are you in favor of Gov't giving subsidies left and right?

**shadow** · June 18th, 2008 02:30 PM

I tend to agree with this article, how long can the Gov't sustain this giving out of subsidies? we have a saying that ""Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a life time.". ...

tinuturuan lang natin lalong maging tamad mga tao....if they continue doing this in the long run LAHAT mas mag suffer hinde lang yun mga tinutulungan ngayon...by not balancing the fiscal year lalong mas maapektuhan lahat ng Filipino...

‘Like putting money in basket with a hole’

June 18, 2008 04:44:00
Kristine L. Alave Michael Lim Ubac
Philippine Daily Inquirer
MANILA, Philippines—Giving subsidies to poor families may momentarily help them cope with the food and energy crises but it is like throwing money away.
A Roman Catholic Church leader, two senators and a leading member of the academe voiced this concern Tuesday in reaction to the dole policy enunciated by President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
“The money comes from the taxes paid to the government. When it has been distributed, it disappears immediately,” Jaro, Iloilo Archbishop Angel Lagdameo, the president of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines, said in an interview on the Church-run Radio Veritas.
“It’s like putting money in a basket with a hole in the bottom,” Lagdameo said, adding that “dole-outs may even aggravate poverty.”
Lagdameo said that instead of handing out financial packages, the administration should focus on long-term developmental solutions, like eradicating corruption.
It’s band aid
Senators Manuel Roxas II and Richard Gordon told reporters the government should shift its strategy from dole-out to achieving rice self-sufficiency.
“This dole-out policy is band aid. Maybe this is stop-gap, might give a little help, but this is not the real solution needed by our countrymen because this money will eventually run out without fixing the problem,” said Roxas, an opposition senator.
Gordon pushed for an emergency employment program in irrigation and rice production.
“Right now, I prefer job creation instead of giving dole-outs—all of that is good, providing temporary relief—what is important is you create jobs. You can have more jobs and create infrastructure at the same time,” Gordon said.
He said the government could give jobs to people to repair destroyed irrigation facilities.
“If you do that, you don’t only take care of the rice crisis by making sure that you’re able to produce what is needed—the gap in production—you provide them with buying power,” Gordon said.
To mitigate the impact of rising prices of food, power and fuel, the government is selling cheap rice, has launched a P2-billion power subsidy program for “lifeline” users, or P500 for those consuming 100 kilowatt hours or less a month, and distributing a maximum of P1,400 cash stipends for every poor family under the P5-billion Ahon Pamilyang Pilipino program.
‘For show’
Ms Arroyo has also set aside a P1-billion loan facility for operators and drivers of public utility vehicles, which will allow them to modify their engines so that they would use cheaper and environmentally friendly fuels.
Roxas pointed out that the government was wasting money with doles that hardly made a difference to the lives of ordinary people.
He said the subsidies were all for “political show.”
Long-term measures to follow
Speaking at a forum, University of the Philippines Prof. Walden Bello said the P1-billion subsidy for public transport drivers may just be another piece-meal solution to the energy crisis.
“The problem with this is, it’s another kind of a reactive kind of move,” Bello said.
Comprehensive strategy
Bello, president of the Freedom from Debt Coalition, said he was skeptical of the move because the government had, so far, failed to draw up a comprehensive plan to address the energy crisis.
“What we’re looking for is a comprehensive, emergency energy strategy, not piece-meal kind of responses.”
Bello proposed that the government subsidize fuel consumption of public transport drivers using funds meant for debt servicing, and designate service stations where oil at subsidized prices could be bought.
“We should keep gasoline rates fixed for a certain time, and only have them rise every month. The government should therefore pay a subsidy for the difference between the fixed rate and the market rates,” he said.
Palace defends subsidies
Budget Secretary Rolando Andaya Jr. Tuesday said the government had tapped the P114 billion in unprogrammed funds in the 2008 national budget for the one-time P500 power subsidy to lifeline power consumers.
Andaya said the unprogrammed funds or “standby appropriation” contained “lump-sum amounts which have specific purposes.”
Andaya explained that unprogrammed funds in the General Appropriations Act were “released only when revenues generated exceed the targeted revenues as enunciated under the Budget of Expenditures and Sources of Financing.”
Speaking at a meeting with her economic advisers, Ms Arroyo said “short-term” measures were being implemented by the government to mitigate the impact of rising oil and food prices on the poor.
But she said these must be followed by long-term measures to bolster the country’s food and energy security.
Speaker Prospero Nograles said the food and fuel crises justified the release of funds for the government subsidies.
Nograles said the legal issues being raised by some lawmakers in connection with the subsidies could be addressed later on. With reports from TJ Burgonio and Norman Bordadora
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**tidus1203** · June 18th, 2008 02:34 PM

Beyond the morals, I am more of an economic person and A BIG NO! I am a true blood capitalist, subsidies are just ways to appease people and be populist at the expense of true fiscal responsibility.

**1D4LV** · June 18th, 2008 02:37 PM

i agree with you both. ^^.
somehow its just GMA's building up her political aspects to the "masa" without thinking of what happens next (where the heck will the government get funds?), so that she will be protected from her piles and piles of cases when she goes down on 2010, or at least, an ally will win.

**shadow** · June 18th, 2008 02:38 PM

^^^I'm 100% with you bro, I think this will be very, very bad for the economy in the long run...maybe GMA is not thinking beyond 2010 na? since her term will be finish by then and bahala na yun susunod kung paano aayusin yun mess na iiwan niya...

**russpogi** · June 18th, 2008 02:42 PM

+1 on that! Imagine this, we pay taxes and the government is giving them away to people that DOES NOT pay taxes! Eh halos di natin napapakinabangan ang mga buwis natin eh! :fire:

**uls** · June 18th, 2008 02:53 PM

In favor or not, i'm following this closely...

Look at what the govt is doing...

cutting taxes, handing out cash...

subsidizing diesel, rice... asking telecoms to cut charges... asking Meralco to reduce rates...

Panic mode na yan. The govt will do anything to keep the angry, hungry masses from rioting in the streets.

Delikado ang panahon...

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The finance dept wants to sell the govt stake in Petron... to help the poor.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...0vI&refer=asia

http://business.inquirer.net/money/b...-poor----Teves

**shadow** · June 18th, 2008 03:02 PM

[quote=uls;1091149]In favor or not, i'm following this closely...

Look at what the govt is doing...

cutting taxes, handing out cash...

subsidizing diesel, rice... asking telecoms to cut charges... asking Meralco to reduce rates...

Panic mode na yan. The govt will do anything to keep the angry, hungry masses from rioting in the streets.

Delikado ang panahon...

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do they even have the rights to do that?

hehehe

**uls** · June 18th, 2008 03:03 PM

Dudes, on paper, mali nga ginagawa ng govt...

pero isipin nyo... pag nagwala ang mga poor, magbabago ang lifestyle ng middle class.

Will you still hang out at Starbucks pag may rioting and looting?

Yung mga pinakamamahal nyong mga oto... papaluin at babatohin...

Keep in mind that in hard times, the resentment poor people have towards those who are better off intensifies.

Pansin nyo mga crimes these days mas brutal... mas violent...

The govt is trying to maintain order. It is trying to hold back a tidal wave.

Tough job yan.

**CVT** · June 18th, 2008 04:44 PM

I agree that these are tough times.... But, IMO, it's still a move by the government to gain political mileage.... However, we are not ready to be a 'welfare state'....

Provide jobs for the poor. Use the money to make this happen. It's a long term investment, not something as short-sighted as this....

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