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    Mabagal na itong desktop pc ko which is worth 70k during college days.

    My old set up was
    Pentinum 4 3.00Ghz
    512 RAM
    Windows XP Professional
    DVD writer by Sony
    DVD rom by Samsung
    D-link modem
    ATi Radeon Videocard
    Asus Motherboard
    Imaster pero pinalitan na.

    Ito balak kong specs

    Intel i7
    1TB hard disk seagate
    8gb memory
    Geforce video card probably worth 5k
    DVD writer sony
    DVD rom samsung
    Windows 8 OS
    Motherboard(wala pa akong alam na brand basta yung sinabi ni GH na with six or more SATA sockets (with RAID options), eSATA ports, USB 3.0.
    Power supply ano ba magandang brand nito?

    Sobra sobra na ba or kulang pa yung 50k dito?

    Yung pwede pang gaming din at mabilis yung pc.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by gearspeed; October 25th, 2013 at 04:16 PM.

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    70K yang old setup mo?? anong year yan..

    masyadong mahal ang 50K kung ngayon ka mag setup.. this one is less than 40K with 21.5 LED Monitor na..

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    2002 ata yung old set up ng pc ko.
    Mukhang ok yung apex lumina na set up ah kaso ayoko lang nung MSi motherboard niya.hehe.
    Last edited by gearspeed; October 25th, 2013 at 04:27 PM.

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    1. Are you planning to use RAID sir? you mentioned just one 1TB hd kasi. If not, the 6 SATA ports aren't really necessary...although most high end motherboards do have this already.

    2. Have you considered using SSDs? Dunno about price/performance vs RAID, but it's definitely a cleaner setup.

    3. You listed two optical drives, any particular reason?

    4. Re power supplies: you may want to check kung pwede pa gamitin uli yung old power supply nyo. Madalas gamitin dito sa office is yung Corsair 650W

    5. Are you planning to use the old PC casing? What type po? You may want to consider buying a gamer casing

    6. You may want to look into the newer cooling equipment kids are using these days, esp. if you're gonna OC the crap out of your rig.

    Not a gamer btw; last PC game i played was Heroes 3 :D
    Last edited by badkuk; October 25th, 2013 at 04:30 PM.

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    2 DVD drive ko kasi para mabasa yung ibang cd kasi hindi lahat nababasa eh.
    Ibebenta ko na yung old pc namin after namin makabili ng bagong pc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Not a gamer btw; last PC game i played was Heroes 3 :D
    Heroes 3! I wish there's a similar game in iOS or Android

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    Mahal naman ng pc mo. Baka 800 hp din yan ha.

    Joke lang gs. Trolling mode lang.

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    For a 50K pc thats to expensive. A decent gaming/workstation pc is only worth around SGD 500.00=Php 17000.00. Monitor Full HD 20 inch LED monitor only cost around SGD230.00 = Php 7820. All in all it should be only around Php 24820.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearspeed View Post
    Mabagal na itong desktop pc ko which is worth 70k during college days.

    My old set up was
    Pentinum 4 3.00Ghz
    512 RAM
    Windows XP Professional
    DVD writer by Sony
    DVD rom by Samsung
    D-link modem
    ATi Radeon Videocard
    Asus Motherboard
    Imaster pero pinalitan na.

    Ito balak kong specs

    Intel i7
    1TB hard disk seagate
    8gb memory
    Geforce video card probably worth 5k
    DVD writer sony
    DVD rom samsung
    Windows 8 OS
    Motherboard(wala pa akong alam na brand basta yung sinabi ni GH na with six or more SATA sockets (with RAID options), eSATA ports, USB 3.0.
    Power supply ano ba magandang brand nito?

    Sobra sobra na ba or kulang pa yung 50k dito?

    Yung pwede pang gaming din at mabilis yung pc.

    Thanks.
    Punta ka either eton cyberpod ortigas or Sa computer stores sa gilmore manila sir, bka makuha mo pa ng mas mura. Branded POwer supply kunin mo para tumagal ang PC mo.

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    Sa makate sa pera aka makati ko kasi binili yun. Sabi ng kaibigan ko cheap daw masyado yung geforce na worth 5k.hahaha.
    Ano ba magandang brand na power supply.Yung last ko imaster eh.
    Last edited by gearspeed; October 26th, 2013 at 01:22 PM.

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    For power. Seasonic, get something na at least Gold rated. There are usually 2 versions: modular(i.e. you can remove unused cables) or the regular one.
    Bahala ka na kung alin trip mo. And don't be fooled on buying 1000W capacities, in a simple rig you'd barely reach 600w, sayang lang pera.

    the "best" i7 processor today is the Intel Core i7-3930K, unfortunately dyan pa lang lagpas kalahati ng ng budget mo.

