Are you happy/satisfied with your Religion?

[yobma]

sorry my bad..... talked to an officemate who attends CCF.
yes, they do believe in the Holy Spirit. but they dont believe lang on speaking in tongues (actually, i personally dont believe this also)

No problem bro. Yes speaking in tounges is not widely practiced in CCF. it is not however something that CCF forbids for those who has that gift. Rather the focus is in evangelism and this is where CCF is strong.

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[170kphlang]

was a catholic before and was invited to ccf also but now i'm an open christian. no offense to both but meron sila mga teachings at sinasabi na no matter how i look at it di ako agree at di ma-take ng konsiyensya ko. just a strong feeling na something is not right.

[french]

was a catholic before and was invited to ccf also but now i'm an open christian. no offense to both but meron sila mga teachings at sinasabi na no matter how i look at it di ako agree at di ma-take ng konsiyensya ko. just a strong feeling na something is not right.

Your priority is to do good to your fellowmen and society.

Religion is second-tier.

[rfgoons]

Correct me if wrong, the basic differences, among others, between protestants and catholics are 1) the former believe in faith alone, meaning faith to God, even if one does not perform good deeds is enough to save him while in the latter, faith and good work are necessary for one to be saved. 2) protestants adhere solely to the teachings of the bible, while catholics believed in the teachings of the bible and traditions (dogmas/teachings) handed down by the apostles and their successors (popes) thru the ages. Protestants said that traditions have no biblical basis and should not be followed. Catholics, on the other hand, said that traditions are recognized with biblical approval when Jesus Christ gave St. Peter authority that whatever he binds on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatever he loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. Without meaning disrespect to protestants, catholics' beliefs are true to God' s will for us, humans.

[french]

Without meaning disrespect to protestants, catholics' beliefs are true to God' s will for us, humans.

Really?

GOD COMMANDS: “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath".

[kinyo]

GOD COMMANDS: “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath".

nabanggit pala sa bible yung hollow earth?

at saka reincarnation (born again)?

[donbuggy]

^ Tama pala si OB.

[rfgoons]

Selecting only one passage in the bible without taking into the context the whole may seem not always correct. Likewise, interpreting the bible in his individual ways and convenience is not right. Moreover, looking at the practice at the surface without looking deeper is wrong.

[yobma]

Selecting only one passage in the bible without taking into the context the whole may seem not always correct. Likewise, interpreting the bible in his individual ways and convenience is not right. Moreover, looking at the practice at the surface without looking deeper is wrong.

You are correct on this bro. Which brings to point the importance of knowing your Bible so you know if the verse being mentioned is being applied appropriately or is being used out of context.

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[cardict]

Whatever religious belief you're into,that should not be the cause of argument which is better,as long as you follow the GOLDEN RULE

[french]

Selecting only one passage in the bible without taking into the context the whole may seem not always correct. Likewise, interpreting the bible in his individual ways and convenience is not right. Moreover, looking at the practice at the surface without looking deeper is wrong.

GOD COMMANDS: “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath".

That is not just one verse. That above is the the 2nd Commandment.

So how do you justify people dying or getting injured trying to touch that black idol in Quiapo?

Those bantays must be free from diseases and getting all their wishes by touching that statue for so long. LOL!

[donbuggy]

I'm not happy because my prayers are not answered.

Simple lang naman ang request ko: "Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz..."

[rfgoons]

To Sir French
Hi, it took a longer time to ponder whether to respond to your post as I don't want to make this a bashing of religious belief and faith. Besides, nobody ins in religious arguments. I do not also disrespect others on their religious belief. the second commandment is found in Exodus 20 and also in Deuteronomy 5. However, how can you explain that in Numbers 21:8-9, God commanded Moses to "Make a fiery serpent and set it on standard; and whoever has been bitten (by snakes) and then looks at it shall live." Moses "made a bronze serpent and set it on standard. Whenever a man was bitten, he looked towards the bronze serpent and he lived." Likewise, in Exodus 25:18-22, God ordered Moses to make two cherubim in the seat of Mercy. In Exodus 26:31, a veil had a depiction of cherubim. In I Kings 7-25, the laver at the temple was upheld by a dozen brass oxen. In exodus 28:9-11, the stones on the garment of the High Priest were engraved. In I Kings 7:36, the panels in the temple were engraved with lions, cherubim and palm trees. These are all graven or carved images. Did God forbid the making, displaying and using of graven or carved or religious images? Are these really forbidden? Is God inconsistent on his commandment? Can you explain that to me? I will give to you my answer in my next post.

