Your Thoughts on BIR's Ad Campaign?

[Ry_Tower]

The BIR should make it clear. Fictitious character ito imho. Sana nilagay nila dyan yung proven by a court na guilty. lagay lang nila disclaimer kung LC, CA, SC na ang nagbigay nang decision para fool-proof.

The physician, a certain Marjorie Villena, who supposedly earned P1,075,080.52 paid only P7,424 in taxes while the teacher, a certain Carina Santos, whose salary amounted to P852,169.48, paid P221,694.23 in taxes.

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[jhnkvn]

More than 60k ang salary ng public school teacher?


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Kung kurakot, yep. I've heard there are public school administrators who receive more than their private counterparts.

[chua_riwap]

More than 60k ang salary ng public school teacher?


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di siguro.
magtitinda pa ba ng tocino yan kung yan sweldo nila.

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[leodawesome]

IMO, kahit ano pang professional ang ilagay jan, if you are paying your due taxes diligently, di ka dapat apektado jan. Hindi naman nilagay na 'lahat ng doktor' or 'lahat ng _____'.

In my lifetime, halos lahat ng doctor na napupuntahan ko, puro temporary receipt lang ang binibigay, hindi OR at walang TIN. Yung iba irerequest mo pa na bigyan ka ng OR for reimbursements. Bilang lang ang nagbibigay talaga outright, wala ng request request. Ganun din naman yung ibang professionals na nakakatransact ko, nagkataon lang na masmadalas ako sa mga doctor kaya sila example ko. Wala sana magagalit.

[zap.FREEDOM]

More than 60k ang salary ng public school teacher?


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60k too exaggerated...salaries of our public teachers nowadays are much decent compared to the previous years...afaik, their salaries now are ranging from 15k - 25k according to my aunt who is working in a public school in the province. but then again, due to deductions and contributions...they can only take home clean money something no more than 18k.

[BratPAQ]

siguro kung nilagay nila ng "PASAWAY" na word yung ad di magrereklamo yung mga doctor

[Ry_Tower]

While there are a lot of rich doctors who don't file proper taxes, sobrang unfair yung generalization.

Not all doctors are rich. A whole lot of them are pretty poorly off, considering how much they spent studying.

You have doctors in the barrios, doctors who work in government hospitals, doctors who work for emergency services (like our very own OTEP), and doctors who do charity work.

A lot of those doctors are extremely offended by the ad.

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Pero, baguhin natin. Wag naman doctor. Gawin nating OFW:

Tutal... maraming OFW na TNT at di nag-re-remit naman, diba? That's a fact. So kung OFW yung nasa ad, di dapat ma-offend yung mga nag-re-remit at legal na umalis, di ba?

Oops... sandali... bayani mga OFW... gawin natin mga prostitute.

Prostitute: libo-libo kita kada gabi. Walang taxes. High-life pa. Immoral pa. Fair naman, diba? Kung di ka naman rich prostitute, at white slave ka lang, di ka dapat ma-offend... tama?

Oops... baka magalit Gabriela... loan sharks naman.

Bumbay! May turban pa! Itong dayuhang walanghiyang nag-e-exploit ng mga pinoy... illegal na 5-6... malaki kita... di naman dapat magalit yung mga legal na Bumbay... wala naman silang ginagawang illegal.

Oops... baka racist daw. Sige... doctor nalang... tutal naman... puro masama yung mga doctor, diba? Di naman sila nagpakahirap mag-aral ng lampas dekada para maging doctor... at di naman nagbibigay ng discount sa mga mahihirap (o libreng consultation)... di rin nagbibigay ng free samples ng gamot sa mga pasyente para makamura. Sige... doctors nalang.


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Itong gobyerno nating nagbabawal sa media ng mga palabas at sulat na nagpapasimuno ng pagkawalang respekto sa mga authority figures (nasa batas yan, ha)... ang yabang naman mambastos ng isang buong sektor ng lipunan at magpauso ng mga stereotypes na naninira sa mga taong nagbibigay ng serbisyo sa sarili nilang bayan.

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TLDR: prosecute the rich doctors who don't remit. Don't tar and feather all the other doctors, too. Assholes.

