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    February 26th, 2003 10:19 AM #1
    Ok po ba 4x4s na A/T for serious off-roading? Curious lang po.

    Thanks.
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    February 26th, 2003 10:29 AM #2
    How serious are we talking here?

    Muds and rocks? Or the usual route and trails we occasionally traverse?

    Offroad trails nowadays are dry with some stream portions which A/Ts can handle well. While on rainy seasons it is better to be equiped with M/Ts.
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    February 26th, 2003 12:09 PM #3
    A/T's are more tolerant with water since they are sealed by nature. Yung breather tube na lang ang aalalahanin mo. With a M/T, water can enter the breather tube, the top (where the shiftlever enters) and the bellhousing when you step on the clutch midstream (a big no no).

    Sa mga Mitsubishi, considered tougher ang A/T kaysa sa 5-speed M/T na gamit ng mga Pajero. Just ask the www.outdoorwire.com fellows how many M/T's they have broken in off-roading. The matics are virtually bulletproof.

    Btw, I think I broke my tranny na. It makes some horrendous sounds already. Maybe I'll open it up when I graduate from my summer classes in automotive repair.

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    February 26th, 2003 12:22 PM #4
    yes i prefer AT for SERIOUS off roading!

    no more clutch permanently he..he
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    February 26th, 2003 06:42 PM #5
    A/Ts are generally preferred for off-roading (yung mga gusto ng M/T personal preference na lang yun, more challenging)... no clutch to worry about while rock crawling on a precarious cliff side, and the clutch is a part that is prone to damage...
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    February 28th, 2003 03:36 PM #6
    hmmm... saka masmasarap talaga ang matic kahit saan..!!
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    February 28th, 2003 10:24 PM #7
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    naah... mas masarap ang manual pag bukas ang daan at maraming kurbada :D
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    March 5th, 2003 11:17 AM #8
    ano ba pinag-uusapan dito, Transmission or Tires?

    AT = Automatic & All-Terrain Tires
    MT = Manual & Mud Terrain Tires

    so... :?:
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    March 5th, 2003 11:38 AM #9
    craw transmission ata,di rin ako sure.

    tanong lang talaga bang mas madali ang A/T sa off roading,panokung yung ka2lad ng ginawa natin sa urban offroading na iaakayat sa bato di ba mahirap estimate yun?

    tanong lang ulit kc yung sa pajero ng papa ko meron dun button na pagpinindot mo lalabas sa may speedometer na power or pagpinush mo backwards lalabas naman hold,para san kaya yun?
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    March 5th, 2003 04:35 PM #10
    jay crew,
    hehehe sige bahala na! sagot na kung may masasagot! :D

    anyway, kung tires, shempre MTs, kung transmission, MT pa rin pala. kasi mas kontrolado mo ang speed eh... pero kung mas madalas mong gagamitin as a daily driver ang ride and bihira lang for offroad, pwede na rin matic...
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    March 5th, 2003 04:48 PM #11
    jay crew,

    You can either use the handbrake or do left-foot braking sa mga ganung sitwasyon. Also, kapag naka-low range madali lang naman tantsahin ang gapang ng A/T.

    POWER: lilipat ang shifting point to a higher RPM. Iwan mo na lang sa ganitong mode tutal mahina naman makina ng Pajero, eh. Saka ilang hundred rpms lang naman ang itataas ng shift point.

    HOLD: para ito kung akyat-baba ang terrain para hindi malito ang transmission. It will hold on to gears longer para hiindi shift ng shift.

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    March 5th, 2003 04:54 PM #12
    yung sakin naman hindi lang POWER at HOLD. para din mas lalong hindi malito, meron siyang SIT, STAY, FETCH, SHAKE HANDS, etc...
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    March 5th, 2003 05:24 PM #13
    craw,
    sa aso yata yan eh..:mrgreen:
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    March 6th, 2003 02:34 AM #14
    craw iba na yan,mukang nagnangagat na,hehehe

    tnx otep last na pede kaya press ko yung power everytime oovertake,kasi ang pajero na matic puro ingay and bagal arangkada
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    March 6th, 2003 08:09 AM #15
    jay crew,

    Iwan mo na lang siya sa POWER mode all the time. Masisira lang ang switch kapag laging ginagalaw.

    Saka baka maaksidente ka pa sa kalalaro niyan.

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    March 6th, 2003 06:39 PM #16
    nakakaaliw din kasi minsan pag may pinipindot pagoovertake kunyari nos yun,hehehe

    cge ill take your advice lagi ko nalang siya ilalagay sa power
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    March 7th, 2003 01:42 PM #17
    hahahaha yun lang pala habol mo, yung papindot-pindot!



    uhh... bastus! :P
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    March 7th, 2003 04:57 PM #18
    craw mahilig kasi ako pindot pindot,hehehe

    OT magkano kuha mo ng vitara mo,naghahanap kasi sis ko yung mga 97 model
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