    For Ram, unless you are using 32bit OS (i.e. WinXP) get more than 8gb. 16gb would be good.

    For motherboard, depende yan. and pointless kumuha ng meron madaming RAID slots kung di mo naman gagamitin.
    Just get something good with the basic features you need.

    For videocard. for either brand entry level lang yung worth 5k, sayang yung processor mo kung yan kukunin mo.


    more info on ano balak mo gawin with it would help us suggest something for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceblueyes View Post
    For power. Seasonic, get something na at least Gold rated. There are usually 2 versions: modular(i.e. you can remove unused cables) or the regular one.
    Bahala ka na kung alin trip mo. And don't be fooled on buying 1000W capacities, in a simple rig you'd barely reach 600w, sayang lang pera.

    the "best" i7 processor today is the Intel Core i7-3930K, unfortunately dyan pa lang lagpas kalahati ng ng budget mo.

    For Ram, unless you are using 32bit OS (i.e. WinXP) get more than 8gb. 16gb would be good.

    For motherboard, depende yan. and pointless kumuha ng meron madaming RAID slots kung di mo naman gagamitin.
    Just get something good with the basic features you need.

    For videocard. for either brand entry level lang yung worth 5k, sayang yung processor mo kung yan kukunin mo.


    more info on ano balak mo gawin with it would help us suggest something for you.
    Thanks sa tip niyo sir
    Yung seasonic ba 2 fan nun?
    Ganun yung imaster ko 2 fan niya.
    Oks lang kung madami RAID para naabang lang siya dun.
    Gusto ko kasi mabilis at pwede mag gaming.Mabuti na yung latest kagaya nung ginawa ko sa old custom desktop pc namin para updated na.hehe.Windows 8 na ilalalagay ko na OS kahit wala siyang start button..hehe
    Last edited by gearspeed; October 26th, 2013 at 05:34 PM.

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    Not sure kung may 2 fans yung Seasonic, I think hinde but doesn't really matter since quality naman yung fan and the average pc rig nowadays runs cooler than the P4 of old.
    Pwede din naman ibang brand, corsair, thermaltake, etc. just get gold or platinum rated, bornze at the very least.

    I'd suggest to just reuse your 2 optical drives from your old rig kung ayos pa sila. para bawas gastos.

    Casing, I think possible pa gamitin yung lumang case. But in case bibile ka ng bago. Get one that has 120mm as the smallest fan inlets. Don't get ones with 80/90mm, mahirap maghanap ng quality replacement fans of reasonable price in those sizes locally. And get a case with removable dust filters, it helps.
    Antec or Coolermaster or Silverstone or Lian Li are good brands. Thermaltake is ok din pero lahat ng na canvass ko dati parang walang filter kasama.

    For RAID, I don't like it if its just for personal use. Adds complexity + cost and while the performance gain is noticeable enough for some I can live without it. Pero most motherboards have some by default naman so its there when you want it.

    I think the main question here is how much do you want to spend on the video card. Kasi yan yung benchmark on what is reasonable to pair it with.
    I kinda get the feeling naman na pareho tayo and don't do incremental upgrades. Parang bile na lang ng bago pag nababagalan na type. So its better you build around the performance limit of the video card para di sayang pera

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    sobra na ang 50k sa PC ,,kung sa cpu lang naman...
    or bago din monitor mo...baka crt pa ung luma dapat lang talaga palitan ng LED

    magandang klase na yan..

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    mura na lang desktop pc ngayon. overkill na un 50k imo. eh laptop nga eh you could get a decent one at 30-40k price range.

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    para mabilis at ang set up latest na kaya 50k yun.CPU lang bibilhin ko oks na muna itong monitor.

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    LOLZ worth 50k na desktop mahal nun dude
    makakabili kana worth 15k lang super bilis na pwde
    na makapaglaro ng pang PS4 na games :hysterical:
    kung ako sayo bili kanalang ng imitation after 3 years lang laos na
    bibili ka pa ng worth 50k then after 3 years laos na din e di sayang lang pera mo :hysterical:

    tabi mo nalang pera mo na sobra pagawa ka ng maraming humps sa harap ng bahay nyo
    para hindi bumarurot si pampam mo hehe

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    ang mahal naman nyan 50K. kapag ganyan budget, above average gaming pc na, with 40 inch led tv. ahaha!

    I am the highway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gearspeed View Post
    Mabagal na itong desktop pc ko which is worth 70k during college days.