[rfgoons]

To continue with my post: As I mentioned earlier, a passage should be taken in context with the other verses. It is really a matter of INTENTION. I believe and as most mature catholics believe that God did not prohibit the making, displaying and using of images, statues, etc. depicting anything that are in heaven or things on earth or in the water such as our Lord Jesus carrying the cross or nailed on it or the Blessed Virgin Mary or the Saints or holy men and women and the angels. In the context of the passages,what God forbids is the worship of pagan idols or gods. Our Almighty God is the only God of the universe and everyone should worship Him and only Him. It is alright to make a sculpture or images of a religious figure so long as you do not worship it as a god. Touching, offering flowers, lighting candles to the Blessed Virgin Mary, the saints as a sign of veneration, devotion, reverence and respect are not worshiping. Rather, these are our ways to remind us of the holiness of these people who during their lives on earth have done the will of God. And they shall serve as our inspiration to be good christians. Further, if we are forbidden from making carved or graven images or religious images, our world will be a dreary place. Society will be ruled by the likes of the talibans. Michaelangelo may not have made his religious masterpieces. We could not have admired the works of art of great artists of the world. beautiful paintings of the Madonna and films and pictures of filmmakers could not have been produced. Our churches could have been blank spaces.
I will continue in my next post as this is now going lengthy.

[gutz_3110]

I'm not happy because my prayers are not answered.

Simple lang naman ang request ko: "Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz..."

si janis jolin sasagot nyan sayo lolz!

[donbuggy]

si janis jolin sasagot nyan sayo lolz!

So I should pray to Janis Joplin? Okay.

[CVT]

si janis jolin sasagot nyan sayo lolz!

Nice one bro.,-

Basta sa akin, - may Kape, Rosario, at Salvacion pa,- ayos na....


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[radz15]

GOD COMMANDS: “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath".

That is not just one verse. That above is the the 2nd Commandment.

So how do you justify people dying or getting injured trying to touch that black idol in Quiapo?

Those bantays must be free from diseases and getting all their wishes by touching that statue for so long. LOL!

INC ako pero tingin ko sa mga deboto sa Nazareno ang alam nila basta mapunasan lang ang imahe eh gagaling na sila or suswertehin na sa buhay/business. Pero kaya yung iba na nagsasabi na Sinuwerte daw sila or gumaling sa sakit its because of their strong faith to Jesus/God. Naging parang instrument lang yung Narazeno.

[french]

INC ako pero tingin ko sa mga deboto sa Nazareno ang alam nila basta mapunasan lang ang imahe eh gagaling na sila or suswertehin na sa buhay/business. Pero kaya yung iba na nagsasabi na Sinuwerte daw sila or gumaling sa sakit its because of their strong faith to Jesus/God. Naging parang instrument lang yung Narazeno.

Naging Superstition ang mga santo-rebulto sa Pilipinas.

Gagaling daw ang sakit at darating ang swerte pag na hawakan ang statwa.

What part of the 2nd Commandment “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath" is so hard to understand?

[radz15]

Naging Superstition ang mga santo-rebulto sa Pilipinas.

Gagaling daw ang sakit at darating ang swerte pag na hawakan ang statwa.

What part of the 2nd Commandment “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath" is so hard to understand?

Madaming catholic ang hindi nagbabasa ng Bible. Its hard for them to understand kasi naging tradition na sa kanila yan.