TougeBattle Round5 Results(7/29/17)

[travajante]

Still have the gen1 3, jut sir? That's a solid car there. Any plans of a track set up? OVT does em, too.

[jut703]

Still have the gen1 3, jut sir? That's a solid car there. Any plans of a track set up? OVT does em, too.

The AT sucks. No power from 40-60 kph as this is when it shifts from a short first gear to a very long second gear. Unfortunately, this is also the speed with which you take most corners in a technical track. Oh, and it weighs 1340 kg despite being smaller than my 1239 kg Civic - it's like I have 2 girls in the car at all times, but without the corresponding eye candy. 😂

I still love it to bits though - full of character compared to the ES Civic or 9th gen Altis, yet still better-equipped than both of them. The hydraulic steering gives much better feedback than my current Civic, although for daily use it's relatively more tiring. The handling is superb and planted, perfect for mountain runs where you can take corners at 4000-6000 rpm in 2nd gear.

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[travajante]

The AT sucks. No power from 40-60 kph as this is when it shifts from a short first gear to a very long second gear. Unfortunately, this is also the speed with which you take most corners in a technical track. Oh, and it weighs 1340 kg despite being smaller than my 1239 kg Civic - it's like I have 2 girls in the car at all times, but without the corresponding eye candy. 😂

I still love it to bits though - full of character compared to the ES Civic or 9th gen Altis, yet still better-equipped than both of them. The hydraulic steering gives much better feedback than my current Civic, although for daily use it's relatively more tiring. The handling is superb and planted, perfect for mountain runs where you can take corners at 4000-6000 rpm in 2nd gear.

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Hehe. Sounds like you've been spoiled by your new Civic.
....But yes, Mazda's strength has always been about fun & handling. Looking at the way cars of today & all their gizmos have robbed away that raw & direct road feel, it's really a luxury to have a good ol' reliable to remind us how they used to be built. You plan that a keeper?
Btw, 1.8s don't come w/ paddles, do they? Pretty sure you can hack em in w/ RS parts. I did w/ our hobo 2 DJ. Now, it practically has everything needed for dual duty....daily & looooong fun backroads.

[EQAddict]

How do you hack paddle shifters into the 1.8?

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[travajante]

How do you hack paddle shifters into the 1.8?

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I can speak for the M2 DJ....a calculated guess that the new CIVICs (1.8 & 1.5T)share the same harnesses...but here's what I did....
My hobo's clockspring lacked the pins for the paddle plug, so I got 1 w/....same used in 3s...

Got the paddle harness & the bundle of 3 cables that would run behind the clockspring terminal to the main cluster harness


Of course, the paddles & a custom milled adapter my bud crafted...but you can use an RS wheel in your case...this 2 is an ongoing project.

Finally...paddle display is alive...


You'll need to compare your 1.8's harness w/ the RS' to figure parts you need. Skyactivs share a lot of common parts across models.

[travajante]

The ever-evolving project's cockpit currently looks like this....

[jut703]

Hehe. Sounds like you've been spoiled by your new Civic.
....But yes, Mazda's strength has always been about fun & handling. Looking at the way cars of today & all their gizmos have robbed away that raw & direct road feel, it's really a luxury to have a good ol' reliable to remind us how they used to be built. You plan that a keeper?
Btw, 1.8s don't come w/ paddles, do they? Pretty sure you can hack em in w/ RS parts. I did w/ our hobo 2 DJ. Now, it practically has everything needed for dual duty....daily & looooong fun backroads.

Too complicated to add paddles to the 1.8. The transmission assembly is different - the RS doesn't have an L mode. Also, finding an RS wheel will be difficult, and the wiring for the paddles will most likely not be plug and play. Even if it were possible, it'd be expensive.

I generally don't like to spend a lot on mods for my car since I could've just used that money to get a better car in the first place. And right now I prefer to save my money for a large non-car related expenditure in the near future.

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[travajante]

Too complicated to add paddles to the 1.8. The transmission assembly is different - the RS doesn't have an L mode. Also, finding an RS wheel will be difficult, and the wiring for the paddles will most likely not be plug and play. Even if it were possible, it'd be expensive.

I generally don't like to spend a lot on mods for my car since I could've just used that money to get a better car in the first place. And right now I prefer to save my money for a large non-car related expenditure in the near future.

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Made sure that lil experiment would not set me back much. Only the clockspring was sourced locally. Scoured hobo parts all over, plus, put an old wheel to use.....In anything, most of the fun is in the journey.
Hmmmm, lemme guess what you're saving up for....something that won't run to cover those that do? Everyone wishes for that, too.

