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    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    Yup, and the catholic church has been fleecing the Pinoys for centuries now.

    My banker friend who handled their account told me that the church remits about P800 Million of our money yearly back to Rome
    yearly

    The catholic church is one BIG business.....all Tax-free!!!!
    Yup, I believe in God, but I do not give even ONE CENT to the catholic church. All the PEDOPHILE PRIEST cover-up by the highest people of the Vatican has turned me off. The scandal had led up the Pope. In the end, he was forced to apologize after intense pressure from the righteous who have chosen to protect the poor children.

    I have been to Germany where the churches are mostly empty, but they treat each other with respect. The Germans do not litter, segregate their garbage, follow road discipline, maintain their forests and rivers, and perform best in everything they do.


    Baguio Trash Landslide. What would God say? "Ano ba kayo, hindi na kayo natuto? Pang ilang Wake-Up call na ito ah."

    The Pinoys pray hard, fill up the churches on Sunday, complete the novena and rosaries, hug and kiss statues, But look at what they do? They mess up the enviroment, throw garbage everywhere, poison the rivers, and empty the forests. Prostitution and gambling is rampant. Hold-ups, Kotong, kidnappings, bombings, and Hostage-taking occur very often. Corruption and Stealing is a way of life. And poor people live like dogs and eat garbage.

    In the dictionary, you would be described as Hypocrites.

    In the end, who does God favor? Who has the better life? That's the REALITY I have seen.

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    it will make us more practical in morality issues.

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    Anti Diyos=matalino....cool

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    A whole lot and a whale of a difference. Ako na siguro ang pinakaingratong nilalang na hindi kumikilala sa Lumalang sa akina. Men can never fathom the creation which scientist attribute to the big bang theory. At the onset, this theory is a farce and will not hold water. Simply because, it defies the cause and effect principle. Just think of the solar system and you will marvel of the brilliance of this creation, how the movements of the planets are so designed not to crash into each other. How the distance of the sun is such that the Earth which God created solely for the benefit of mankind, it's temperature is neither so hot nor so cold. In other words, life is sustain in the natural course of things which only a supreme being that is indeed GOD, the Creator has lovingly given us! I can rant on and on, ad nauseam, but it will always lead to GOD's creation. Simply put, we are all nothing without GOD! Remember, we are all created in HIS image. Life is not worth living without GOD. I exist because of GOD and I will vanish on earth by the grace of my Creator!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnomyar View Post
    A whole lot and a whale of a difference. Ako na siguro ang pinakaingratong nilalang na hindi kumikilala sa Lumalang sa akina. Men can never fathom the creation which scientist attribute to the big bang theory. At the onset, this theory is a farce and will not hold water. Simply because, it defies the cause and effect principle. Just think of the solar system and you will marvel of the brilliance of this creation, how the movements of the planets are so designed not to crash into each other. How the distance of the sun is such that the Earth which God created solely for the benefit of mankind, it's temperature is neither so hot nor so cold. In other words, life is sustain in the natural course of things which only a supreme being that is indeed GOD, the Creator has lovingly given us! I can rant on and on, ad nauseam, but it will always lead to GOD's creation. Simply put, we are all nothing without GOD! Remember, we are all created in HIS image. Life is not worth living without GOD. I exist because of GOD and I will vanish on earth by the grace of my Creator!
    life evolved on this planet coz the earth happened to be not too close to the sun that water would evaporate immediately and not too far from the sun that water would freeze immediately

    life needs water to be in liquid form

    it wasnt planned by some supernatural whatever

    it happened. it just happened

    there's no reason for it to happen. it just happened. why does everything have to have a reason?

    why do people think earth was created by someone for them? why do people think stars were created for them to look at in awe and amazement ?

    napaka self-important naman ng tao para isipin na ang earth, ang moon, ang mga stars ay ginawa para sa kanila

    billions and billions of stars out there also have planets orbitting them. billions and billions of planets. what are the chances that out of those many billions of planets, there are those that have earth-like conditions? what are the chances that life could have also evolved on those planets? plenty of chances

    people think humans are so special. one day life outside earth will be discovered. then people will question their faith. and lose their religion

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    ^I'll bet uls will bring out his eye opening thoughts on "creation"...

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    Aliens yan mga pre, long ago may mga superior alien race na dumating dito at dahil sa advanced na kaalaman sa biology sila nag disenyo sa atin...

    Yung mga dinosaur bat biglang namatay, malamang yan ang orig na inhabitants ng earth pero to pave the way for the alien race's new experiment which is tayo, inexterrminate sila.

    Ufo abductions? May ipapasok sa katawan ng na abduct tapos ibabalik din ng buhay? Malamang tinitingnan ng mga aliens kung kumusta yung kanilang mga creations, chnecheck nila kung ayos pa yung mga laruan nila..

    Bakit yung description ng mga ninuno natin sa mga diyos pag silay may encounter laging may malakas na kulog at maliwanag na ilaw? Spaceship yun na maingay at siguro spotlight...
    Hehe saya ng ganitong topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    Aliens yan mga pre, long ago may mga superior alien race na dumating dito at dahil sa advanced na kaalaman sa biology sila nag disenyo sa atin...

    Yung mga dinosaur bat biglang namatay, malamang yan ang orig na inhabitants ng earth pero to pave the way for the alien race's new experiment which is tayo, inexterrminate sila.

