Avgas or Race gas

**1997 Eclipse GS-T** · August 17th, 2004 06:59 PM

Anyone know where I can get Avgas or Race gas on a regular basis? I also have heard that Petron will be coming out with REAL 100 octane fuel at 4 locations around Manila. Anyone know more about this? This pretend 95 - 96 octance we get locally is ****.

**niky** · August 27th, 2004 08:07 PM

Sounds interesting... 100 octane?!? Unleaded ba!?! I'm a-gonna wait for that. :D :D :D

If you want race gas, you can buy Outlaw Octane Booster at ACE Hardware in Megamall... medyo mahal nga lang, pero it boosts your octane about seven points... so...

If you have Blaze (97RON), which is most likely 93 test octane, and you mix one full tank with one bottle of Outlaw, it should get you 100 test octane... or 105-110 RON. But BEWARE... it's not O2 sensors safe, so you can't use it for extended periods.

Have you tried STP or other Octane boosters?

**iqaruzz** · August 27th, 2004 08:27 PM

kapag naka avgas tapos itinaas ko pa ang boost ng turbo ko sa mga 1bar. ano po ba ang parts sa makina na siguradong mauunang bumigay?

**niky** · August 27th, 2004 11:04 PM

aviation gas? on high boost?

I, for one, would not recommend using aviation gas unless you know exactly what you are doing... sure, it will help your engine resist ping and detonation on high boost, but it could seriously f*ck up your electronics (O2 sensors, MAP or MAF... etc.)...

**iqaruzz** · August 27th, 2004 11:25 PM

so kapag naka avgas at high boost walang masyadong detonation.
pero electronics ang matatamaan. Sa boost okay naman daw sabi ng mekaniko ko. Kasi naka HKS piggy back na chip. Kung sobra naman siguro ang init at iba ang readings ng o2 sensor baka kailangan ko na magupgrade ng chip din.

Bukas pupunta ako sa shop na ito. Baka kunin ko itong Greddy nila. Sa tinging nyo ma-reresolve?

http://www.advan.co.nz/trust-electronics.htm

**niky** · August 28th, 2004 12:29 AM

Up to your mechanic... if you trust him and he says it's fine... okay!

ask his advice also about the effects of avgas on your sensors... kung naka-piggyback ka naman, baka puedeng i-dummy nalang yung sensors mo (i.e.; fake sensors to fool your engine management system)... or baka di naman ganuung kalaki ang problem ng avgas... you're not going to use it every day naman. :D

**iqaruzz** · August 28th, 2004 06:16 AM

gusto ko lang itakbo ng 1/4 mile next month kasi

**JAYarc** · August 28th, 2004 06:02 PM

pano po malalaman ng ECU ang tamang ratio kung rich/lean pag tinangal or nag dummy ng O2 input..>>hehe

**iqaruzz** · August 29th, 2004 08:51 AM

kesa sa kukuha ng readings galing sa sensor. preset na sa ECU ang reading. Kung baka nag-a-asume na lang and ecu na ganon amount na O2 ang pumapasok.

**empy** · August 29th, 2004 08:59 AM

Originally posted by iqaruzz
kapag naka avgas tapos itinaas ko pa ang boost ng turbo ko sa mga 1bar. ano po ba ang parts sa makina na siguradong mauunang bumigay?

pistons, head gasket, connecting rods....blowing a con rod through the valve cover is a spectacular sight indeed...

you could also smoke your clutch or fry the electronics

it depends on the car though...if the car is well-built, 1 bar of boost is not too bad for short periods - my friend's eclipse could handle it with no problem