What is a good answer to this?

[uls]

DO YOU NEED TO BELIEVE IN GOD TO BE BEHAVE LIKE A DECENT HUMAN BEING?

i posted this Sept 14, 2011

http://tsikot.com/forums/politics-ec...7/index29.html

lagi tanong ng mga believer sa non-believer --

if you dont believe in God, what's to stop you from going around killing people?

DUH!

why would i go around killing people? i'm not a violent person

i dont wanna screw up my life by killing someone

i don't want the stress of hiding from people who will take revenge on me for killing their loved one

i don't wanna get jailed. i don't wanna lose my freedom. i don't wanna ruin my life

what kind of a question is that?

just coz you don't believe in God meron ka na license to kill?

what kind of thinking is that?

IF BELIEVING IN GOD IS THE ONLY THING STOPPING YOU FROM KILLING PEOPLE THEN YOU ARE A VERY DANGEROUS PERSON

what if you lose your faith?

you become a mass murderer?

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and an equally dangerous person is one who kills coz his God told him to

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btw, yung nangyari sa Maguindanao... yung kila Ampatuan...

ummm... atheists be sila?

hinde diba?

im tired of these religion vs.evolution threads but i can't help it

i just gotta reply to the above

somebody pls shut down this thread

[badkuk]

actually, believing in God -- to extremes anyways -- can make you a dangerous person. It can make you blind to your own evils as you believe you are acting on God's will, and you'd be easier to manipulate to "fight for your faith", when their true intention is power.

The irony is that religion is one of the main causes of war in the whole of human history.

Hey, if faith makes you a good person, then i'm all for it. All i'm saying is, wag ka lang pauuto.

sorry OT na

[chua_riwap]

si retz may kasalanan nito eh.......

[scinscin]

omnipotent?



ang diyos di pumupunta sa bar...

[e2romo]

Ancient Aliens, they were advance being who visited us. The race of God is the most powerful among those aliens that visited us, probably the most advanced in the universe.

Any advance technology, beyond the comprehension of the observer, would appear as magic to them.

Sent from my mind using Telepathy 2

[niky]

I don't know whether the idea of Ancient Aliens is more insulting to us humans, who apparently are so lame that we can't achieve civilization on our own, or the Aliens, who are apparently so stupid and backwards that the only engineering trick they can teach humans is how to use a plumb and bob to make straight lines and how to pile stones up from biggest to smallest.

Easy to look at the perfect Pyramids of Giza and think: "That's too perfect for ancient people to have built." without looking at the dozens of other pyramids that aren't nearly as perfectly proportioned, soundly engineered or even completed. Pyramid-making as an art evolved over time, and it didn't happen overnight.



This is just like evolution. If you only look at the final form... humans... you'll think... that's too perfect. But if you look at all the in-between forms (for which we have tons of fossil evidence), you'll note that it took a long time to arrive at the shape we have today.

What I meant is:

If there is no god, then the theory of evolution must be correct. Now if we all came from apes then we will all be wild up to this point of time. Then so, somewhere along the line there was a "selective" intervention who shaped those apes' behaviors and characters which became men. So the Theory about Ancient Aliens must be true as well?

So this will boil down to if you believe that god exist, you also believe that we all came from Adam and Eve. If you believe that there is no god, do you admit that you came from apes?

Uls already answered this, but to note:

The fact that we evolved from proto-lemurs into humans does not contradict what we are and what values we hold. The values I gave are absolute and based in logic.

They are not absolute religious values. Most religions over the millenia have taught their followers that it is okay to kill infidels for the simple act of unbelief. Christianity is unique amongst religions with God-worship* in that it preaches tolerance... "Do unto others" ...even if followers have not always heeded that call (the Inquisition).

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Don't let what I say stop you from being a Christian, however. If you hold "love thy neighbor" as an absolute, sure, I'll support you. But if you start using some obscure Hebraic** Bible passage to justify discriminating against contraception, homo***uals or non-Christians, forget about it.Do us a favor and stop wearing modern clothing, because according to the Bible, that's a sin, too***.

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*Buddhism and Confucianism have similar tenets, but they're not God-centric religions.

**Whatever the Church may claim about gateways to abortion, much of the resistance to the anti-RH bill simply stems from the Catholic tenet against "spilling seed on the ground", which dates back to an Old Testament passage wherein a man was expected to **** his dead brother's wife so she would have a child. Yeah. Great way to defend family values. In the Old Testament, God looked favorably on the killing of infidels in Canaan, also.

