Your Thoughts on BIR's Ad Campaign?

[dr. d]

I wonder what will her doctor do when she complains of some ailment...[/QUOTE]

nothing. she'll get the same treatment, just like everybody else.
all physicians pride themselves in being able to deliver good medicine. we all had at least five years in training to do that.. it's something not easy to shrug off.. it's something we do even in our sleep...

[Helios]

i don't know what demographic kim was particularly targeting or did jwalterthompson missed the brief by a mile and went for the easy shockvertising instead.

the ad is quite vexing for relatives and friends who are in the medical field. i know nothing about their tax return but
tax avoiders and tax evaders can come in all flavours and sizes

the agency's running out of good ideas to kinda 'engage' your attention. so they settle for stupid ad campaign like this print which naturally backfires. advertising is just a small fraction of marketing. they could raise awareness and drive the point across, effectively if they committed themselves to the other aspects of marketing like pr and customer service and satisfaction. just too darn lazy.

"shut up and pay your taxes fool!" - mr. t

[shadow]

If you're paying the correct tax hinde ka dapat affected.

The ads named the offending tax cheat. Which happens to be a doctor. It didn't say ALL doctors are tax cheats.

Never pa ako na issue na receipt ng mga doctors, meron pala Isang doctor sa makati med mas mahal if you asked for a receipt. :lol:

Diba there was two ads came out of the paper. Yun isa parang chef naman but I don't remember kung anong field yun nakapasan or doctor din?


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#retzing

[Manilablock]

mali pa din ung add..

ang dapat na ipinakita ay

1. pulitiko, legal daw na nanalo sa nakaraang election, hindi nag vote buying
2. mali ang SALN
3. Free Vehicle and fuel
4. Free Security
5. Naglalaro ng online games while asa office


At shempre, hindi dapat mawala ung Janitor.
1. Tagalinis ng office ni Pulitiko
2. Kaltas agad ang income tax bago pa man mahawakan ang sweldo
3. nakikipagsisksikan sa pagsakay ng MRT, then sasabit sa Jeepney, then mag tricycle
4. pag dating sa bahay bibigyan ung alagang aso ng tira tirang pagkain galing sa opis
5. bibilangin ang natitirang pera sa bulsa para malaman kung meron pang budget para sa pagpasok bukas..

[foresterx]

i totally understand and don't judge people who don't pay their tax properly. sino ba naman gaganahan mag bayad ng tax sa atin diba? for me i don't mind paying the proper tax and even if they raise it, it's totally fine with me as long as i see that my hard earned money is being spent properly and not being used by our government to pay for their luxurious life style. kaso talagang garapalan na pag nanakaw ginagawa sa atin, dapat nga since puro kalokohan lang ng yayari sa government natin eh pwede tayo mag file ng tax return at tigil ang pag bayad ng tax hanggat di na kukulong mga sangkot kay napoles. tingnan natin kung hindi bumilis ang kaso nan.

[kapitan88]

just imagine what would happen to our country, if pareho lahat ng palusot na di dapat magbayad ng buwis, dahil may nagnanakaw sa gobyerno; {papano yung ibang matino?}; di dapat magbayad, until yung ibang kilalang tax evader ay magbayad muna {pano magfunction ang govt?}

yung mga tinamaan, puro palusot . . . imagine nyo lang kung lahat ng tao sa pinas ay same ng palusot nyo at wag din magbayad?

