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    is it safe to use a laptop w/o battery? i'll just connect it to the power outlet?

    the laptop is just being used here at home, and hardly taken out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    is it safe to use a laptop w/o battery? i'll just connect it to the power outlet?

    the laptop is just being used here at home, and hardly taken out.
    yeah as per vendors advice it is definitely useful to use your laptop w/o battery... this is because if you use the laptop with battery it will automatically charge it, once such is fully charge you cannot pull it out from the laptop while it is running and eventually your battery will be over charged. so better use your laptop without battery to prolong your batteries life. it is useful for emergency purposes only so better take care of your OEM battery. hehehehe

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    JUST make sure that the power cord is plugged in to a UPS so you can still power down your laptop safely if a power outage strikes.

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    ^^+111

    Commercial power is notorious for fluctuation and voltage sag that can surely damage your HDD.

    You can leave your charger and batteries connected indefinitely without damaging batteries because modern electronics have tickle/float-charge mechanism. Its a myth nowdays that batteries overcharge.

    Truth is, repeated discharge and charge cycle and reaching full discharge state wears battery faster, than leaving your batteries connected to AC.

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    All laptops have circuitry built-in to prevent overcharging. It's actually the heat generated by the laptop that's responsible in reducing the life of the battery.

    If your laptop is used inside an airconditioned room or if you're using a proper laptop cooling pad, you can leave the battery inserted. This will help prevent data loss in case of a power failure.

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    calibrate yung battery also from time to time, this is available on the bios option, to optimize battery performance in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    is it safe to use a laptop w/o battery? i'll just connect it to the power outlet?

    the laptop is just being used here at home, and hardly taken out.

    It is safe to use the laptop/notebook PC without the battery attached if you just always use it connected to the AC outlet.

    You can use a UPS to give your laptop the same power protection as having its battery still attached.

    A UPS is much cheaper (you can buy one just over P1k in price) than a replacement battery for your laptop. Typically a six-cell laptop battery would cost P5K and up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    It is safe to use the laptop/notebook PC without the battery attached if you just always use it connected to the AC outlet.

    You can use a UPS to give your laptop the same power protection as having its battery still attached.

    A UPS is much cheaper (you can buy one just over P1k in price) than a replacement battery for your laptop. Typically a six-cell laptop battery would cost P5K and up.

    thank you for the replies po!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 12vdc View Post
    ^^+111

    Commercial power is notorious for fluctuation and voltage sag that can surely damage your HDD.

    You can leave your charger and batteries connected indefinitely without damaging batteries because modern electronics have tickle/float-charge mechanism. Its a myth nowdays that batteries overcharge.

    Truth is, repeated discharge and charge cycle and reaching full discharge state wears battery faster, than leaving your batteries connected to AC.
    This statement might be true but I will not trust.
    The battery of my 6-mos old brand new acquired acer was damaged after 2-mos all time plugged on ac power with battery connected (was used for ******* files download/seed days and nites, 24/7). I learned my lesson so now I remove the battery if use at home using ac power connection. I use the battery twice a week just to fully discharge then recharge to keep it at top condition.

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    where can i buy ups na less than 2k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by african888 View Post
    where can i buy ups na less than 2k?
    CDRKING sells a UPS for around P1,600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    CDRKING sells a UPS for around P1,600.
    ok will check it out at the vmall outlet

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    ok lang w/o the laptop battery; we usually remove the battery to reduce the weight (since the battery is busted and the office hasn't gotten around to buying a replacement)

    a note about UPSes: the entry level ones tend to conk out pretty fast, something like 1 year plus lang. Medyo unstable talaga ung power sa office, so that may be a contributing factor, pero we had one batch os APC UPSes that conked out -- di lang ung battery, pati ung circuitry tinamaan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    a note about UPSes: the entry level ones tend to conk out pretty fast, something like 1 year plus lang. Medyo unstable talaga ung power sa office, so that may be a contributing factor, pero we had one batch os APC UPSes that conked out -- di lang ung battery, pati ung circuitry tinamaan.
    In my experience with UPS devices including the APC brand, you need to change the battery every 1 to 2 years to keep it running well.

    I have a couple of no-brand 500VA UPS and they still work after ten years. I just replace the battery every 1.5 years. We also have a few APC UPS units at the office and two of them have their circuits damaged beyond repair.

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    sir gh, anong brand gamit nyo? Galit na ako sa APC ngayon B)

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    In my case, APC has been very reliable. Got 5 of em at home; Two Smart-UPS, two RS and one CS.

    The Smart ones are more than 8 y/o.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    sir gh, anong brand gamit nyo? Galit na ako sa APC ngayon B)
    I just buy whatever is available at PC Express. I don't remember if was the Apollo or Intex UPS

    Bought them less than a year ago, costing at around P1,400 each for 600VA rating, it's a pretty good deal. So far they've done a good job with the recent power blackouts we are having at the office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisshorn View Post
    This statement might be true but I will not trust.
    The battery of my 6-mos old brand new acquired acer was damaged after 2-mos all time plugged on ac power with battery connected (was used for ******* files download/seed days and nites, 24/7). I learned my lesson so now I remove the battery if use at home using ac power connection. I use the battery twice a week just to fully discharge then recharge to keep it at top condition.
    [SIZE=2]Busted batteries after 6months is quite extraordinary, you should have it replaced Acer has 1yr warranty including batteries. Yours maybe not isolated because my co-worker have this issue also with Acer and battery was replaced.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=2]Also check temperature, sir OJ88 is right high temp wears batteries fast. Although in my office lappy are used in controlled environment there are still some lemon batteries, even batteries that burst into flames. I think if you are running for 24-hrs operation and usually unattended, it is safer to remove batteries but with the provision of a reliable UPS.[/SIZE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghosthunter View Post
    In my experience with UPS devices including the APC brand, you need to change the battery every 1 to 2 years to keep it running well.

    I have a couple of no-brand 500VA UPS and they still work after ten years. I just replace the battery every 1.5 years. We also have a few APC UPS units at the office and two of them have their circuits damaged beyond repair.
    how much naman po cost ng battery for the ups?

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    while on the ups topic, what does the UPS with 600va mean? since it has multiple sockets, how many laptops/desktops can it power up?

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