Virginia Tech Massacre

[GasJunkie]

what??? what?!?! what!!!




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edit :heart: at M54

[oldblue]

so it's a classic case of mean girls/cool guys vs. geeks pala

may iniwan pala sya video denouncing the "rich brats" before he executed his plan

read from the phil. inquirer friday issue

[the_wildthing]

The guy has issues.

This has no relation to US government policy, gun control, rich kids, revenge. There is no justification for what he did.

He needed help. He just didn't get it.

I agree with theveed. Where are the parents? Did they even recognize that their son needed help?

[ogpro]

Here's another take on things, well reasoned and makes perfect sense. Worth the read:

[SIZE=2]"Signs of Intelligence?"

http://www.abcradio.com/blog.asp?id=15663

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posted by Fred Dalton Thompson on 4/19/2007 6:31:28 PM

Signs of Intelligence?


One of the things that's got to be going through a lot of peoples' minds now is how one man with two handguns, that he had to reload time and time again, could go from classroom to classroom on the Virginia Tech campus without being stopped. Much of the answer can be found in policies put in place by the university itself.

Virginia, like 39 other states, allows citizens with training and legal permits to carry concealed weapons. That means that Virginians regularly sit in movie theaters and eat in restaurants among armed citizens. They walk, joke and rub shoulders everyday with people who responsibly carry firearms -- and are far safer than they would be in San Francisco, Oakland, Detroit, Chicago, New York City, or Washington, D.C., where such permits are difficult or impossible to obtain.

The statistics are clear. Communities that recognize and grant Second Amendment rights to responsible adults have a significantly lower incidence of violent crime than those that do not. More to the point, incarcerated criminals tell criminologists that they consider local gun laws when they decide what sort of crime they will commit, and where they will do so.

Still, there are a lot of people who are just offended by the notion that people can carry guns around. They view everybody, or at least many of us, as potential murderers prevented only by the lack of a convenient weapon. Virginia Tech administrators overrode Virginia state law and threatened to expel or fire anybody who brings a weapon onto campus.

In recent years, however, armed Americans -- not on-duty police officers -- have successfully prevented a number of attempted mass murders. Evidence from Israel, where many teachers have weapons and have stopped serious terror attacks, has been documented. Supporting, though contrary, evidence from Great Britain, where strict gun controls have led to violent crime rates far higher than ours, is also common knowledge.

So Virginians asked their legislators to change the university's "concealed carry" policy to exempt people 21 years of age or older who have passed background checks and taken training classes. The university, however, lobbied against that bill, and a top administrator subsequently praised the legislature for blocking the measure.

The logic behind this attitude baffles me, but I suspect it has to do with a basic difference in worldviews. Some people think that power should exist only at the top, and everybody else should rely on "the authorities" for protection.

Despite such attitudes, average Americans have always made up the front line against crime. Through programs like Neighborhood Watch and Amber Alert, we are stopping and catching criminals daily. Normal people tackled "shoe bomber" Richard Reid as he was trying to blow up an airliner. It was a truck driver who found the D.C. snipers. Statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that civilians use firearms to prevent at least a half million crimes annually.

When people capable of performing acts of heroism are discouraged or denied the opportunity, our society is all the poorer. And from the selfless examples of the passengers on Flight 93 on 9/11 to Virginia Tech professor Liviu Librescu, a Holocaust survivor who sacrificed himself to save his students earlier this week, we know what extraordinary acts of heroism ordinary citizens are capable of.

Many other universities have been swayed by an anti-gun, anti-self defense ideology. I respect their right to hold those views, but I challenge their decision to deny Americans the right to protect themselves on their campuses -- and then proudly advertise that fact to any and all.

Whenever I've seen one of those "Gun-free Zone" signs, especially outside of a school filled with our youngest and most vulnerable citizens, I've always wondered exactly who these signs are directed at. Obviously, they don't mean much to the sort of man who murdered 32 people just a few days ago.
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[m_ron]

Only in the fuc$ing land of USA.

[creepy]

Here's another take on things, well reasoned and makes perfect sense. Worth the read:

Worth the read? You're kidding right? Hahaha.

It's simply a rationalization to allow people to carry guns.

"Signs of Intelligence?" --- sorry, none in that article.

[StraightSix]

Here's another take on things, well reasoned and makes perfect sense. Worth the read:

[SIZE=2]In recent years, however, armed Americans -- not on-duty police officers -- have successfully prevented a number of attempted mass murders. Evidence from Israel, where many teachers have weapons and have stopped serious terror attacks, has been documented. Supporting, though contrary, evidence from Great Britain, where strict gun controls have led to violent crime rates far higher than ours, is also common knowledge.[/SIZE]

According to the 2004-2005 figures from the Home Office, there were 73 homicides in the whole of England and Wales. That's 5 more from the previous year. We're living in a war zone! The Scots shouldn't be faring any better, and the folks in Northern irelend shouldn't have stopped shooting at each other.

The jokers at the Home Office should also include toy guns with flashing lights, squirt guns and the likes in its statistics ... since a big chunk of the gun crimes include airguns, ball-bearing, immitation, and for god's sake, even paintball guns. Pathetic, that they have to include these just to push the figures up.

Yessir ... I feel a lot safer walking the streets of America.

And BTW, the UK government should stop discriminating against handguns. Why should owners of rifles keep theirs?

[GasJunkie]

cnn is teh devil didn't you know???



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