Huwag yung mga escorts natin, sige kayo, magiging mahal R&R natin niyan.

siguro kung nilagay nila ng "PASAWAY" na word yung ad di magrereklamo yung mga doctor

Puwede. "Dr. Pa-SUA-y..." at least specific, mga pasaway lang tinitira. hehehe

Tapos "Titser Bait".

[Ry_Tower]

60k too exaggerated...salaries of our public teachers nowadays are much decent compared to the previous years...afaik, their salaries now are ranging from 15k - 25k according to my aunt who is working in a public school in the province. but then again, due to deductions and contributions...they can only take home clean money something no more than 18k.

Both my parents (died and retired) are public school teachers. My sister is with the accounting dep't of DepEd Division office, hawak niya payroll and benefits computation nang buong city. Ngayon na lang lumaki suweldo nang mga yan. Tama estimate ni zap.FREEDOM. P15K usual starting salary kapag regular na. Master teacher 2 na pinakamataas nasa P30K+ ang take-home, pareho lang sa principal sa maniwala kayo o hindi (kung sagad na step increment ha).

Kurap lang na titser kumikita nang malaki. Yung may lagay na nakukuha, nakikialam sa mga budget/purchasing, mga nakikialam sa rent nang puwesto sa canteen, "projects nang mga bata" etc etc etc.

Kawawa yung mga munisipyo or City hall nagpapasuweldo. Delayed na, min pa halos. Kapag sa mega city ka, maliit pa din starting, suwerte yung sa province. kay mga teacher na baguhan, maganda Cp at may personal laptop kasi kaya yung hulugan.

[miked]

Both my parents (died and retired) are public school teachers. My sister is with the accounting dep't of DepEd Division office, hawak niya payroll and benefits computation nang buong city. Ngayon na lang lumaki suweldo nang mga yan. Tama estimate ni zap.FREEDOM. P15K usual starting salary kapag regular na. Master teacher 2 na pinakamataas nasa P30K+ ang take-home, pareho lang sa principal sa maniwala kayo o hindi (kung sagad na step increment ha).

Kurap lang na titser kumikita nang malaki. Yung may lagay na nakukuha, nakikialam sa mga budget/purchasing, mga nakikialam sa rent nang puwesto sa canteen, "projects nang mga bata" etc etc etc.

Kawawa yung mga munisipyo or City hall nagpapasuweldo. Delayed na, min pa halos. Kapag sa mega city ka, maliit pa din starting, suwerte yung sa province. kay mga teacher na baguhan, maganda Cp at may personal laptop kasi kaya yung hulugan.

maybe OT here.

i remember yung previous principal nina misis. tawag ko nga e "principal fixer". nung nasa local school board pa misis ko e gusto manggood time ng 2 months worth na salary para mapermanent at maabsorb sa deped si misis. anliit din kaya pasahod nun tsaka usually 6 months nadedelay ang sweldo kaya parang isang kahig isang tuka kami nun. pero di nagpatinag misis ko sa kanya. langya, anliit na nga sweldo ganon pa gusto mangyari. buti nagpalit na principal. kaso by next year e magpapalit na naman at yung dati e gusto bumalik. sabi ko nga pahihirapan muna iyon (principal) bago mamamatay.

well, indirect yung mga pahiwatig nya (principal) pero isang salita na lang kumbaga e parang gustong mangyari e lumuhod na misis ko para mapermanent. kaso maabilidad din naman si misis pagdating sa school work. halos lahat ng paperworks, computer jobs para sa halos lahat ng school activity e gusto nila sya lahat trumabaho. so nagkaroon din sya ng edge to demand better compensation (permanency). tsaka sabi ko, "nakikita ka nilang indispensable asset sa school" kaya lumaban ka na rin tutal kinakawawa ka na. pero ngayon e permanent na.

about 2 years pa lang mula nung nagkalaptop si misis. surplus pa sa halagang P1000 lang. buti buhay pa ngayon yung unit. kasi kung brand new malaking realignment ng budget namin. hehe

[cast_no_shadow]

If you're paying your dues properly why get affected? Hindi naman nga nilahat ng doctors yung ad.

And yes mostly mga doctor na napuntahan ko either walang resibo or meron man hindi talaga official receipt yun binibigay.

Walang standard sa charges and if you asked for a discount regarding your philhealth benefits they just blurt out na its already deducted.