    Ufo abductions? May ipapasok sa katawan ng na abduct tapos ibabalik din ng buhay? Malamang tinitingnan ng mga aliens kung kumusta yung kanilang mga creations, chnecheck nila kung ayos pa yung mga laruan nila..

    Bakit yung description ng mga ninuno natin sa mga diyos pag silay may encounter laging may malakas na kulog at maliwanag na ilaw? Spaceship yun na maingay at siguro spotlight...
    Hehe saya ng ganitong topic
    i actually wanted to go in that direction -- that earth was visited by aliens long ago and primitive man couldnt explain the amazing things aliens can do (like fly) so primitive man described aliens as gods -- but i didnt wanna go in that direction coz many people see that as science fiction

    anyway, humans (homo sapiens) originated in Africa about 200,000 years ago. but it wasnt until a few thousand yrs ago that human civilization began. civilization meaning writing, math, agriculture, government, trade, currency, architecture, art, masonry, metalwork, leatherwork, pottery, weaving etc

    for many tens of thousands of years, human intelligence was stuck in first gear. then all of sudden a few thousand years ago human intelligence accelerated

    there are those who say alien intervention was responsible for the acceleration

    i'll stop here

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    Just say what you gotta say..kung yan ang opinion mo then so be it...fire away mr uls

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    read about Sumerian religion, Sumerian creation myth, Sumerian flood story

    the idea that man was formed from clay isnt original to Genesis

    and the Great Flood... it's also not original to Genesis

    read about other ancient religions/beliefs

    you'll find out many things written in the Bible had pagan origins

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    Ancient astronaut theory?...interesting topic we got here...j/k

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    just a thought...which of the two writings came first? The sumerian account or the bible? after we established which came first, then, and only then can we say that one is the original and the other is... Man's intelligence is but a speck, not even an iota to the Supreme Being... Just to quote "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding; In all thy ways acknowledge HIM in HE shall direct thy path".... the Bible is replete with information and guidance, written by the apostles as instructed by GOD. I believe if men did not interpret or translated it to their own limited view, that would have averted further confusion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnomyar View Post
    just a thought...which of the two writings came first? The sumerian account or the bible?
    it's pretty obvious you have not read about ancient civilizations with questions like that

    after we established which came first, then, and only then can we say that one is the original and the other is...
    we can easily establish that in a few seconds. google it

    you probably don't even know when the Torah was written

    Man's intelligence is but a speck, not even an iota to the Supreme Being... Just to quote "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto thine own understanding; In all thy ways acknowledge HIM in HE shall direct thy path".... the Bible is replete with information and guidance, written by the apostles as instructed by GOD. I believe if men did not interpret or translated it to their own limited view, that would have averted further confusion...
    ya im sure you memorized lots of Bible verses

    me too. i went to Catholic and Protestant schools

    hey, check out what the Nephilim is

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    ^Sumerian and other beliefs came first. Basta BC ang date, before the birth of Christianity na yan. AD a yung time ni Jesus and beyond.
    Anno Domini - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    read about Sumerian religion, Sumerian creation myth, Sumerian flood story

    the idea that man was formed from clay isnt original to Genesis

    and the Great Flood... it's also not original to Genesis

    read about other ancient religions/beliefs

    you'll find out many things written in the Bible had pagan origins
    True, that is because in order to spread christinity during that time, writers/scholars of the church need to present it a a manner more susceptible to the views of the people where they are going to teach it. That's what theology is, learning the nooks and cranny of religions (not just RC).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post

    True, that is because in order to spread christianity during that time, writers/scholars of the church need to present it a a manner more susceptible to the views of the people where they are going to teach it.
    Repost ko lang at mali ata dating nug isang post ko. I do said that christianity borrowed pagan views including the origin of xmas celebration.

    I wish i could remember where I read that basically all religion spouse the same thing (basic and most important). Alas my memory can't recall... I'm limited afterall unlike the movie Limitless!
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    Ry dont forget the old testament, before Christ yun..

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    Si Uls kinikilig nanaman eto ang paboritong topic, langis at relihiyon..haha

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    Sayang wala si OB and his thoughts on middle earth and religion...=P

    Everyone here were introduced to religion via schooling/brainwash at an early age. If given a choice, would you want your offspring to find religion by themselves or forcefeed them like yourselves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Sayang wala si OB and his thoughts on middle earth and religion...=P

    Everyone here were introduced to religion via schooling/brainwash at an early age. If given a choice, would you want your offspring to find religion by themselves or forcefeed them like yourselves?
    i went to a catholic school back in elementary and 1st-2nd year h.s. and never will i let my children study in a catholic school, grabe sila mang brainwash don. lahat pinapakielaman pati personal na buhay at mga bagay na ginagawa mo sa labas ng school na dapat di na pakielaman ng school kahit relationship mo papakielaman, if di ka maniwala sa mga sinasabi ng mga preist at madre or di ka sumunod sasabihin masama kang tao. tapos parati sasabihin "if you're bad you'll go to hell", if ganon pala di i'd rather go to hell than heaven atleast at hell walang discrimination lahat ng klase ng tao tatangapin.

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    para sa mga tamad mag google

    earliest recorded history of Sumerian civilization 5000 BC

    that's far earlier than when the first book of the Bible was written

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