Wtf bir?!

[safeorigin]

BIR has been conducting 10 day surveillance on businesses recently. The local supermarket across the street that used to pay 250k in taxes now has to pay 60 f*cking million in penalties. WTF!? F*cking b*st*rds. And they don't even issue f*cking receipts for f*cking penalties.

/end of rant

[skybison]

style yan ng mga hinayupak na yan.... (ok lan sana if we taxpayers enjoying it. eg: nice roads)

pagkatapos sabihin yun "bagong/higher pay": "ser, pwede naman natin pagusapan eto"

[safeorigin]

Yeah, and we paid 340k in taxes and they wrote 200k in receipt. f*cking thieves

[glenn manikis]

Yeah, and we paid 340k in taxes and they wrote 200k in receipt. f*cking thieves

bakit pumayag ka naman? dapat entrap mo sila!!!

pusang DAAN MATUWID NA PNOY YAN.

[wowiesy]

bakit pumayag ka naman? dapat entrap mo sila!!!

pusang DAAN MATUWID NA PNOY YAN.

mahirap din magpatulong sa nbi para magpa entrap.. kung alam mo rin na may basis (kahit papano, although may not be that big yung magnitude)...

as a business.. going concern yun.. continuous... maaaring this year, ibang revenue officer kaharap mo.. next year iba uli.. but word goes around din within the BIR circles.. they also exchange notes kung sino ang easy target at sino yung hard targets... di naman yan gaya ng private citizen na nagpa entrap sa tulong ni Mon Tulfo.. one time transaction ganun... entrap agad...

dito.. every year.. sila makaharap mo.. (unless plano mo magsara ng business agad after ma entrap sila)... or unless by the time ma entrap sila.. ready ka na to comply on the laws (by next year.. makakaharap uli sila eh)...

[keithdb]

Ang tanong dyan is nagbabayad ba sila ng tamang taxes? sa tingin ko kasi kung tama ang binabayad di ka tatargetin ng mga yan since kumpleto documentary evidence mo kung sakali. baka naman tax evader kaya walang resibo at under the table lang.

[Ry_Tower]

bakit pumayag ka naman? dapat entrap mo sila!!!

pusang DAAN MATUWID NA PNOY YAN.

Hindi naman si PNoy yung nag-issue ng receipt diba? Bakit siya idadamay mo dito? Kung nagsumbong si SO, eh di sana nasa news na yan. Dito sa amin tumino na mga taga-BIR. Hindi katulad dati. Depende sa branch manager yan IMO.

[glenn manikis]

Hindi naman si PNoy yung nag-issue ng receipt diba? Bakit siya idadamay mo dito? Kung nagsumbong si SO, eh di sana nasa news na yan. Dito sa amin tumino na mga taga-BIR. Hindi katulad dati. Depende sa branch manager yan IMO.

tama ka dyan sir...

dapat talaga entrap nalang ang mga ganyan klase ng tao ng gobyerno.... mga kasama ko na nasa local govt. ang dami na namin na entrap at kinasuhan, na suspend natangal etc.... kahit mga Hepe pa... kaya ayun isang katutak ang death threats... pero it will never stop us from doing what is right.... (inuuna namin yung mga garapal)

[wowiesy]

BIR has been conducting 10 day surveillance on businesses recently. The local supermarket across the street that used to pay 250k in taxes now has to pay 60 f*cking million in penalties. WTF!? F*cking b*st*rds. And they don't even issue f*cking receipts for f*cking penalties.

/end of rant

the reason why these WTF BIR (di naman nilalahat) guys get away with this kind of thing is:
1. they target SMEs
2. they target big business, that think they (business owners / management) are still SMEs
3. they target big business, that don't know the law

same thing with labor din... (due process sa pagtanggal ng tao).. although now.. kahit with due process... pumapasok yung social justice (which wala naman standard... very subjective).. but i'm digressing..

going back to the topic.. the best way to "fight back" on this kind of tactics... is to:
1. get a legitimate, and knowledgeable tax consultant
2. know the tax laws and the impact on your business
3. implement / follow the tax laws..

It may not be guaranteed that doing all these will prevent you from being targeted by BIR (hell.. they even targeted Manny Pacquiao just to set an example na wala silang pinipili.. ).. but then by following all of these, you minimize your exposure...

ang challenge talaga dito is how to do all these, and yet still remain competitive sa market (with competitors not following these... ).. in a way. they are bound to be targeted eventually... una unahan lang..

question na lang is kung may enough funds silang naitabi to make the problem go away and start over...

[AKI125]

They always find faults with SMEs financial reports. Yearly nalang ako may penalties, they are now telling me to attend their taxation seminars to avoid mistakes. For me its a good investment for this seminar though sayang sa oras pero its for free. I already changed my accountant, hoping for the best for the remaining days of the year na wala na sila makitang mali sa busineses ko.

[steer]

to avoid inspections, change company name every three years.

[SiRbossR]

^is that effective? wouldn't they trace it up?

[AKI125]

They are wiser now than before, they are now checking the names of thr incorporators. Like the case of my sister where in she under went that same inspection/penalties stuffs done to her company she changed her company name but still the following year the BIR people are there again to check their financial reports. Same incorporators with the same address with a different name wont do any good in avoiding them.

[hein]

BIR has been conducting 10 day surveillance on businesses recently. The local supermarket across the street that used to pay 250k in taxes now has to pay 60 f*cking million in penalties. WTF!? F*cking b*st*rds. And they don't even issue f*cking receipts for f*cking penalties.

P5,000,000,000,000.00 kasi Utang ng Pilipinas.

Kailangan maghanap ng pera.

[pop3corn]

Well, good governance means efficient tax system. Yan ang gusto nyo eh daang matuwid so yan ang kapalit bayad kayo.


Kayo ako ever since, I'm for corruption coz if they are too busy being corrupt hindi na nila mababantayan lahat. Ang kawawa dito eh kayo mga may mga shops, wala talaga kayo ligtas dyan. Eh ako boiler room and online biz, mahirap na siguro ma-trace ako eh mgs damatans naman mga pulitiko and yan mga BIR, ano alam nila sa computer

Kaya never ako for the upgrading of our status eh, kse you are sll just giving more powers to them to get your money thru taxes pero tingin ko once on the top kunin pa din nila yan. Tignan nyo MWSS, nun 80s bwisit yan so pinrivatize parang maging efficient. So yun naging efficient ng hinawakan ni Lopez saka Ayala, tapos syempre since MWSS should be at the top like Napocor is to electricity, tiga-tanggap sila ng pera on top of sa kinita ng private Water companies, so there is surplus money. So what did MwSS did, uy surplus gawin 32month pay sweldo natin, para ma-declare as overhead costs, and therefore lugi pa MwSS.

Your idealism, patriotism or whatever it's called it backfires to you. Ginagamit lang kayo for a crusader cause, sayang lang effort nyo.

The world is simple, it's corruption, its what's in it for me attittude, live with it. Its better than frustated idealists aka wildcards na minsan yun pa nga ang pasimuno ng di kanais-nais ng event like wAr. Ever wonder why, most criminals are formers cops, same banana. Sobrang idealist, by the book, tas hindi pala ganun mundo pakikisama, tapos mag nervous breakdown and becomes his own enemy,

The world isn't fair, the world is compromise, what we shoud get rid of are impatient or conditional people



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[holdencaulfield]

ano ba yan, pinaalala niyo pa yang tax na yan.
may bir na binabayaran may city tax pa.
hirap na ngang kumita ng pera.