    My old set up was
    Pentinum 4 3.00Ghz
    512 RAM
    Windows XP Professional
    DVD writer by Sony
    DVD rom by Samsung
    D-link modem
    ATi Radeon Videocard
    Asus Motherboard
    Imaster pero pinalitan na.

    Ito balak kong specs

    Intel i7
    1TB hard disk seagate
    8gb memory
    Geforce video card probably worth 5k
    DVD writer sony
    DVD rom samsung
    Windows 8 OS
    Motherboard(wala pa akong alam na brand basta yung sinabi ni GH na with six or more SATA sockets (with RAID options), eSATA ports, USB 3.0.
    Power supply ano ba magandang brand nito?

    Sobra sobra na ba or kulang pa yung 50k dito?

    Yung pwede pang gaming din at mabilis yung pc.

    Thanks.
    The 70K is within expectation as that's also the cost of my previous P4 Prescott rig.

    I see you enjoy your computers naman so I'll be pitching in na rin.

    1. For your GPU, a budget of <10,000php is ideal. The cheaper you go, the more cost-efficient you are in depreciation. Unless you plan on playing the latest games at their highest resolution, 5,000php is more than enough.

    2. No RAID setup. It's too complex and not worth the added cost. I'd suggest a 128GB SSD + 1TB HDD combination instead. For the SSD, you can opt for budget drives such as ADATA SP900s or go for the more mainstream ones - OCZ Vertex 4s, Samsung 830s, etc. Personally, I use two 128GB OCZ Vertex 4 however our office PCs are using 64GB ADATA SP900s for their budget meals. I wouldn't worry about the benchmarks as, in real-life, you'll be hard pressed to feel a massive difference in 300MB vs 500MB seq reads. However, the jump from traditional HDD whether 7200RPM or 10,000RPM to SSD will be humongous.

    3. Memory is a well.. depends. The rate by how memory progresses is simply astounding. As you built your P4 rig, dapat alam mo yan. 128MB was the "norm" then when I got 512mb. Fast forward a few years, 1GB was the "norm" in 2008 when I built my C2Q rig with 4GB. Now, 4GB na yun "norm" so I suggest 16GB of DDR3 1033mhz.

    Why the allowance? Because phased-out RAMs are expensive. DDR2 now is selling 2-3x more than their 2008 counterparts thanks to limited supply. So while you can, stock up.

    Why not a faster ram or lower latency? Not worth it for the price-performance you're getting. So stick with a lower speed... but just add to the amount.

    4. For the DVD-ROMs, well. To each his own nalang yan. I'm not a fan of internal cd drives as I find most of them stop working after two years or so. Not to mention that I'm just using them occasionally. Eventually, I opted for an external cd drive reader instead which I find very convenient just in case I need to install something on the go (ex. laptop, office PC at another site, etc.)

    5. For the OS, sanay ka na ba? Almost all models nowadays ship with Windows 8, but I still find Windows 7 attractive enough for the back-to-roots type of computing. I know my way around Windows 8 but I'm finitely more comfortable with Windows 7 and so does our office staff and this is why I support Windows 7 over 8.

    6. For your motherboard, that also depends on your taste. As an enthusiast kasi I don't compromise on my mobo. However I simply suggest a get-what-you-need type for most. First is you need to know which chipset you'll be going for.. these are the Z77, B75, etc. (LGA 1155 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia look under Ivy Bridge chipsets). As for the brand, I'm not brand-loyal naman as most of these are well-reputed na. ASUS has a reputed following in their motherboards but MSI is also cost-competitive. ECS is locally manufactured and should be more affordable than their foreign counterparts.

    7. For the PSU, Seasonic is very well-reputed but is quite pricey. I suggest you stick to something like Corsair who still has their reputation behind them but isn't going for prestige pricing of their products. For the enthusiast, usually rail power tinitignan mo but overall power isn't bad so look for around 600W as I find that's the most ideal PSU wattage nowadays with headroom for future upgrades. As a previous Tsikoteers says, you don't really need 1000W but it can't hurt too if that's your thing. Personally, I'm using Thermaltake's ToughPower 1000W (because I got it cheap and it's modular) but most of our office PCs use Corsair VS450 as their basic entry.

    As to where you'll purchase them -- GIlmore. Banawe is to cars as Gilmore is to computers. PC Options typically offers the lowest pricing and I've built two of my rigs from them but lately, I find myself being a repeat customer of PCHub. If you'd like I could probably construct a PC for you at that budget.. but you'll have to wait probably later tonight or on Nov 2 -- whenever I'm free

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