and even our own PLdT advertised speeds dito eh coz we”ll never truly watch a true 4k video shot from a high end Canon or Sony Vlogger DSLR.

Sa Scandinavia siguro pwede, I heard theyÂ’re running 1GBps internet there. And also 5G, which China is spearheading in the AsEAN region.
Eh kaya lang dami galit China ngaun at matinde ang resistance ng US particularly sa Huawei.

If Huawei has its way on the future of video and bandwidth, mukang back to stone age ang technology ng USA in the next 3 years

So given all these, nag Devant na lang ako, mura na, yakang yaka pa 1080p.


Sa torrreeent, compute mo from my quote above: a 1 minute 4k video is already at 370MB , so avengers end game at 3 hours is 370mb x 90 min = 33GB.

But wait thatÂ’s only 30fps, action flicks are 60 fps or higher, say 120 fps, so x4
33GB x 4 = thatÂ’s more than a 100 gigs just for Avengers Part 4.

Try to dig a little deeper sa mga high end samsung or sony 4k tv nyo, I doubt if even it has 8GB internal memory.

So how do you load a 100GIgs video on a TV that only has 4GB standard memory. Even at 1:10 compression or 10% compression or 10GB. the TV will have to have some sort of hard drive caching, for the other 6GB,

Normal mechanical drives are 7200rpm, so mabagal. So dapat SSD na ang gamit nyo, how much is a 1TB SSD, , maybe 9k each. I doubt meron kayo ganyan ngsun

Kaya nga 4k is just but a marketing propaganda, na hooked kayo lahat into thunking that your TVs are high end.

Eto nga last binile ko , 55” Smart TV UHD, the Ansons salespeson, pinagmamalaki nya nya ser UHD na TV nyo, kaya na 4k. Umismile na lang ako

[jut703]

ikaw na din nagsabi juts, an uncompressed 1080p is better than a compressed 4k coz sobrang daming data loss sa compression

Except that you won't find uncompressed 1080p outside of a movie studio. Even BluRay is still compressed, although at a much higher bitrate than Netflix streams. Quality of BluRay 1080p (higher bit rate) is roughly the same as that of Netflix 4K (lower bit rate).

If I were to sum up what you're fussing about, it's that you can improve video quality through 2 ways - keeping the standard 1080p resolution but increasing bitrate, or increasing resolution to 4K while maintaining bitrate. Streaming sites utilize the latter (for marketing purposes) but it's not necessarily better or worse than going for higher bitrate 1080p. I

f you want the former, go for a BluRay player and deal with the limited content and more expensive discs vs streaming. Net, what you saved by going for a 1080p TV, you would end up spending on a Bluray system. [emoji23]

You know what the problem is with TVs, they can not simulate true blacks.

Dude, OLEDs. Suggest you read about them. OLEDs have true blacks because they can turn pixels off.

Those scenes can only be watched genuinely in a very good monitor like the Apple TV or some studio high equipments of disney or pixar or whatever

The Apple TV is not a TV, it's a streaming device. Apple does not make TVs. [emoji28]




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[Archerfish]

T0rrent yung bawal na word.

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That's it! The feeling is like quench thirsting.

Or thirst quenching?
[emoji3]

[Archerfish]

The Apple TV is not a TV, it's a streaming device. Apple does not make TVs. [emoji28]




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It is because there is "Samsung TV" so there must be an "Apple TV"!
[emoji3]

Good discussion by the way, I'm learning.

[shadow]

Advance kasi si mini. Meron kasing tsismis na mag release apple ng sariling TV.

Anyway, I've checked the TCL TVs and they looked ok. Basta android TV dapat ang maganda?
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[LancerA174A]

ikaw na din nagsabi juts, an uncompressed 1080p is better than a compressed 4k coz sobrang daming data loss sa compression

You know what the problem is with TVs, they can not simulate true blacks. Kaya tignan nyo final battle sa end game which was done in a dark environment, dun nyo ma-appreciate talaga if the Avengers End Game 4k is truly 4k. And itÂ’s not.

Those scenes can only be watched genuinely in a very good monitor like the Apple TV or some studio high equipments of disney or pixar or whatever

Nag-aral kasi ako ng Youtube vlogging, juts. Next month im gonna take the international Google test on Youtube Content Ownership and part of the course is video size

Kaya wala sense ang 4k TV and even our own PLdT advertised speeds dito eh coz we”ll never truly watch a true 4k video shot from a high end Canon or Sony Vlogger DSLR.

Sa Scandinavia siguro pwede, I heard theyÂ’re running 1GBps internet there. And also 5G, which China is spearheading in the AsEAN region.
Eh kaya lang dami galit China ngaun at matinde ang resistance ng US particularly sa Huawei.

If Huawei has its way on the future of video and bandwidth, mukang back to stone age ang technology ng USA in the next 3 years

So given all these, nag Devant na lang ako, mura na, yakang yaka pa 1080p.


Sa torrreeent, compute mo from my quote above: a 1 minute 4k video is already at 370MB , so avengers end game at 3 hours is 370mb x 90 min = 33GB.

But wait thatÂ’s only 30fps, action flicks are 60 fps or higher, say 120 fps, so x4
33GB x 4 = thatÂ’s more than a 100 gigs just for Avengers Part 4.

Try to dig a little deeper sa mga high end samsung or sony 4k tv nyo, I doubt if even it has 8GB internal memory.

So how do you load a 100GIgs video on a TV that only has 4GB standard memory. Even at 1:10 compression or 10% compression or 10GB. the TV will have to have some sort of hard drive caching, for the other 6GB,

Normal mechanical drives are 7200rpm, so mabagal. So dapat SSD na ang gamit nyo, how much is a 1TB SSD, , maybe 9k each. I doubt meron kayo ganyan ngsun

Kaya nga 4k is just but a marketing propaganda, na hooked kayo lahat into thunking that your TVs are high end.

Eto nga last binile ko , 55” Smart TV UHD, the Ansons salespeson, pinagmamalaki nya nya ser UHD na TV nyo, kaya na 4k. Umismile na lang ako

A midrange BRAVIA Android TV shows a total of 8.8GB internal ROM, 8GB is available for the user's downloaded apps, I don't think they're meant to store large photos and videos like on a normal phone/tablet.

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