[shadow]

mali pa din ung add..

ang dapat na ipinakita ay

1. pulitiko, legal daw na nanalo sa nakaraang election, hindi nag vote buying
2. mali ang SALN
3. Free Vehicle and fuel
4. Free Security
5. Naglalaro ng online games while asa office


At shempre, hindi dapat mawala ung Janitor.
1. Tagalinis ng office ni Pulitiko
2. Kaltas agad ang income tax bago pa man mahawakan ang sweldo
3. nakikipagsisksikan sa pagsakay ng MRT, then sasabit sa Jeepney, then mag tricycle
4. pag dating sa bahay bibigyan ung alagang aso ng tira tirang pagkain galing sa opis
5. bibilangin ang natitirang pera sa bulsa para malaman kung meron pang budget para sa pagpasok bukas..

kung mga janitors, minimum earners wala naman tax diba? saka huwag na tayo paka plastic, malaki talaga difference ng janitors to CEO or even to managers, so hinde natin pwede compare, example mga katulong 3-5k monthyl sweldo, but tayong mga amo dropped that same amount sa isang kainan sa restaurant

[ClaNker]

If you're paying the correct tax hinde ka dapat affected.

The ads named the offending tax cheat. Which happens to be a doctor. It didn't say ALL doctors are tax cheats.

Never pa ako na issue na receipt ng mga doctors, meron pala Isang doctor sa makati med mas mahal if you asked for a receipt. :lol:

Diba there was two ads came out of the paper. Yun isa parang chef naman but I don't remember kung anong field yun nakapasan or doctor din?


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#retzing

Meron pang ibang group.

Henares further said that the BIR is not singling out doctors since they also have other advertisements targeting online sellers and accountants.

Question is... Magkano ang ginagastos ng BIR sa shame campaign na to?

Why not go after these tax evaders than waste the tax payers money on these stupid adds. Not unless galing sa bulsa ni mongoloid henares ang binayad dyan sa adds na yan.

[A121]

Kinda frustrating indeed. Dati pumila ako sa BIR para magpalipat ng RDO, inabot ako 3 hours para sa isang stamp.

I don't think we need a shame campaign. It's wrong, you are creating adversity among different groups. It creates a wrong culture. What I am thinking is a campaign that promotes positivity eh. Pay your taxes correctly, and the result will be good. Pero dapat i-backup nila yun with the effect of paying correct taxes.

[dr. d]

Question is... Magkano ang ginagastos ng BIR sa shame campaign na to?.[/QUOTE]

wala daw. grant daw galing sa isang urganisasyon sa USA ang nag-bigay ng salapi...

[ClaNker]

wala daw. grant daw galing sa isang urganisasyon sa USA ang nag-bigay ng salapi...

Ah yes.

The print ad is supported by Millennium Challenge Corp. through the Millennium Challenge Account-Philippines, which awarded to JWT Philippines a P108-million contract for a public awareness campaign for the BIR.

The campaign is implemented under the Revenue Administration Reform Program, one of the initiatives funded by a $434-million grant from the US government.


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P108-million contract.

[Ry_Tower]

Ah yes.



P108-million contract.

wow. Ang laki ha. Ang laki nang galit nila sa mga non-tax payers. hehehe

Sabagay bilyon naman ang nawawala sa kaban nang bayan dahil sa mga tax evaders.

[jut703]

My thoughts on evading tax because it's not put into good use - be the change you want to be in this world.

Evading tax is thievery, just like stealing from the public's coffers.


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[shadow]

If one is paying the correct taxes. I don't know why you should feel alluded to. Doesn't make sense. Baka guilty?


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#retzing

[shadow]

^I don't think it's right to say na pinipiliit dahil obligation naman talaga ng Isang citizen.

Saka yun style na Gawin niyo muna sa iba or Gawin niyo muna Sa bakuran niyo is stupid. The fact that SOME doctors oh ayan para hinde masaktan nanaman at sabihin generalization nanaman hinde nag babayad ng correct taxes eh dapat talagang I call out. Ewan ko bakit kailangan I defend yun mga tax evaders.

Ibalik natin doon sa PMA. Ayusin niyo kasi yun ranks ninyo mga tax evaders.


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#retzing

[niky]

Ibalik natin doon sa PMA. Ayusin niyo kasi yun ranks ninyo mga tax evaders.