***According to Leviticus, wearing clothing of "blended" fibers is prohibited.

[miLes]

The answers to all your questions is in the Bible, just read and ponder.

eh? the bible was written by man, translated into hundreds of versions...again by man. may mga nagiisip pa pala na sinulat ni God ang bible

[nervenllarena]

wala na iniwan na kayo sa ere ni retz

[uls]

wala naman pakialam si retz kung meron o wala magreply sa posts or threads niya

he just posts and moves to the next thread and posts and moves to the next thread...

[slapz]

Theory of Evolution, I wonder what man will become in say another million years? ehehe! May bagong calendaryo na din siguru nun..

[kinyo]

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”

Epicurus – Greek philosopher, BC 341-270

sus pilosopo lang si Epicurus eh

[robot.sonic]

What I meant is:

If there is no god, then the theory of evolution must be correct. Now if we all came from apes then we will all be wild up to this point of time. Then so, somewhere along the line there was a "selective" intervention who shaped those apes' behaviors and characters which became men. So the Theory about Ancient Aliens must be true as well?

So this will boil down to if you believe that god exist, you also believe that we all came from Adam and Eve. If you believe that there is no god, do you admit that you came from apes?

I believe in god and the theory of evolution.

In the beginning there was nothing. And god said let there be light. Boom! Big bang! Tapos na form ang planets. Then nag cool down, yung ibang parts naging lupa. Then nagkaroon ng animals, plants, etc. Evolution. Then came humans.

God (for me) is the energy. Yan lang ang explanation para sa akin na may sense. I was created in his own image. Yes, same energy. Like the insects, planets, everything. God created them too in his own image.

[170kphlang]

may warning din sa Bible about being too carried away with faith

"an unthinking person believes everything, but the prudent one thinks before acting"
Proverbs 14:15

[cardict]

I have come to believe that everything in this world has happened by chance and that what has survived in the history of this world is simply due to natural selection.Now,really! What a seed can do is simply a consequence of natural selection and everything a seed does just started out as an accident? After learning more science,one start to wonder if evolution can explain everything,or even just the little things that we see a round us.Indeed,the probability that chemistry and physics combine in just the right way so that a seed will grow into a tree is so infinitesimally small.And that just one form of life.There are many,many others.So,one starts to question the theory of evolution.But,what if evolution is guided( by a Supreme Being ) ?Now,that would explain a lot of things.Inevitably,one starts thinking about religion and its teachings.Eventually,I will become very religious again?---------Eduardo A. Padlan,research physicist at the US National Institute of HEalth

[donbuggy]

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[yebo]

i believe in the theory of evolution. now does that make me not believe in God? No. the theory only proposes (yes, a mere proposition, since it is a theory but a theory that nonetheless is being proven everyday) that the bible account of how man was made was wrong. the bible, after all, was written by men who presented things as their knowledge at the time allowed them to. if they had known about evolution during the time the book of Genesis was written I am sure the story of creation would be totally different.

i believe in the afterlife, no doubt. my daughter proved it to me. 2 days after my father's death he appeared to her during lunch. she was 3 years old, and 3 year olds don't lie or make up stories. she did not even knew what death meant at the time. when i asked what her lolo looked like she said "nakadamit ng parang sa angels". now what better proof do i need to believe? so if there is an afterlife, there must also be a God who gave us souls. otherwise we are only animals.

[ZENMasterTYL]

Spiritual deafness leads to eternal death...

[badkuk]

re evolution, i like the explanation that a reiligion teacher gave us back in college: ano bang malay ng sinaunang tao sa universe, DNA, mutation, etc.? Siyempre the bible would try to explain things in a way that could be understood/accepted at the time.

e.g. "In the beginning there was darkness, and the Lord said Let there be light"

- this could very well be describing gases forming the sun which brought "light" to the universe/solar system("darkness"). Or it could be referring to the Big Bang.

Here's the thing though, science can explain how things evolved, but it can't explain who started it all. i don't believe in coincidences, and i cannot accept that something this complex would be the result of chance.

i believe in God, though most of the time we don't understand God's ways.

[Boy Bastos]

The answers to all your questions is in the Bible, just read and ponder.

Can't find the answer? Read the bible.

thatisthestupidestreasoningofalltime!

As if naman lahat nandun!

And after a few minutes sure ako may violent reaction.

[Boy Bastos]

I believe in god and the theory of evolution.

In the beginning there was nothing. And god said let there be light. Boom! Big bang! Tapos na form ang planets. Then nag cool down, yung ibang parts naging lupa. Then nagkaroon ng animals, plants, etc. Evolution. Then came humans.

God (for me) is the energy. Yan lang ang explanation para sa akin na may sense. I was created in his own image. Yes, same energy. Like the insects, planets, everything. God created them too in his own image.

Got any evidence for this theory of yours? Baka nakasulat lang yan sa all-knowing-book-of-all-time.