[StockEngine]

sana sa next touge... kasama na ang fk8 or fk8r?

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[jut703]

Made sure that lil experiment would not set me back much. Only the clockspring was sourced locally. Scoured hobo parts all over, plus, put an old wheel to use.....In anything, most of the fun is in the journey.
Hmmmm, lemme guess what you're saving up for....something that won't run to cover those that do? Everyone wishes for that, too.

How much did it cost for your whole conversion?

Upon further reading, I don't think the 1.8 and RS have the same CVT. Too many differences - aside from the L mode, the RS' CVT can be brake-torqued at 3000 rpm (2000 only for the 1.8), plus the RS is designed to have fake shifts while the 1.8 just drones at 6000 rpm.

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[jut703]

I'm inviting everyone who has an itch to go fast to join the next Touge Battle.

Lots of bone-stock daily-driven cars:









And then of course there's this 20-year old Civic LXi that laps faster than B16 SiRs, BRZs, and WRXs:



It's not as stressful to the tires - I hardly had any tire wear. It's a bit hard on the brakes but only if you do consecutive runs (which only happens in the semis onwards), though my stock brakes survived and are now back to normal.

Best of all, you get to spend an entire day talking to real people who actually know a lot about cars instead of dealing with online trolls. 😉

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[travajante]

How much did it cost for your whole conversion?

Upon further reading, I don't think the 1.8 and RS have the same CVT. Too many differences - aside from the L mode, the RS' CVT can be brake-torqued at 3000 rpm (2000 only for the 1.8), plus the RS is designed to have fake shifts while the 1.8 just drones at 6000 rpm.

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The new M3 paddles were almost $50. The harness less than $30. Had I opted the stock steering route, the kit would've been north of $200. Fortunately, the parts search, research, patience, faith & prayers paid off. I owe this mod to a coupla OCD tinkering buddies.


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[travajante]

I'm inviting everyone who has an itch to go fast to join the next Touge Battle.

Lots of bone-stock daily-driven cars:







And then of course there's this 20-year old Civic LXi that laps faster than B16 SiRs, BRZs, and WRXs:



It's not as stressful to the tires - I hardly had any tire wear. It's a bit hard on the brakes but only if you do consecutive runs (which only happens in the semis onwards), though my stock brakes survived and are now back to normal.

Best of all, you get to spend an entire day talking to real people who actually know a lot about cars instead of dealing with online trolls.

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So true....oh, a simple brake duct mod or proper pad upgrade can help those brakes, jut sir.

& Oh, your buddy Jeff, the Ring King, sends his best. His car looks pretty clean, too. Amazing what OVT did to this lowly hobo 1.5. He even outdid some of the 2.0s, right?

[jut703]

So true....oh, a simple brake duct mod or proper pad upgrade can help those brakes, jut sir.

& Oh, your buddy Jeff, the Ring King, sends his best. His car looks pretty clean, too. Amazing what OVT did to this lowly hobo 1.5. He even outdid some of the 2.0s, right?

The 2.0 was also OVT tuned, with matching OVT stickers to go with the camo paint. It's more the driver than the car if you ask me since the other 1.5 was just as fast as the 2.0. Much cleaner and tighter lines around the track for Jeff vs the other Mazda 3s that were there.



I thought it was Arjo you were referring to as the Ring King haha.

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[travajante]

The 2.0 was also OVT tuned, with matching OVT stickers to go with the camo paint. It's more the driver than the car if you ask me since the other 1.5 was just as fast as the 2.0. Much cleaner and tighter lines around the track for Jeff vs the other Mazda 3s that were there.



I thought it was Arjo you were referring to as the Ring King haha.

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Haha...Arjo is the star...****star.
Oh yes, driver matters more. OVT does custom tunes down to the fuel you prefer & where the power & pull appear ....Knowing Jeff, he must've been overly specific w/ what he wanted. Many of the OVTd opt for balance tunes w/ FC factored in. Some even go more on FC than ponies. I'm not really surprised w/ the results.

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[travajante]

Another round of fun soon. Try to join, guys!!!!!

[travajante]

Round6 Teaser is out!!!!

[travajante]

Round6 announced!!!! The closed SIR!!!! Have fun, guys!!!

[travajante]

Final round concluded!!!! Grats to all who joined & to our very own jut703 who made the podium!!! Please share official results & thrill-filled stories here.

[Egan101]

No more rounds this year?