TougeBattle Round5 Results(7/29/17)

[enzo6k]

Updated times:





To have an idea of how different cars and drivers fared:

Subaru Impreza STi - 1:21
Ford Mustang - 1:22-1:24
Subaru BRZ MT - 1:28-1:33
Mazda 3 1.5V - 1:30
Mazda 3 2.0R - 1:33-1:36
Mazda 2 1.5 MT - 1:33
Honda Civic FC 1.8 CVT - 1:30
Honda Civic FB 1.8 MT - 1:31
Honda Civic SiR - 1:31
Subaru Legacy 2.0 MT - 1:30-1:31
Subaru WRX MT - 1:32
Ford Fiesta 1.5 DCT - 1:35
BMW 318i E46 - 1:36
Suzuki Swift 1.2 MT - 1:37
Mitsubishi Mirage 1.2 MT - 1:37



Yup! Fun little kart track. Very short straights so it's all about cornering. Lots of late apexes too.

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Nice, so its all about the skills, i can see the corners equalize the engines. what's your alignment settings btw? you can do tricks in there

[jut703]

Am I seeing this right? Jeff Go's 1.5 Skyactiv3 did a 1:21:28? Dayummmm. He's a track newb whose only real performance mod is OVT. Very promising!!!!

Coilovers too. suspension settings matter more in a small track like this. Given the Mazda 3 already has superb handling, fine-tuning the suspension to minimize understeer is a big help to maintain cornering speeds. ProjectMu pads also dissipate heat better than OEM pads, which helps in terms of longevity after consecutive rounds. Ultimately though, it boils down to the driver and the organizers took notice how much Jeff improved from the last leg of Touge Battle, also in Tarlac. 👍

Nice, so its all about the skills, i can see the corners equalize the engines. what's your alignment settings btw? you can do tricks in there

All factory stock settings. I'm on stock suspension so there's really nothing to fiddle with.

The most impressive bit for me is the 1.5 LXi with a PH15 (non-VTEC) engine qualifying at 1:24, faster than almost everyone except the Mustang V8s and STis.



Btw the battle rounds layout is different from the quali layout (full track), since they shortened the track by removing the first corner because of puddles brought about by the heavy rain in the middle of the day. Different heats also faced different weather conditions which was why the organizers used qualifying times as the basis for the day's fastest lap since the weather was more consistent in the morning.

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[enzo6k]

LOL * valve cover

[travajante]

Still have the gen1 3, jut sir? That's a solid car there. Any plans of a track set up? OVT does em, too.

[jut703]

Still have the gen1 3, jut sir? That's a solid car there. Any plans of a track set up? OVT does em, too.

The AT sucks. No power from 40-60 kph as this is when it shifts from a short first gear to a very long second gear. Unfortunately, this is also the speed with which you take most corners in a technical track. Oh, and it weighs 1340 kg despite being smaller than my 1239 kg Civic - it's like I have 2 girls in the car at all times, but without the corresponding eye candy. 😂

I still love it to bits though - full of character compared to the ES Civic or 9th gen Altis, yet still better-equipped than both of them. The hydraulic steering gives much better feedback than my current Civic, although for daily use it's relatively more tiring. The handling is superb and planted, perfect for mountain runs where you can take corners at 4000-6000 rpm in 2nd gear.

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[travajante]

The AT sucks. No power from 40-60 kph as this is when it shifts from a short first gear to a very long second gear. Unfortunately, this is also the speed with which you take most corners in a technical track. Oh, and it weighs 1340 kg despite being smaller than my 1239 kg Civic - it's like I have 2 girls in the car at all times, but without the corresponding eye candy. 😂

I still love it to bits though - full of character compared to the ES Civic or 9th gen Altis, yet still better-equipped than both of them. The hydraulic steering gives much better feedback than my current Civic, although for daily use it's relatively more tiring. The handling is superb and planted, perfect for mountain runs where you can take corners at 4000-6000 rpm in 2nd gear.

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Hehe. Sounds like you've been spoiled by your new Civic.
....But yes, Mazda's strength has always been about fun & handling. Looking at the way cars of today & all their gizmos have robbed away that raw & direct road feel, it's really a luxury to have a good ol' reliable to remind us how they used to be built. You plan that a keeper?
Btw, 1.8s don't come w/ paddles, do they? Pretty sure you can hack em in w/ RS parts. I did w/ our hobo 2 DJ. Now, it practically has everything needed for dual duty....daily & looooong fun backroads.

[jut703]

Hehe. Sounds like you've been spoiled by your new Civic.
....But yes, Mazda's strength has always been about fun & handling. Looking at the way cars of today & all their gizmos have robbed away that raw & direct road feel, it's really a luxury to have a good ol' reliable to remind us how they used to be built. You plan that a keeper?
Btw, 1.8s don't come w/ paddles, do they? Pretty sure you can hack em in w/ RS parts. I did w/ our hobo 2 DJ. Now, it practically has everything needed for dual duty....daily & looooong fun backroads.

Too complicated to add paddles to the 1.8. The transmission assembly is different - the RS doesn't have an L mode. Also, finding an RS wheel will be difficult, and the wiring for the paddles will most likely not be plug and play. Even if it were possible, it'd be expensive.

I generally don't like to spend a lot on mods for my car since I could've just used that money to get a better car in the first place. And right now I prefer to save my money for a large non-car related expenditure in the near future.

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