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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by rion View Post
    sir Jun aka Pekto, PCI na ba yung 8600 GT mo?
    It's a PCI-Express (PCI-E) card. I have yet to see a PCI 8600 GT or an AGP one. It's not really the card I'd buy. But, I got it for free and it's better than my X800XL in every way. So, I can't complain.

    I wanted to buy the 8800GT. But, there are new boards coming out from both ATI and nVidia. I'm holding off a little more until I see thorough reviews for them, esp the AMD/ATI HD4850.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; June 29th, 2008 at 05:30 AM.

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    #22
    sir jun there are some user feedbacks on the ati 4850 over at tipidpc. one common observation amongst users is that it runs quite hot (but of course). prices have dropped here quite rapidly due to the release of the 4870.

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    #23
    I see thanks.

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    sir jun there are some user feedbacks on the ati 4850 over at tipidpc. one common observation amongst users is that it runs quite hot (but of course). prices have dropped here quite rapidly due to the release of the 4870.
    Thanks. I may have to go nVidia if the 4850 runs too hot. I plan to have 2 video cards (along with a quad-core 2.66ghz Q9450 cpu) in non-SLI/non-Crossfire mode. I want to hook up 4 monitors to play Flight Simulator X and X-Plane 9.

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    Thanks. I may have to go nVidia if the 4850 runs too hot. I plan to have 2 video cards (along with a quad-core 2.66ghz Q9450 cpu) in non-SLI/non-Crossfire mode. I want to hook up 4 monitors to play Flight Simulator X and X-Plane 9.

    mga magkano budget for this?

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    #26
    Quote Originally Posted by s_quilicot View Post
    mga magkano budget for this?

    My budget for a new DIY pc is always around $2k. I rarely approach it though.

    The parts I need to buy (preliminary from newegg.com):
    ASUS Maximus II Formula LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard: $270
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Yorkfield 2.66GHz LGA 775: $330
    CORSAIR XMS2 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) X 2:$100
    ASUS EAH4850/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 4850 512MB X 2: $400
    CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply: $160
    HP L1908w Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor X 3: $615

    Total: $1875

    Let's see...... In FSX, the Radeon HD 4850 gets 24 fps at a res of 2560 x 1600. That's 4,096,000 pixels using one monitor.

    I need:
    3* x 19" monitors at 1440 x 900 each: 1,296,000 X 3= 3,888,000 pixels<---- within limits. I'm in there!

    *Left, right, front views.

    Add: If the GT280 prices drop to match the 4850, then I'll get the nVidia cards instead.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; June 29th, 2008 at 03:20 PM.

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    #27
    based on the title of the thread he is asking for two opinions, the best videocard and the cheapest videocard, otherwise the title should have been the best cheapest videocard if that he is looking for.

    nanghihinayang lang ako sa "legal" copies ng games na mga bibilin mo tapos sa entry level na videocard mo lalaruin. kahit legal yan di mo naman ma-eexperience ang full beauty ng game mo.

    for the games that you have mentioned i would not go lower than a 8600 series nvidia card. and i suggest go and upgrade your ram. it should be atleast 2gb (but 1gb should suffice).

    heres my desktop spec.
    AMD opteron 146 OC * 3ghz on a lanparty ultra-d mobo
    1gb ddr400 ram, dual channel
    msi 7800gtx 256mb videocard
    SATA2 disk drives
    XP SP2 OS

    with that setup i can run cod4 with all settings high.
    the framerate is quite acceptable at 35-40fps * 1280x1024 reso. and may lag parin yan on intense battles.

    if you plan to play those games i'd suggest you invest on a good midrange videocard and not the "best cheapest" you can get, otherwise sayang lang yung mga "legal" copy na games mo.

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    #28
    There's no way around it. If you want to play hardcore games on the pc, you have to pay for the hardware. If you're on a budget, then you'll have to wait until the hardware is more affordable.

    The only other alternative is to go console and invest in an HDTV. That's what I would do. Any pc game I can play on a console, I'll probably end up playing on the latter. That's why my pc game purchases have dropped sharply within the last 3 years.

    Since 2005, the only new pc games I bought were:
    Battlefield 2
    Command and Conquer 3
    Falcon 4.0: Allied Force (repackaged Falcon 4.0)
    MS Flight Simulator X
    X-Plane 9

    3 years worth. In the past, those would've been a few months worth.

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    #29
    I too used to be a PC gamer, but now pure console gamer na ako. I haven't been using my PC to play games anymore its just too expensive to maintain... Better buy an HDTV (not just for games) and then a PS3 or XBox 360 mas matipid talaga...

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    I too used to be a PC gamer, but now pure console gamer na ako. I haven't been using my PC to play games anymore its just too expensive to maintain... Better buy an HDTV (not just for games) and then a PS3 or XBox 360 mas matipid talaga...
    A console and an HDTV is a wise choice. I'll eventually go the same route too for most of my games. My daughter's already a console nut except for WoW on the pc.

