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  1. Join Date
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolodeon
    I was comparing F1 races with WRC races. But I agree with you: there are a number of things that a WRC can do that a F1 car can't do.
    for a second i thought you were talking about Laguna Seca. anyway, widen the tracks for WRC and make the racing head-to-head and we'll be in good shape!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by theveed
    If drivers are bigger factors than their cars in F1
    I think that no one said that...

    driver + constructor = f1 racing

    without one or the other, you can't expect to win an f1 race. look at the current f1 driver roster (including alonso I think)... many of them started with minardi... though their talent was left untapped until they got hold of those better cars.

    cars aren't the only answer... the saubers almost uses the ferrari replica (save for the aero package) but look at where they are...

    though f1 racing isn't perfect though... but they'll be answering that with the new rules for the coming years (staring with the new engine displacement & configuration next year). though the combination of schumi + ferrari was just something (and am still looking forward to that)!!!

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    i wanna borrow nicolodeon's post for my sentiments on F1. :D

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    F1 can be raced without drivers, i dont get why they pay the drivers so much when it's the engineers that makes or breaks the season.
    Excuse me? But with all due respect, last time I checked, they haven't invented self-driving cars yet.

    And I cant even fathom what my reply to what you said about "engineers
    that make or break a season". The fact is Montoya had arguably the best car
    of the season and still look what happened to him?

    (and yes I know people will say it was an accident, but Kimi saw the drain
    cover and avoided it, so how come Montoya didnt?)

    Also to the M. Schumacher fans here, excuse me but I know he was the world
    champion like 5 times in a row, but Alonso's and Kimi's worst season could not
    really compare to M. Schumacher performance in Shanghai. I mean guys
    c'mon, spinning during a safety car period? Even Tiago Monteiro didnt commit
    that kind of a blunder not to mention bumping to Albers during the warm-up
    lap.

    I never really watched F1 when Michael was winning precisely because
    of what you guys said it was "boooorrrriinng...", Now Alonso comes along
    and breaks the doldrums and still hes being bashed. Queso Kimi should
    have won because he was the better driver, C'mon give the guy a break.
    When all is said and done, when it mattered most, Kimi and Mclaren didnt step
    up to the plate and they lost fair and square so I would say ...

    1. Enough of the sour-graping.
    2. And "Schumacher who??"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff1101
    Also to the M. Schumacher fans here, excuse me but I know he was the world champion like 5 times in a row, but Alonso's and Kimi's worst season could not really compare to M. Schumacher performance in Shanghai. I mean guys c'mon, spinning during a safety car period? Even Tiago Monteiro didnt commit that kind of a blunder not to mention bumping to Albers during the warm-up lap.

    I never really watched F1 when Michael was winning precisely because
    of what you guys said it was "boooorrrriinng..."

    1. Enough of the sour-graping.
    2. And "Schumacher who??"
    You are the only one glorifying Michael Schumacher here. What's the fuzz? Schumi's season has ended a long time ago this summer so I'm not sure who are you trying to exchange barbs with.

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    You are the only one glorifying Michael Schumacher here. What's the fuzz? Schumi's season has ended a long time ago this summer so I'm not sure who are you trying to exchange barbs with
    I'm sorry if I come across as combative but Its just that I've havent been
    this excited in F1 for a llllooooonnnngggg time.

    And Im sorry if you think Im glorifying Michael Schumacher here ... because
    Im not...

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    Isuzoom said
    Renault is Nissan, Nissan is Renault
    I say...
    Ferrari is Fiat, Fiat is Ferrari haha

    nuff said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff1101
    I say...
    Ferrari is Fiat, Fiat is Ferrari haha

    nuff said...
    And Merc is Chrysler and Chrysler is Merc? hehehe

    idol ko pa rin si kimi

    I think malaki pa rin influence ng driver sa F1... Uy, mahirap din yun magsetup ng kotse. Tsaka when you are going 300kph on a corner mahirap din yun hehehe. Esp. when you are going to overtake at +300kph(like what kimi did in Japan hehe )its a bit hair-raising. yun nga lang 150-160 sa freeway kakatakot na...

    Well, tire changing is back next year. New qualifying format again, new engines, so hopefully more exciting races will come up, more strategies, more drama and politics hehehe

    merc fans check this out! lots of mclaren stuff... sarap magshopping! if i only had the money

    Last edited by cardo; October 27th, 2005 at 09:55 AM.

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    ....NASCAR na lang kayo! no driver skills needed, only b*lls to go neck on neck at 200mph for 200 laps! wala lang, just trippin on this new sports cable channel (sportsplus).

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    Yeah Ive been watching that too. Didnt even realized the last guy who won
    was the husband of Ashley Judd until they interviewed her.

    Theres also the IndyCar race on the same channel. I thinks its the same
    track but the cars are open wheel type resembling Formula 1 cars. (albeit
    ugly formula 1 cars...)

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    We Are The Champions - V10 version: http://www.renaultf1.com/en/season/c...ws=tcm:3-41651

    It's on the panel on the right-hand side. Who says engineers are boring :D

    Alam nyo bakit popular ang WRC? Kasi we have a fighting chance of owning and driving a car very similar to what they use hehehe. Halata talaga ang driver skill. Luck also plays a big part. And maganda ang presentation ng AXN.

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