Sa office namin andami complaints against some doctors. Some claiming for dubious/fabricated claims, ghost patients etc. Some don't
give out philhealth deductions yet they reimburse to us members confinements.

Again hindi ko nilalahat ha?.

We had this conversation sa office, lets say kahit mga employed hindi outright ang tax deductions? Will we pay properly kaya?


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[macsd]

We had this conversation sa office, lets say kahit mga employed hindi outright ang tax deductions? Will we pay properly kaya?

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The answer is at your finger tips...everyone is trying to max out their exemption (list down everyone in the family as allowable dependents) accountants also max out the corporate exemptions etc... so everyone's idea is pay the least amount available provided under the book of taxation. The fact is it's hard to let go a big chunk of earning knowing you ain't gonna get nothing in return worse pocketed by most goverment employee or official.

[glenn_duke]

Unahin nila yung mga nasa gobierno na nagbabayad nga ng tamang buwis pero x100000000 naman ang kinukurakot. Kasama na dyan ang BIR.

[Gerbo]

If you're paying your dues properly why get affected? Hindi naman nga nilahat ng doctors yung ad.

And yes mostly mga doctor na napuntahan ko either walang resibo or meron man hindi talaga official receipt yun binibigay.

Walang standard sa charges and if you asked for a discount regarding your philhealth benefits they just blurt out na its already deducted.

Sa office namin andami complaints against some doctors. Some claiming for dubious/fabricated claims, ghost patients etc. Some don't
give out philhealth deductions yet they reimburse to us members confinements.

Again hindi ko nilalahat ha?.

We had this conversation sa office, lets say kahit mga employed hindi outright ang tax deductions? Will we pay properly kaya?


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yon nga problema na-generalize, eh!

and i definitely think lawyers are much worse. sana lawyers na lang ginamit nila sa ad.

[jut703]

Not all doctors are tax evaders, but on the flip side, not all doctors are doctors to the barrio as well. Kung makareact kasi mga tao, parang kawawang kawawa mga doctor eh.

Also, it's hard to argue with facts. The average doctor earns more than the average public school teacher. But guess who pays more in taxes?




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[ClaNker]

Not all doctors are tax evaders, but on the flip side, not all doctors are doctors to the barrio as well. Kung makareact kasi mga tao, parang kawawang kawawa mga doctor eh.

Also, it's hard to argue with facts. The average doctor earns more than the average public school teacher. But guess who pays more in taxes?




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The go after these tax evaders and stop wasting peoples taxes on this ridiculous shame campaign.

[Ry_Tower]

The go after these tax evaders and stop wasting peoples taxes on this ridiculous shame campaign.

Mabuti pa, mahal kaya print ad esp mainstream newspaper.

Good intention, bad implementation. Press release na lang siya, mas mura. Hehe.imho lang naman

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[macsd]

Or mag suicide na lang si KH at baka maraming mag abuloy and that will go all to BIR.

[niky]

Not all doctors are tax evaders, but on the flip side, not all doctors are doctors to the barrio as well. Kung makareact kasi mga tao, parang kawawang kawawa mga doctor eh.

Also, it's hard to argue with facts. The average doctor earns more than the average public school teacher. But guess who pays more in taxes?




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Like I said: change doctors to "Indians" or "Chinese" and both groups will react the same. Even if there's a grain of truth, if you sling mud in a general direction by singling out one specific group, you are going to make even the innocent angry.

A lot of doctors I know who ARE government hospital workers / emergency responders or barrio doctors are deeply offended by the ad.

[dr. d]

A lot of doctors I know who ARE government hospital workers / emergency responders or barrio doctors are deeply offended by the ad.[/QUOTE]

i'm one of them (the government doctor, though you don't know me). and i am not offended. i am angered... instead of identifying with the doctor, i identified with the teacher! that someone in my profession is getting a free ride on my shoulders! i am also hoping and praying that something good will come out of all this..

[rac98]

yon nga problema na-generalize, eh!

and i definitely think lawyers are much worse. sana lawyers na lang ginamit nila sa ad.

Ah, she won't allow that... kasi abugado din sya. Baka sya ilalagay sa taas kung sakali.

I wonder what will her doctor do when she complains of some ailment...