2008 F1 French Grand Prix

**CVT** · June 22nd, 2008 08:01 PM

It has just started without any incident....

KR, FM, JT, FA, RK after 2 laps....

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**CVT** · June 22nd, 2008 08:32 PM

This double post gremlin has come out again.... Whew!

Anyway, LH was able to jump from 13th place to 9th place before(?) that "apex-overtake-taking advantage" incident....Although his jump form 10th to 9th place over HK appears to me like "team orders"

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**CVT** · June 22nd, 2008 08:32 PM

So far, it still is Ferrari 1-2 KR-FM

And, luck so far is not going LH's way, as he was penalized with a drive through for "missing the apex during an overtaking maneuver and taking advantage of it"....

At least, that is how I heard it on the TV coverage....

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**niky** · June 23rd, 2008 01:16 AM

Damn that drive-through... it didn't seem like he gained a place with that little stunt... and he was pushed off of line... penalty or a crash... erh...

Still, despite the usual, stupid, anti-McLaren FIA tactics (though the penalty for last race's stoplight incident was well deserved by Hammie)... it was an interesting race... lots of fighting throughout the field.

Raikkonen's exhaust issue, though, may prove to be a factor in next week's race... as it looks like he might have to start either ten places back or continue with an engine in unsure condition. What a freak accident... somebody at Ferrari must've been sleeping at the welder last week...

Mad props to Alonso... what a race... and even madder props to Trulli for making for the fastest "Trulli-train" we've seen in a long while (even though it was just two or three cars long... )

**tidus1203** · June 23rd, 2008 09:31 AM

^^Actually he can change his engine without penalty at all. New rules yan for 2008 but it only applies to the first change.

**coiter** · June 23rd, 2008 10:06 AM

ang ganda ng course and shots. parang ang bibilis talaga nila hehe

anyway, it was simply a dominating race for ferrari. but trulli or HK could have given KR some fits if only they weren't entangled in a tight battle for 3rd. imagine they were gaining by more than a second per lap when kimi had trouble with his exhaust.

**tidus1203** · June 23rd, 2008 10:44 AM

Kimi blew them away in the 1st half of the race so ang laki ng gap di na nila mahahabol yun...

**niky** · June 23rd, 2008 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

^^Actually he can change his engine without penalty at all. New rules yan for 2008 but it only applies to the first change.

That "free change" is only in case of general failure. Unfortunately, Kimi's engine was still running at the end of the race.

The question is whether this has caused enough damage to warrant an engine change, or whether they're going to risk a DNF and run the same engine. Either way, Kimi's chances of staying close to Massa in the points race is probably well and truly buggered.

This is a terrific driver's championship... full of surprises at this point. I just how BMW and McLaren can really stick it to the Ferrari boys over the course of the season, but the engine freeze rule was really stupid... since it means nobody can catch the Ferraris power-wise, now... (oh, I'm guessing that was on purpose?

) ...least of all, Renault, who have to resort to a lot of tricks to keep their cars on the fast end of the grid.

Hmmm... how much better would F1 be if they implemented a weight system bsaed on qualifying pace?

5 kilos of weight for every second faster than the Force India runners your car is. Ought to be quite interesting...

**tidus1203** · June 23rd, 2008 02:52 PM

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...22214003.shtml

They will change his engine without penalty...

**niky** · June 23rd, 2008 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...22214003.shtml

They will change his engine without penalty...

Kill!!!!

... oh well, good for him.

Finally figured out what happened to Kimi. He was so blisteringly fast in the race that he actually outran his exhaust... It just couldn't keep up...

**niky** · June 23rd, 2008 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by tidus1203

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...22214003.shtml

They will change his engine without penalty...

Kill!!!!

... oh well, good for him.

Finally figured out what happened to Kimi. He was so blisteringly fast in the race that he actually outran his exhaust... It just couldn't keep up...

**BoyFerrari** · June 24th, 2008 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by niky

but the engine freeze rule was really stupid... since it means nobody can catch the Ferraris power-wise, now...

Well, Force India is using Ferrari engine.

I think the battleground now is on the chassis design.

**BoyFerrari** · June 24th, 2008 11:00 PM

It may also be worth mentioning that this is Nelson Piquet Jr.'s first GP points. Although not remarkable enough to redeem himself so far. Sure, Kovalainen had a poor rookie season with Renault at the start, but Nelson Junior's current showing is far worse. Flavio can give more justice to fans by bringing in atleast a more entertaining driver, like Takuma Sato.

Sebastian Vettel is proving to be a promising driver. I think it just so happens that Vettel landed on a Torro Rosso, while Lewis landed on a Mercedes. If it was the other way around, Lewis would not have been the same celebrity as he is today. In fact, I think Lewis has committed more blunders than Vettel.

And I agree that Lewis should have been penalized with a drive-through. It was clear that Vettel was the first guy on the curb. If he cut the chicane, he should have let Vettel through, and then he can overtake him again. After all, a Toro Rosso is no match against a McLaren. So what's the hurry to gain a position?

**niky** · June 24th, 2008 11:57 AM

I can just imagine running across the grass, chased by security and race stewards... reaching into the grass... and burning my hand to a crisp on a red hot piece of exhaust... yup...

Finally come to terms with LH's penalty... apparently he overtook long before the turn, which caused him to overshoot it because he was carrying way too much speed. He ceded position to the guy at the turn, but not the guy behind him that he had originally overtaken. Another rookie mistake by LH...

**niky** · June 25th, 2008 11:40 AM

Kimi has shown some humanity at the start of the year... Alonso? Hell, he shows his emotions in every move... but his experience shows in the fact that he doesn't let it ruin his race.

Vettel versus Hamilton... well... the one big problem with Hamilton is all the hype. There's so much pressure on his shoulders. Vettel has no such issues. He can just get in the car and drive. Lewis shows absolute brilliance at times. But at times, he shows his rookie-ness... the whole drive last race was a rookie drive... overbraking, overdriving the corners... his frustration showed through.

But when he has room to breathe... his driving is breath-taking... Lewis in the rain or at Monaco is an absolute joy to watch.

The kid has immense talent... but he's got to learn more control.

**BoyFerrari** · June 25th, 2008 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by niky

Lewis shows absolute brilliance at times. But at times, he shows his rookie-ness...

Let's not forget last year's 2007 Hungarian GP, where Lewis crazily break-tested Mark Webber behind the safety car at rainy conditions (supposedly, Lewis was trying to set himself up for a breakaway sprint as soon as the safety car dives into the pits). Unfortunately, Lewis' rookie antics caused Vettel to crash into Webber that took them both out. Why would you break-test on rainy conditions anyway?

Oh, and the next GP in Shanghai, Vettel claimed P4 at the checked flag in his Torro Rosso just behind Felipe Massa's Ferrari. And where was Lewis at that time? He got stuck in the sandtrap while entering the pits.

**tidus1203** · June 26th, 2008 08:36 AM

Para sakin Robert Kubica is even better than Lewis Hamilton....

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