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    #1
    At Imola the Ferrari team were able to use Felipe Massa as a brake to Alonso's progress in his battle with Michael Schumacher, it will be very tempting for the Renault team to do likewise tomorrow. Though we are unlikely to get a feast of overtaking, it will be another titanic strategy battle -


    :car: Renault versus Ferrari

    Below are the results:

    Times
    01 F. Alonso Renault 1:14.648
    02 G. Fisichella Renault 1:14.709
    03 M. Schumacher Ferrari 1:14.970
    04 F. Massa Ferrari 1:15.442
    05 R. Barrichello Honda 1:15.885
    06 R. Schumacher Toyota 1:15.885
    07 J. Trulli Toyota 1:15.976
    08 J. Button Honda 1:16.008
    09 K. Räikkönen McLaren 1:16.015
    10 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:17.155

    11 M. Webber Williams 1:15.502
    12 JP. Montoya McLaren 1:15.801
    13 N. Rosberg Williams 1:15.804
    14 J. Villeneuve BMW 1:15.847
    15 C. Klien Red Bull 1:15.928
    16 V. Liuzzi Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:16.661

    17 S. Speed Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:17.361
    18 T. Monteiro Midland F1 1:17.702
    19 C. Albers Midland F1 1:18.024
    20 T. Sato Super Aguri 1:18.920
    21 F. Montagny Super Aguri 1:20.763
    22 D. Coulthard Red Bull no time

    Raceday is at 7pm Manila time.

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    What an absolutely boring race .... if you can even call it a race. The gaps were so wide the cars were absolutely cruising in the last 21 laps. Now that we've gotten rid of this one, I'm looking forward to my upcoming favorite circuit in 2 weeks time: MONACO!!!!

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    #3
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
    What an absolutely boring race .... if you can even call it a race. The gaps were so wide the cars were absolutely cruising in the last 21 laps. Now that we've gotten rid of this one, I'm looking forward to my upcoming favorite circuit in 2 weeks time: MONACO!!!!
    boring nga! di ba parang mas boring sa Monaco? specially sa qualifying round? (sigurodong puros traffic yan).

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    ano ba results? only got to see lap23 before my auto-in time sa work. hehehe.

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    TOP 8 FINISHERS SPANISH GRAND PRIX

    1. Fernando Alonso (Renault)
    2. Michael Schumacher (Ferrari)
    3. Giancarlo Fisichella (Renault)
    4. Felipe Massa (Ferrari)
    5. Kimi Raikkonen (McLaren- Mercedes)
    6. Jenson Button (Honda)
    7. Rubens Barrichello (Honda)
    8. Nick Heidfeld (BMW Sauber)

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    #7
    thanks! :D

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    seems that a lot of cars are out of balance during raceday...

    schumi was able to pull off a 1m14s+ lap during qualifying... but during raceday it was only 1m16s+ by massa.

    brilliant opening by raikonnen... jumping form 9th to 5th (by splitting the toyotas).

    not much overtaking here... except for the two midlands dicing it out.

    though brilliant pitstop strategy by ferrari for schumi! just in time to overtake fisi.

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    Boring? How did Schumi pass Fisichella? When's the replay on Star? I was out during the race!

    EDIT: Nasagot na pala ni M2... ehehe... bagal ko magpost!
    Last edited by niky; May 15th, 2006 at 11:14 AM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    most probably, raceday replay will be later

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    Agh... can't wait... I think I've caught replays on Wednesday and Friday last week... hintayin ko nalang... but if it's a strictly no passing thing, beh... was Schumi closing in on Fernando after he passed Fisi in the pits? It would be telling as to how the rest of the season will go.

    Poor Kimi... looks like McLaren's engines aren't on par with the new Renault and Ferrari units (as so publicly demonstrated by JPM not so long ago when he blew one).

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #12
    nabuhay si sir hens!

    mas boring nga ang monaco with almost no overtaking chance... though medyo exciting dito kapag may accident... hehe... i remember yung schumi-jpm tunnel accident a few years ago. nakalabas na ang safety car eh si jpm yata nag try pa mag overtake.

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    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdamazda
    nabuhay si sir hens!

    mas boring nga ang monaco with almost no overtaking chance... though medyo exciting dito kapag may accident... hehe... i remember yung schumi-jpm tunnel accident a few years ago. nakalabas na ang safety car eh si jpm yata nag try pa mag overtake.
    Actually, it was JPM spinning his wheels while Schumi braking hard at the same time (both were trying to keep the heat up on the tires).

    Anyway, the race was really boring. When the leader is leading 10+ seconds and just lapped the scoring places...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha_One
    Anyway, the race was really boring. When the leader is leading 10+ seconds and just lapped the scoring places...
    Yup, parang basketball, meron ding blow-out. Parang Detroit Pistons going to the 4th quarter lamang ng 30 points. Garbage time na. Pagkakaiba lang sa F1, kahit lamang ka ng 10+ seconds with 1 lap to go, tapos nag-ala-Jenson Button yung makina mo sumabog just a few feet from the finish line. It happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyFerrari
    Yup, parang basketball, meron ding blow-out. Parang Detroit Pistons going to the 4th quarter lamang ng 30 points. Garbage time na. Pagkakaiba lang sa F1, kahit lamang ka ng 10+ seconds with 1 lap to go, tapos nag-ala-Jenson Button yung makina mo sumabog just a few feet from the finish line. It happens.
    And I generally don't consider "pit strategy" to be racing. To extend the basketball analogy, that's like watching a freethrow shootout - technically it's a game, you could compete that way, but it's boring as hell. All the races so far were about "pit strategy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha_One
    And I generally don't consider "pit strategy" to be racing. To extend the basketball analogy, that's like watching a freethrow shootout - technically it's a game, you could compete that way, but it's boring as hell. All the races so far were about "pit strategy".
    While a head-to-head shootout is definitely a highlight in F1 (borrowing Steve Slater's term: mano-y-mano), it happens not quite often. I find the chicane overtaking not that exciting din. But i like pit-stop strategies, because you can see the beauty of holistic race planning strategy - and not just a mano-y-mano, man-to-man duel. Your heart is pounding trying to find out if Schumacher will exit the pits ahead of Alonso, for example.... and he does, by just a couple of yards!!! That would have sent me out of my seat as a priceless moment.

    Pit-stop strategies give you a macro view of the race itself, not just the duels.

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    Monaco is the Hollywood of F1. And the circuit itself is a pleasant counter-programming and the nearest thing you can ever ask in having F1 cars racing in city streets. Man, I'll pay to watch F1 racing in the streets of San Francisco.

    The number 1 attraction in Monaco is the CRASHES!!! Every F1 racing great had their own spectacular crashes here. From Aryton Senna, Alonso, to Schumacher. You can't run wide here, and the mayhem is always awesome. The last memorable crash here to me was the one when Fisichella's Sauber car made a mid-air forward somersault after colliding with Coulthard when the race track was covered with a smokescreen from Taku Sato's blown-out Honda. Imagine if Yuji Ide is still around by then.

    They always say it's impossible to overtake in Monaco, which makes it boring. You probably didn't see Kimi Raikkonen's overtaking maneuvers last year when he won at Monaco. And also, there will always be slower cars that will be lapped, and so overtaking at high speeds will have to take place one way or another.

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    Last year was the "no tire change" year, and that lead to a lot of conservative driving, worn tires and off-track excursions. That's probably one of the few years you'll see a lot of overtaking at Monaco.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Ralf Schumacher is an idiot...

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