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#retzing

The PMA's code of ethics covers ethical considerations with regards to the following of the law, including tax law, and also the prescription of generic medicines.

Unfortunately, as has been pointed out by some doctors, there are parts of the code that make creating a table of fees nearly impossible for physicians, to whit:

A physician shall waive his professional fees to a colleague, his or
her spouse, children and parents who are financially dependent on him.

(Lucky me, I'm the dependent of a doctor. )

And:

Professional fees should be commensurate to the services rendered
with due consideration to the patient’s financial status, nature of the case, time
consumed and the professional standing and skill of the physician in the
community.

Again: This is not to say there are no tax cheats among physicians. But this is also not to say there are no tax cheats amongst businessmen, sari sari store owners, PUV operators, lawyers, architects or other professionals who do work on the side or who are self-employed.

But not all physicians are self-employed. And even amongst those who are, many give very generous deductions in fees or sometimes completely waive consultation fees for regular patients if they feel the fees are too onerous or if the patient's case is severe. There really is no "one-size-fits-all" fee. Not like with College professors where there is a set curriculum and set hours and we can calculate exactly what a professor's time is worth. (when doctors teach, we pay them a set fee. iba na yun sa clinical consultation).

If there are bad eggs out there, by all means, pursue them. But the PMA and the doctors have a right to defend their honour. Just as the other PMA, and the soldiers, have a right to defend their honor against criticism by people who are quick to judge the entire profession on the basis of the acts of a few.

[Helios]

P108-million contract.

a million pesos and a bit more should cover a standard print ad per issue plus agency's fees. 108 mil smackaroos will buy you a tv commercial, magazine ad, web content, poster, jingle, dance choreo, celeb endorsement, etc, any of which is a far more an effective tool than the current bir's screw-up

and the 434 million dollar grant in the wrong hands will
- suppress corruption (not)
- promote accountability and transparency (in your dreams)
most probably the other way around


bir's bad execution undermines their noble intention. what a waste.

next time, test it first before a launch

[CVT]

If there are bad eggs out there, by all means, pursue them. But the PMA and the doctors have a right to defend their honour. Just as the other PMA, and the soldiers, have a right to defend their honor against criticism by people who are quick to judge the entire profession on the basis of the acts of a few.

Bro.,- honestly,- I would like to believe that there are only a few of them, even if my limited exposures are on the big hospitals.

However, realistically,- I think that there's a multitude of them, sadly.

Again,- we should all contribute our fair share in nation building.



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[confused shoes]

^ Ang nakakapuna kasi sa mga gawain ng mga docs natin ay ang karamihan. Syempre si BIR ang doctor ang uunahin dahil maraming susuporta sa kanya.

Eh yung book keeper at accountants, nagreresibo ba pag nagpagawa tayo ng libro? Mas malala kesa doctor yan. Kasi hindi nakikita ng masa. Pag nagparesibo ka baka dadagdagan ang babayaran mo sa tax! Saan ka?

Yung mga engineers at architects. Sige nga magpagawa kayo ng simpleng plano ng bahay kung magreresibo yan ng tama?

[ClaNker]

^ Ang nakakapuna kasi sa mga gawain ng mga docs natin ay ang karamihan. Syempre si BIR ang doctor ang uunahin dahil maraming susuporta sa kanya.

Eh yung book keeper at accountants, nagreresibo ba pag nagpagawa tayo ng libro? Mas malala kesa doctor yan. Kasi hindi nakikita ng masa. Pag nagparesibo ka baka dadagdagan ang babayaran mo sa tax! Saan ka?

Yung mga engineers at architects. Sige nga magpagawa kayo ng simpleng plano ng bahay kung magreresibo yan ng tama?

Gumastos lang naman ng malaking pera ang BIR for something we already know.



Yan ang BIR. Wala namang effect ang shame campaign na to, they will still have to prosecute.

At para di ka habulin eh areglohin si director, prepare ka ng sobre.