    But flight sims are my first love. So, I'm not quite done with pc's yet. I normally plan my DIY pc's around the games I play. The current AMD X2 4200+ was made for Battlefield 2 back in 2005.

    My next pc will be build around Flight Simulator X and will be similar in capability to this one:


    Some noteworthy components are the Matrox Triplehead2Go (for multi-monitor), TrackIR 4 (syncs your head movement with the on-screen graphics), and VATSim (Virtual Air Traffic Simulator).

    I don't need the Triplehead2Go. There are alternatives to it. But, TrackIR 4 looks nice.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; June 30th, 2008 at 02:56 PM.

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    I too used to be a PC gamer, but now pure console gamer na ako. I haven't been using my PC to play games anymore its just too expensive to maintain... Better buy an HDTV (not just for games) and then a PS3 or XBox 360 mas matipid talaga...
    pano nangyari yun pre?
    ang mahal ng HDTV, ang mahal ng PS3, ang mahal ng Xbox. Ang mahal pa ng games. May obsolescence factor pa.

    Pag PC, component upgrades lang tapos pwede nga pirated games...

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    #32
    Mahal ang HDTV, pero di lang naman pang games yun pwede ring manood ng TV and DVD so multipurpose na.

    You only need to buy a console every 5 years for $500 thats already the price of your high end videocard alone which you need to replace every 3 years if you want to play your games at a decent speed. As for games meron ding pirated games except for PS3.

    Also consoles are much more easier to use. Place the disk and it runs. PC sometimes daming ek ek na kailangan problemahin like compatibility, minimum requirements etc...

    Ever wonder why games come to consoles first (GTA4, Mass Effect etc..) before PC. That's because the industry realizes that consoles are more profitable and sales from PC are just the sugar coating...

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    #33
    guys I need your inputs, I'm planning to upgrade my pentium 4's AGP video card next month. right now, I'm using the fx500 256mb. but It can't play 1080p movies properly. but my budget is only 3k. I have 2 options right now, the Nvidia 7300GT 512Mb from villman or ATI 1650pro 512 from rsun.

    which of the two you think is better?

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by rion View Post
    guys I need your inputs, I'm planning to upgrade my pentium 4's AGP video card next month. right now, I'm using the fx500 256mb. but It can't play 1080p movies properly. but my budget is only 3k. I have 2 options right now, the Nvidia 7300GT 512Mb from villman or ATI 1650pro 512 from rsun.
    Curiously I am also in the market for a new video card (AGP slot) if I can find a half-height card so it can fit in my custom case. So far all I have found are AGP vid cards that are full height in design.

    My alternative option is to upgrade the CPU, Mboard, vid card to do 1080p movies.

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    #35
    IMO

    rion, redeon for XP and nvidia for vista.

    boss gh, that's it and go for msi or asus motherboard.

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    #36
    thanks XTO.

    here is the spec on nvidia vs. radeon I'm planning to get

    di ko ma gets, Iba-iba kasi yung term nila...

    Radeon: 2,400

    Graphics Engine RADEON X1650
    Video Memory 512MB DDR2
    Engine Clock 600 MHz
    Memory Clock 330 MHz x 2
    Memory Interface 128bit

    source link

    Nvdia: P 3,088

    Chipset Geforce 7300 GT
    Memory 512MB GDDR2
    Core Frequency 400MHz
    Memory Frequency 667MHz
    RAMDAC 400MHz

    source link

    could someone please translate them?

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    #37
    The cheapest Video Card in the Market with the Best Performance & Value for Money is the...

    XFX 8600GT 256Mb DDR3 XXX Edition.

    - Php 3,000
    - 620Mhz Engine (up from 540Mhz Nvidia Reference Design)
    - Has a XFX Free Dual Analog, Rumble Game Pad (worth 800 pesos)
    - Runs games (except Crysis) on 1024 x 768 Max Settings, or 1280 x 1024 Very High
    - Have played Devil May Cry 4, Gears of War, Race Driver GRID, Assasins Creed, Fifa 09, C&C 3: TW & KW, Call of Duty 4 at max settings.

    Runner Up: All Radeon 4650/4670 Video Cards that are 4,000 and below.
    Last edited by mikmik316; November 5th, 2008 at 06:39 AM.

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    #38
    I ended up with the X1650 pro 512Mb GDDR2 Agp for 2,600. bleh, It's not a budget card anymore for PCI-E. it's not even a mid-range card anymore... It's barely keeping up with Dead Space, I bet it will be worst on Tomb Raider Underworld... a power hungry card. it's a underclocked stock but a factory overclocked. so overclocking seems unlikely...

    Atleast I can play it on Left4Dead on the LCD's native Resolution with low-Mid settings with bareable lags.

    buying a HD3850 agp for 6,000 could catch up, but I rather build a new Rig with PCI-E.
    Last edited by rion; January 18th, 2009 at 11:14 AM.

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    #39
    btw, here's my x1650 pro benchmark results. for peeps considering agp cards...




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    #40
    any comments nvidia 295 2gb ? yung may company of heroes na naka lagay sa box. TIA

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